Great observation about Romo

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Oh come on sure there are. I like Romo, I think he's a very good QB, but there are certainly points that can be made against him, namely big blunders of his that simply can't be denied, but I also believe that the arguments for him outweigh those against him.

I didn't say he doesn't make mistakes. I said there aren't valid arguments for not liking him as an NFL QB.
 

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Not exactly insightful stuff.

"When Ogletree was the only WR on the field in that Washington game; if Romo turns that drive into a TD then a lot of criticism would likely go away".
 

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Are we just supposed to overlook those three interceptions against the Commanders?Are we to ignore the fact he looked petrified and in over his head for most of the game?

How about the miles overthrow?

How about the Detroit game?

How about the first half of last season?

I could go on...

I guess it's a lot easier to overlook all the good games he's had, I mean he's ticked us all off at some point but at the same time he's one of the best QBs in the league.
 

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You forgot some:
Backwards hat
Cabo trip
Dating celebs
Being good at golf

:)

He should be banished for playing golf! How dare he!!! Oh and now he has a 2nd kid coming? Yeah we know where his priorities are! What a shame! Should be football all day all night lunch etc...pffft Golf?? Really dude? Smh


Please hope people understand I'm not being serious. I am making fun of a few posters who were hard lined about the golf it was stupid.
 

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I didn't say he doesn't make mistakes. I said there aren't valid arguments for not liking him as an NFL QB.

Well some people view those crucial mistakes as the reason why they don't want him as our QB. I am not one of those people, but his big game mistakes are why many people (many cowboys fans included) don't like him as our QB and there's no debating that they would have examples to back up their opinion. Like I said, I would disagree with them, but Romo has given the haters lots of ammunition. The point of my original post though is that this whole debate is irrelevant because he's the best option we have at this point so the Romo haters might as well live with it and talk about something else.
 

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Well some people view those crucial mistakes as the reason why they don't want him as our QB. I am not one of those people, but his big game mistakes are why many people (many cowboys fans included) don't like him as our QB and there's no debating that they would have examples to back up their opinion. Like I said, I would disagree with them, but Romo has given the haters lots of ammunition. The point of my original post though is that this whole debate is irrelevant because he's the best option we have at this point so the Romo haters might as well live with it and talk about something else.

Every QB gives fans ammunition for complaining. But all anyone has to do is look at his TD:INT ratio, his splits, and his performances in the last few minutes of halves, and in games decided by 7 points or less.

Then they should look at the performance of the Cowboys pass defense in recent years under Romo, and then they have their answer.

Granted, some aren't going to accept what the problem really is, but it doesn't mean that side of the debate has a valid argument.
 

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I know Spagnola's a homer, but he has great insight on Romo and his value to the team. Starts at the 16:30 mark.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim...ame-Show/a6ee9da9-77de-4992-a195-ede114847836

Spagnola has no credibility because he is a homer. He was advocating Troy Aikman in his final year with the team. He was doing then what he is doing now. He was critical of the fans who stated Aikman was past his prime and needed to be cut or traded in favor of a new QB. He blamed the offensive line and said Aikman was fine. A year later, Aikman was out of the league and no team was willing to sign him as their starter. Aikman then "chose" to retire.

Spagnola was wrong then as he is wrong now. There are many journalists who are critical of Tony Romo. They admire his athleticism but also state he is not at the level of the elite QB's in the league. Sure, do they blame Romo for all of the Cowboys problems? No! But are they like Spagnola and the homers on this forum who act like Romo is without fault and everything is to be blamed on the OL and lack of a running game, No!

I think Romo is a great athlete in general. I think he is very skilled and could play multiple sports well. However, he lacks many physical tools to play QB in the NFL well. He lacks height. He lacks arm strength. And he lacks the poise and intelligence to take what the defense gives him and forces bad plays. Sure, he makes plays out of nothing but in the playoffs, he has cost the team severely with his bad decision making. And decision making is half of what being a great QB is all about. If you are judging Romo as a fantasy QB, that's an entirely different topic.
 

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Well some people view those crucial mistakes as the reason why they don't want him as our QB. I am not one of those people, but his big game mistakes are why many people (many cowboys fans included) don't like him as our QB and there's no debating that they would have examples to back up their opinion. Like I said, I would disagree with them, but Romo has given the haters lots of ammunition. The point of my original post though is that this whole debate is irrelevant because he's the best option we have at this point so the Romo haters might as well live with it and talk about something else.

