Greg Cosell's Film review of Dak 11/22

[Macnalty]

He is a Philly guy and it hurts like hell for him to give any compliments to the Cowboys. He does have a great record at evaluating players. Carson Wentz was his guy and I think he realizes that Dak in a redraft probably should of been the Number 1 pick of 2016.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/greg-c...to-dak-prescotts-rookie-season-191649806.html

 

[ThreeandOut]

He seems to suggest that Dak is Trevor Siemian but surrounded by more talent. Dak is much better than Siemian.

 

[Sarge]

Dak ended up being a steal.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Meh, I thought it was pretty even-handed analysis. Though, Cossell does seem to be implying the Cowboys are running a dumbed down offense for Dak which is simply....dumb.

 

[marchetta]

Meh, I thought it was pretty even-handed analysis. Though, Cossell does seem to be implying the Cowboys are running a dumbed down offense for Dak which is simply....dumb.

Exactly. If Dallas were running a simplified scheme, our opponents would've figured it out several games ago and countered to stop it. The fact that opponents still can't consistently stop Dallas shows that their O isn't so simple. We have good enough personnel that we don't have to run trick plays to win, and we have a smart/disciplined QB that sees the field well and rarely makes mistakes. That's our winning formula. A team that can execute the play, and avoid mistakes will win a lot of games. That's the Patriot formula, and now it's our formula as well.

PS
I'm writing this as Aretha Franklin just brought down the house with her rendition of The National Anthem. WOW!

 

[xwalker]

Exactly. If Dallas were running a simplified scheme, our opponents would've figured it out several games ago and countered to stop it. The fact that opponents still can't consistently stop Dallas shows that their O isn't so simple. We have good enough personnel that we don't have to run trick plays to win, and we have a smart/disciplined QB that sees the field well and rarely makes mistakes. That's our winning formula. A team that can execute the play, and avoid mistakes will win a lot of games. That's the Patriot formula, and now it's our formula as well.

PS
I'm writing this as Aretha Franklin just brought down the house with her rendition of The National Anthem. WOW!

The Aikman Cowboys had a simple offense with a limited number of plays. On the path to the 95 Super Bowl, Larry Allen would often tell defenders that the play was going to be a run right behind him but they still couldn't stop it.

 

[Risen Star]

He seems to suggest that Dak is Trevor Siemian but surrounded by more talent. Dak is much better than Siemian.

Yeah that's what I got out of it too.

Mostly what I see from Prescott is he is executing a basic, run-first offense that’s not particularly multiple in regards to personnel and formations. And he’s executing that basic offense with great efficiency. He’s an orchestrator and a distributor. What the Cowboys ask Prescott to do isn’t that much different than what the Denver Broncos ask of Trevor Siemian. Prescott, however, has far more talented offensive players around him – particularly a fantastic offensive line and running back Ezekiel Elliott – but both Prescott and Siemian are complementary pieces to their offenses.

He's a bus driver, is what he's saying. And that's okay. For now. He's a rookie. Can he be more? If he can't then he's not a franchise QB.

 

[marchetta]

The Aikman Cowboys had a simple offense with a limited number of plays. On the path to the 95 Super Bowl, Larry Allen would often tell defenders that the play was going to be a run right behind him but they still couldn't stop it.

Yep. I remember JJ saying that he spoke to Marty Schottenheimer recently, and Marty told him that their O (in the 90's) was so simple that every team knew when they were going to run/pass. But, their execution was so perfect, that they still couldn't stop them.

 

[reddyuta]

People think we have a dumbed down offense because Dak only throws to open guys and rarely takes risks like Romo.

 

[marchetta]

People think we have a dumbed down offense because Dak only throws to open guys and rarely takes risks like Romo.

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[xwalker]

Yep. I remember JJ saying that he spoke to Marty Schottenheimer recently, and Marty told him that their O (in the 90's) was so simple that every team knew when they were going to run/pass. But, their execution was so perfect, that they still couldn't stop them.

