Greg Hardy: "If Cowboys Offer, I'd Love to Stay Here"

[big dog cowboy]

Please. What Hardy really is saying is, "If the Cowboys offer (more money than anybody else), I'd love to stay here."

Sounds like any typical free agent.

 

[ConstantReboot]

That's a phenomenally ignorant statement. Many criminal courts have automatic appeals for all sorts of reasons for those found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Of course they do. Did I say they don't?

I said if Hardy was guilty "beyond reasonable doubt" there would have been enough evidence to convict him of a crime and land him in jail. If he was really guilty where are the major injuries that Holder sustained during the incident? Why was it that Hardy was the one who called 911 and not Holder? Yes I saw those pictures. Those weren't from Hardy. Its from his friend who tried to hold her down because she was high on coke. All of this was evidence thrown out by a judge who didn't even want to hear Hardy's side of the story. Therefore it was legal for Hardy to seek an appeal - not because he can.

What I find phenomenally ignorant is that you seem to ignore that it was the DA who dismissed this case due to lack of evidence. Hardy didn't have to defend himself. There was no hard evidence to convict. Therefore, it amazes me why you keep egging on about a bench trial which is nothing more than moot at this point.

 

[Rogah]

The man has a clean record.

So does Ray Rice.

 

[Bullflop]

The Greg Hardy situation could easily play out with his staying or departing, depending largely upon what another team is willing to part with, as compared to what the Cowboys might offer. To be totally honest, I could readily adjust to whatever happens in that respect. On one hand, he prefers to be late for meetings and gets away with it, much to the chagrin of some of his teammates.

OTOH, his performance on the field might be vastly improved upon with a full offseason of TC and workouts to his advantage. It seems to me that the good and bad tend to cancel each other out to a great extent. I'd neither be surprised nor disappointed to see him either stay or leave. Candidly, I'm not altogether convinced that the disruption he causes is worth his presence on the team.

 

[Alexander]

So does Ray Rice.

Ray Rice was not producing at a high level when he had his issue though.

There have been a rash of RB injuries in KC, Houston and Pittsburgh and he did not even get a try out. I do not have any doubt that if he were playing at a higher level two years ago, he would get work.

 

[Rogah]

Ray Rice was not producing at a high level when he had his issue though.

There have been a rash of RB injuries in KC, Houston and Pittsburgh and he did not even get a try out. I do not have any doubt that if he were playing at a higher level two years ago, he would get work.

Oh I agree that Rice was playing very poorly the season prior to when he knocked his then-girlfriend out cold, but my point was more the idea that just because someone has a clean record, it doesn't really mean that they're innocent.

 

[Doomsday101]

Oh I agree that Rice was playing very poorly the season prior to when he knocked his then-girlfriend out cold, but my point was more the idea that just because someone has a clean record, it doesn't really mean that they're innocent.

True, the woman vanishes after an agreement on the civil case was settled out of court. Not claiming the woman as a saint but does not mean the events that happened that night were untrue.

 

[Nightman]

So does Ray Rice.

As he should. He was a first time offender that did everything the court asked of him.

It has nothing to do Hardy.

Ask the Duke lacrosse players, the UVA frat boys or Steve Avery about bogus charges.

 

[Nightman]

True, the woman vanishes after an agreement on the civil case was settled out of court. Not claiming the woman as a saint but does not mean the events that happened that night were untrue.

So he breaks up with her, she makes up a few lies, throws herself around, threatens to kill herself and eventually gets paid. That sounds like a woman with problems.

Funny he was never in trouble before or since dating her.

 

[Doomsday101]

So he breaks up with her, she makes up a few lies, throws herself around, threatens to kill herself and eventually gets paid. That sounds like a woman with problems.

Funny he was never in trouble before or since dating her.

I guess that is one story and OJ Simpson was just as innocent. Beating a rap in court does not make you innocent of wrong doing.

 

[Nightman]

I guess that is one story and OJ Simpson was just as innocent. Beating a rap in court does not make you innocent of wrong doing.

actually it does

according to you and Rogah anyone accused, arrested, arraigned or held over for trial after a preliminary hearing is guilty.

 

[Doomsday101]

actually it does

In the eyes of the court. Getting a great lawyer does and getting off does not make you innocent only means you beat the system. Paying this woman off? for what he did nothing wrong correct. The man is garbage but hey he can play football thus he gets a free pass by fans. What ever no wonder this team looks like a circus.

 

[Nightman]

In the eyes of the court. Getting a great lawyer does and getting off does not make you innocent only means you beat the system. Paying this woman off? for what he did nothing wrong correct. The man is garbage but hey he can play football thus he gets a free pass by fans. What ever no wonder this team looks like a circus.

he was charged with a misdemeanor that carried a suspended sentence, no jail time and 18 months probation.

then all charges were dropped because the witness was unreliable and the DA hid key evidence

if you are comfortable calling human garbage then that is one you, but you have no right to judge my opinions if you choose to ignore the evidence

 

[Doomsday101]

he was charged with a misdemeanor that carried a suspended sentence, no jail time and 18 months probation.

then all charges were dropped because the witness was unreliable and the DA hid key evidence

if you are comfortable calling human garbage then that is one you, but you have no right to judge my opinions if you choose to ignore the evidence

Unreliable she did not show, she was paid off. You have a right to defend him all you want it is pretty typical, guy can play football

 

[superonyx]

I wondered how this thread could go on as long as it has....you guys are funny.

I think all this thread needs is a few Bill Cosby references now and it will be complete.

 

[Nightman]

Unreliable she did not show, she was paid off. You have a right to defend him all you want it is pretty typical, guy can play football

The settlement story is BS from the DA. They hid key exculpatory evidence and when they were caught, mere days before the jury was set to begin, they immediately dropped all charges. They came up with the settlement angle to hide their malfeasance.

 

[Doomsday101]

The settlement story is BS from the DA. They hid key exculpatory evidence and when they were caught, mere days before the jury was set to begin, they immediately dropped all charges. They came up with the settlement angle to hide their malfeasance.

Just as her throwing herself is a BS story right. Save it, I don't worship players

 

[Nightman]

I wondered how this thread could go on as long as it has....you guys are funny.

I think all this thread needs is a few Bill Cosby references now and it will be complete.

I can't do anything about it when people lie about Hardy on TV but on my message board I don't have to tolerate it.

 

[Rogah]

actually it does

according to you and Rogah anyone accused, arrested, arraigned or held over for trial after a preliminary hearing is guilty.

You seem woefully unaware of the inconvenient fact that in the one trial he had, where he was represented by counsel and allowed to present a defense, he was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

So it goes a little bit beyond being accused, arrested and arraigned, now doesn't it?

 

[Rogah]

The settlement story is BS from the DA.