Greedy NFL

[Bob Sacamano]

the NFL is putting a stop to churches hosting Super Bowl parties on 5', big-screen TVs, because it violates their copyright law

but it's perfectly legal to do it in bars, because they're exempt to the rule

I know a rule is a rule, but jeez, c'mon now, that's just being greedy, they're not profiting in any way from this, they are just trying to draw congregationists

 

[superpunk]

Separation of church and gridiron.

It's in the bible.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

the NFL is putting a stop to churches hosting Super Bowl parties on 5', big-screen TVs, because it violates their copyright law

but it's perfectly legal to do it in bars, because they're exempt to the rule

I know a rule is a rule, but jeez, c'mon now, that's just being greedy, they're not profiting in any way from this, they are just trying to draw congregationists

How do you think churches make money?

I guarantee you the offering plate goes around at those functions.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How do you think churches make money?

I guarantee you the offering plate goes around at those functions.

I've been to a few bible, study groups, in a few different churches, and not in any one of them did they pass a collection plate around, or at luncheons

these situations, like Super Bowl parties, are informal ones, the most they ever do is open and close in prayer

 

[SultanOfSix]

the NFL is putting a stop to churches hosting Super Bowl parties on 5', big-screen TVs, because it violates their copyright law

but it's perfectly legal to do it in bars, because they're exempt to the rule

I know a rule is a rule, but jeez, c'mon now, that's just being greedy, they're not profiting in any way from this, they are just trying to draw congregationists

How does it violate their copyright law?

 

[firehawk350]

I would rethink that... I went to one last year and it's pretty much just like any other super bowl party, just the social group is centered around church instead of work, or a club or something. They used the projector we use for the sermons and just hooked up cable to it and everybody brought some different snacks. I don't see what the big deal is honestly...

 

[superpunk]

How does it violate their copyright law?

I guess it would apply to that whole "Any rebroadcast without...blah blah blah" maybe?

 

[theogt]

Separation of church and gridiron.

It's in the bible.

As a child, I attended a church that would cancel services on Super Bowl Sunday.

 

[windward]

I've been to a few bible, study groups, in a few different churches, and not in any one of them did they pass a collection plate around, or at luncheons

these situations, like Super Bowl parties, are informal ones, the most they ever do is open and close in prayer

Exactly. If there is no revenue coming out of those types of parties then I don't really see the problem. What's the difference between that and me inviting a bunch of guys over to watch the game?

 

[SultanOfSix]

I guess it would apply to that whole "Any rebroadcast without...blah blah blah" maybe?

I don't understand. It's not a rebroadcast. It's a live showing, except in a church.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How does it violate their copyright law?

"intended for the private use of our audience" *idk the whole quote off the top of my head* but you hear it during every telecast of an NFL game

broadcasting the game to a large group of people is somehow not private viewing according to them, I guess, it supposedly affects their advertising, costing them money, so they only want people to view games on regularly-sized televisions, basically just limiting the viewing to one household, instead of potentially hundreds of people, unless it's in a bar

which is greedy, since the NFl is a multi-billion dollar industry

 

[windward]

I guess it would apply to that whole "Any rebroadcast without...blah blah blah" maybe?

But it's not really a rebroadcast but rather a live showing in public.

 

[superpunk]

I don't understand. It's not a rebroadcast. It's a live showing, except in a church.

I dunno. The church is effectively "selling itself", or advertising, by saying "Hey, look how cool we are - we're hip to the NFL's...come to our services and donate us monies folks!" Would be like a movie theater doing it, I think. I think the NFL would have a problem with both.

 

[windward]

"intended for the private use of our audience" *idk the whole quote off the top of my head* but you hear it during every telecast of an NFL game

broadcasting the game to numerous people is considered public airing according to them, I guess, it supposedly affects their advertising, costing them money, so they only want people to view games on regularly-sized televisions, unless it's in a bar

I remember during the 1996 season, Windward Mall would show the Monday Night Football games on a big screen in the middle of the mall. That was the only season they did it, so maybe they were given a cease-and-desist letter from the league.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

As a child, I attended a church that would cancel services on Super Bowl Sunday.

:laugh2: did they all end up drinking poison so that they could ride a comet into heaven?

 

[windward]

I dunno. The church is effectively "selling itself", or advertising, by saying "Hey, look how cool we are - we're hip to the NFL's...come to our services and donate us monies folks!" Would be like a movie theater doing it, I think. I think the NFL would have a problem with both.

But where would the illegality of it exist if it were billed as a "free, family fun day" or something of the sort?

A question for the attorneys of the forum.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I remember during the 1996 season, Windward Mall would show the Monday Night Football games on a big screen in the middle of the mall. That was the only season they did it, so maybe they were given a cease-and-desist letter from the league.

probably, ah, 96, I was in Hawaii then

I remember on the base housing, they used to do movies, by using a projector flashing on the community center wall

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But where would the illegality of it exist if it were billed as a "free, family fun day" or something of the sort?

A question for the REAL attorneys of the forum. That doesn't mean you peplaw06

I guess the illegality of it is that a public showing is not private viewing, as in a household

 

[theogt]

:laugh2: did they all end up drinking poison so that they could ride a comet into heaven?

No, but I'm sure most of the did quite a bit of drinking that Sunday.

 

[windward]

I guess the illegality of it is that a public showing is not private viewing, as in a household

I suppose.