It's not just his decision making ability that is weak. It's also his physical tools. Romo lacks the stature and arm strength to stand in the pocket during pressure and complete tight throws over the middle or the sideline. He has to scramble outside the pocket to make a lot of those throws. When defenses keep Romo in the pocket, that is when you see a lot of his mistakes occur. I'm tired of Romo and the Parcells legacy. We need to start over and draft a prototypical first round QB(Tom Brady/Peyton Manning/Matt Ryan/Andrew Luck). Those types of QB's are obviously not available every draft but when one does become available, Jerry should seriously consider trading up to grab one.
 

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I've come to realize that some members here watch Cowboys games while hoping Tony screws up so they can log on here and say, "I told you so!"

I've come to realize that most members defend Romo because they like him on a personal level. He is a likable guy and thus you have all of his buddies out there reaching to defend him. I'm a fan of the team first. I'm a Cowboy fan not a Jaguars fan. A true Cowboy fans thinks championships and are not content with mediocrity and being bounced in the first round of the playoffs because your QB forced bad plays.

You guys just look at stats. I look at who can realistically win a Superbowl for us. Even with a better OL and running game, I still don't think Romo can help this team win a Superbowl. He lacks the decision making ability and ability to stand in the pocket and complete tight throws during crunch time. He is the type of guy who will cost this team in a high pressure situation. How many more failed seasons will it take because the homers realize he is not the answer? 3? 4? 5 more seasons? How long?
 

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Spagnola has no credibility because he is a homer. He was advocating Troy Aikman in his final year with the team. He was doing then what he is doing now. He was critical of the fans who stated Aikman was past his prime and needed to be cut or traded in favor of a new QB. He blamed the offensive line and said Aikman was fine. A year later, Aikman was out of the league and no team was willing to sign him as their starter. Aikman then "chose" to retire.

Spagnola was wrong then as he is wrong now. There are many journalists who are critical of Tony Romo. They admire his athleticism but also state he is not at the level of the elite QB's in the league. Sure, do they blame Romo for all of the Cowboys problems? No! But are they like Spagnola and the homers on this forum who act like Romo is without fault and everything is to be blamed on the OL and lack of a running game, No!

I think Romo is a great athlete in general. I think he is very skilled and could play multiple sports well. However, he lacks many physical tools to play QB in the NFL well. He lacks height. He lacks arm strength. And he lacks the poise and intelligence to take what the defense gives him and forces bad plays. Sure, he makes plays out of nothing but in the playoffs, he has cost the team severely with his bad decision making. And decision making is half of what being a great QB is all about. If you are judging Romo as a fantasy QB, that's an entirely different topic.

Like Spagnola said, those people who critisize Romo don't know what they're talking about. He does have an awful offensive line and has no running game.
 

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It's not just his decision making ability that is weak. It's also his physical tools. Romo lacks the stature and arm strength to stand in the pocket during pressure and complete tight throws over the middle or the sideline. He has to scramble outside the pocket to make a lot of those throws. When defenses keep Romo in the pocket, that is when you see a lot of his mistakes occur. I'm tired of Romo and the Parcells legacy. We need to start over and draft a prototypical first round QB(Tom Brady/Peyton Manning/Matt Ryan/Andrew Luck). Those types of QB's are obviously not available every draft but when one does become available, Jerry should seriously consider trading up to grab one.

All 3 of the posts you just wrote are just ridiculous. Romo is what 6'3 and he isn't tall enough? Romo has one of the quickest releases in the NFL. What do you mean he lacks arm strength? He can make any throw in the NFL and has never struggled with any pass. What's amazing about Romo is he doesn't get arm fatigue like other QB's. What is this nonsense about him not being a good pocket passer? It's not like the guy has been able to step up in the pocket and deliver the ball he has always had to avoid a rusher or 3 and he always has his eyes down field to find an open player. It has been widely stated that Romo has a high football IQ so he isn't dumb. Sorry but lets not act like Romo has shown he is slowing down because he hasn't. Your posts just smell of trolling. I would suggest not watching the Cowboys for the next 2-3 years
 

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I'm totally geared up for a Romo debate, unlike usually, I usually hate them just because the answers seem so cut clear, black and white that the falls are NOT his fault, but I've been arguing with my Giants fan buddy whos' trying to defend Eli over Romo, and just to give you a taste of how these arguments go, he said the Giants are a clear cut favorite to win the East because every other team is full of question marks, and Romo doesn't care now because he got paid.