When a new receiver would join the team, Aikman would ask him if he liked catching the ball near the upper part of his Jersey number or the lower part. That is how precise that offense operated.

 

[Doomsday]

Meh, I thought it was pretty even-handed analysis. Though, Cossell does seem to be implying the Cowboys are running a dumbed down offense for Dak which is simply....dumb.

Even if they are, which I don't believe, with the success they are having why run anything else? To me saying an offense is dumbed down is moronic.

If the contest is to have the most sophisticated offense than great, but it is not, it is to win the game. Clearly defenses are having no success slowing Dak down the last 11 weeks.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He's a bus driver, is what he's saying. And that's okay. For now. He's a rookie. Can he be more? If he can't then he's not a franchise QB.

How many non-franchise QB's lead their team to a 10-1 record as a rook?

 

[Nova]

The Aikman Cowboys had a simple offense with a limited number of plays. On the path to the 95 Super Bowl, Larry Allen would often tell defenders that the play was going to be a run right behind him but they still couldn't stop it.

LA was the man.

Can you imagine LA on this line?

So much pain for the other guys.

 

[RS12]

Trevor Matich ESPN's college studio analyst who I think is the best in the business talked about Dak this AM. He said Dak's reads were outstanding. He said in college Dak is is asked to go through the progressions as quickly as possible to find the open man. In the NFL you are asked asked to find the mismatches and he was amazed at how Dak was consistently able to find the mismatches. In his mind Dak has been able to make huge leap from what he was asked to do at MSU in just one year.

 

[bayeslife]

How many non-franchise QB's lead their team to a 10-1 record as a rook?

Hes running out of criticisms. About the only thing Dak did wrong was miss Dez once and overthrew Butler.

You can certainly be skeptical about where he ranks among the top QBs in the league but he has shown more than enough he is no game manager. He's been making big boy NFL throws since Week 3

 

[slick325]

Yeah that's what I got out of it too.

Mostly what I see from Prescott is he is executing a basic, run-first offense that’s not particularly multiple in regards to personnel and formations. And he’s executing that basic offense with great efficiency. He’s an orchestrator and a distributor. What the Cowboys ask Prescott to do isn’t that much different than what the Denver Broncos ask of Trevor Siemian. Prescott, however, has far more talented offensive players around him – particularly a fantastic offensive line and running back Ezekiel Elliott – but both Prescott and Siemian are complementary pieces to their offenses.

He's a bus driver, is what he's saying. And that's okay. For now. He's a rookie. Can he be more? If he can't then he's not a franchise QB.

I'm inclined to agree with his assessment and your statement at the end as well Risen.

Hopefully Prescott stays hot this season and playoffs and continues to develop into a player that can carry lesser talent. Like what franchise QBs have to do at times.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

The Aikman Cowboys had a simple offense with a limited number of plays. On the path to the 95 Super Bowl, Larry Allen would often tell defenders that the play was going to be a run right behind him but they still couldn't stop it.

As the Boer scout said to his British officers concerning Zulu war tactics in the 1870s: "Jolly simple but deadly effective."

 

[jobberone]

Zak IS running a simpler version of this offense. In particular he's not using the timing offense but waiting for receivers to come open. But he's so efficient playing it particularly having time to sit back there, that's ok. At least it's been so far. We haven't played a more sophisticated and efficient defense that can force him into turnovers AND he's not forcing the ball. He has the luxury of extending plays and looking for an open man or running the ball.

He's not even in the same universe as a P Manning or even a T Romo when it comes to running a more sophisticated offense. But he's doing the most important thing....so far......winning.

He's surrounded by the right coaching scheme and has that OL with good to great WRs and that compliments his game. He's in the right place at the right time with the necessary tools to win. That's all you can ask or want.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Meh, I thought it was pretty even-handed analysis. Though, Cossell does seem to be implying the Cowboys are running a dumbed down offense for Dak which is simply....dumb.

You don't get to 10-1 with a dumb downed offense in the NFL, it's impossible. If you could, everyone would be doing it. I would guess that most if not all OC's would rather not have a playbook that's as thick as the US tax code.