So about Romo, I believe, that equipped with the teams Brees. Peyton, Eli, Ben, etc. have. he'd be a multiple Super Bowl winning QB at this point. It's almost comical, the amount of things that keep us from winning that are just fluke, bad luck things, completely unrelated to Romo, whether it be a drop on a caught pass that could have sealed us a playoff victory, Romo playing in a meaningless game, just to almost break his hand for a win or go home game the next week, playing a better part of his career with defenses full of has beens, that were huffing air by the third quarter. Two throws to that people are seemingly loving to talk about in this thread: the 2011 "overthrow" to Miles where he basically blew out his hammy running that ball out, and the INT vs. the Jets to start the year, where Dez' quad gave out on him.

Show me another quarterback that faces these kind of things, and I'll show you the Blaine Gabberts', Alex Smith's, and Ryan Fitzpatrick's of the NFL; in other words, quarterbacks that suck and and take their teams to losing records year in and year out. Meanwhile, Romo, playing with teams that either can;t protect leads, or can't protect him, takes these aforementioned teams to 8-8 records, and throws for over 3,000 yards and 30+ TDs on the way to doing so.
 

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Every QB gives fans ammunition for complaining. But all anyone has to do is look at his TD:INT ratio, his splits, and his performances in the last few minutes of halves, and in games decided by 7 points or less.

Then they should look at the performance of the Cowboys pass defense in recent years under Romo, and then they have their answer.

Granted, some aren't going to accept what the problem really is, but it doesn't mean that side of the debate has a valid argument.

I wouldn't say his TD/INT ratio is partucularly impressive.

Donovan McNabb has a better ratio.. as do several of the elite QB's in the league. Tony's isn't bad either.. but not elite.
 

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Like Spagnola said, those people who critisize Romo don't know what they're talking about. He does have an awful offensive line and has no running game.

Hopefully the word "did" will be more applicable after seeing the results this year.
 

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I've come to realize that most members defend Romo because they like him on a personal level. He is a likable guy and thus you have all of his buddies out there reaching to defend him. I'm a fan of the team first. I'm a Cowboy fan not a Jaguars fan. A true Cowboy fans thinks championships and are not content with mediocrity and being bounced in the first round of the playoffs because your QB forced bad plays.

You guys just look at stats. I look at who can realistically win a Superbowl for us. Even with a better OL and running game, I still don't think Romo can help this team win a Superbowl. He lacks the decision making ability and ability to stand in the pocket and complete tight throws during crunch time. He is the type of guy who will cost this team in a high pressure situation. How many more failed seasons will it take because the homers realize he is not the answer? 3? 4? 5 more seasons? How long?

I think it is important to note that because only one team can win the Super Bowl every year, 31 out of 32 predictions of failure are going to be generally accurate, regardless what the foundation of the argument for failure might be.
 

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Tony stats during the preseaon 26 for 36 for 367 yards a 72.2 completion rate with 2 td's and no picks. A 123.3 rating. May have been more td's if Dunbar and Bryant hadn't fumbled in the Arizona game. I also heard the announcers the other night say that Tony has the highest passer rating on opening day in the history on the NFL. We might just beat them pesky Giants at home for a change. Can't wait to see what pans out this year. If this oline holds up we are poised to make some noise this year.
 

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Please do.

Spagnola has no credibility because he is a homer. He was advocating Troy Aikman in his final year with the team. He was doing then what he is doing now. He was critical of the fans who stated Aikman was past his prime and needed to be cut or traded in favor of a new QB. He blamed the offensive line and said Aikman was fine. A year later, Aikman was out of the league and no team was willing to sign him as their starter. Aikman then "chose" to retire.

Spagnola was wrong then as he is wrong now. There are many journalists who are critical of Tony Romo. They admire his athleticism but also state he is not at the level of the elite QB's in the league. Sure, do they blame Romo for all of the Cowboys problems? No! But are they like Spagnola and the homers on this forum who act like Romo is without fault and everything is to be blamed on the OL and lack of a running game, No!

I think Romo is a great athlete in general. I think he is very skilled and could play multiple sports well. However, he lacks many physical tools to play QB in the NFL well. He lacks height. He lacks arm strength. And he lacks the poise and intelligence to take what the defense gives him and forces bad plays. Sure, he makes plays out of nothing but in the playoffs, he has cost the team severely with his bad decision making. And decision making is half of what being a great QB is all about. If you are judging Romo as a fantasy QB, that's an entirely different topic.

Great post

Another aikman excuse is he was forced to retire because of his back. Spagnola and Sham use that excuse all the time.
 
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