Greg Hardy: "If Cowboys Offer, I'd Love to Stay Here"

[Yakuza Rich]

So now that you have been further educated by me, you should reconsider your position. Everything you thought you knew about the bench trial was wrong, and fact remains that in the one trial he had, he was able to present his defense, and he was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That ain't a media fabrication or narrative, my friend. That's a fact.

The conviction was expunged from his record which supersedes the conviction at the bench trial. And it was expunged because the DA found Holder to not be credible.

Sorry.






YR

 

[Nightman]

The conviction was expunged from his record which supersedes the conviction at the bench trial. And it was expunged because the DA found Holder to not be credible.

Sorry.






YR

The moment it was appealed the bench trial conviction was irrelevant. It was vacated before they left the building.

Rogah is just a sore loser that looks the other way when he his favorite team and player cheats in an actual game. He isn't worth arguing with unless its just for kicks.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The conviction was expunged from his record which supersedes the conviction at the bench trial. And it was expunged because the DA found Holder to not be credible.

Sorry.






YR

This is the bottom line. The fact that a woman judge found Hardy guilty in spite of all the holes in the case says far more about the judge then it does about Hardy.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The moment it was appealed the bench trial conviction was irrelevant. It was vacated before they left the building.

Rogah is just a sore loser that looks the other way when he his favorite team and player cheats in an actual game. He isn't worth arguing with unless its just for kicks.

So let me see if I understand, you're saying he doesnt know near as much as he claims to know when he says he knows more than everybody else?

 

[Nightman]

So let me see if I understand, you're saying he doesnt know near as much as he claims to know when he says he knows more than everybody else?

I actually missed the little fella during the Cowboys season. I guess he was busy going to all the games with his photo of his season tickets and gearing up for another Pats playoff run.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I actually missed the little fella during the Cowboys season. I guess he was busy going to all the games with his photo of his season tickets and gearing up for another Pats playoff run.

And . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . collecting plastic stadium cups to put on his mantle

 

[Rogah]

He was found guilty in a hearing not much different from Traffic Court, in a high profile case heard by a Judge coming up on reelection who had campaigned on being tough on Domestic Violence. When the District Attorney had to take it to a real trial, he dropped all charges immediately without seeking a plea bargain.

That's a fact.

Sorry, you can keep saying it but like Yakuza, you're wrong.

FACT: It was a full trial, he was represented by an attorney who could present evidence, cross examine witnesses, and call witnesses of his own. The prosecutin had to meet the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which they did in the eyes of the presiding judge.

FACT: The district attorney only dropped charges when the victim refused further cooperation. Anyone with an IQ above that of Forrest Gump knows exactly why $he $topped cooperating.

Those are the facts. You living in denial does nothing to change them.

 

[Rogah]

So let me see if I understand, you're saying he doesnt know near as much as he claims to know when he says he knows more than everybody else?

I don't claim to know more than everyone else, but I clearly know far, far more than the Hardy apologists in here who don't have the first clue what a bench trial is.

 

[Rogah]

I actually missed the little fella during the Cowboys season. I guess he was busy going to all the games with his photo of his season tickets and gearing up for another Pats playoff run.

Yes I am a Cowboys season ticket holder and went to 6 home games this season. (Granted, you couldn't give the tickets away once we hit Thanksgiving, but that's beside the point)

Why this upsets you so much is entirely beyond me. Perhaps you could pause from being so butthurt and explain?

 

[pancakeman]

Jerry needs to do with him what we've been doing recently....heavy performance laden contracts. If you play well and presumably stay out of trouble so you can stay on the field...you'll get rewarded. If you don't, we can back out of the contract at any time.

I'm curious, how do heavy performance laden contracts work with the salary cap? Do they count against it at the maximum possible salary earned?

 

[BruceWayne]

Bring him back. He was out for a year. He should be back at elite status next season

 

[Nightman]

I'm curious, how do heavy performance laden contracts work with the salary cap? Do they count against it at the maximum possible salary earned?

It depends.

If it is deemed Likely to be Earned then it counts this year- LTBE
If it is deemed Not LTBE it would count the next year

LTBE is decided by the players stats and games last year. If he gets a 100k per sack incentive and had 10 last year, it would count as 1m(10x 100k). Anything over 10 would be considered NLTBE and would count next year.

But either way if there is room left at the end of the season it will be adjusted right then.

 

[Nightman]

I don't claim to know more than everyone else, but I clearly know far, far more than the Hardy apologists in here who don't have the first clue what a bench trial is.

A bench trial is 100% meaningless as soon as it is appealed. It is as though it never happened. They don't even keep transcripts because it is so meaningless. If someone is found innocent they walk away, if they are found guilty they immediately appeal. It is non-binding.

Your misrepresentation of it's importance and standing is intentional and shows your agenda.

 

[Nightman]

This is the bottom line. The fact that a woman judge found Hardy guilty in spite of all the holes in the case says far more about the judge then it does about Hardy.

It is also because the DA hid key exculpatory evidence during the bench trial. When they were called on it 2 days before the jury trial they immediately dropped all charges.

That is when they concocted the settlement story to publicly cover their butts.

Rogah never talks about that key piece of information.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Look Hardy is a naive player who basically got money laundered, that said I like the mans demeanor on the field and in the locker room.

However, if you let Kevin Hardy walk it gives room for a Billy Manziel and/or an RGknee but even more excit over a Draft guy like Nkemdiche who physically looks & dominates like the next Aaron Donald or dare I say - a man named Sue.

 

[CCBoy]

Look Hardy is a naive player who basically got money laundered, that said I like the mans demeanor on the field and in the locker room.

However, if you let Kevin Hardy walk it gives room for a Billy Manziel and/or an RGknee but even more excit over a Draft guy like Nkemdiche who physically looks & dominates like the next Aaron Donald or dare I say - a man named Sue.

Just bring back D Ware for a final two seasons...

 

[texbumthelife]

Look Hardy is a naive player who basically got money laundered, that said I like the mans demeanor on the field and in the locker room.

However, if you let Kevin Hardy walk it gives room for a Billy Manziel and/or an RGknee but even more excit over a Draft guy like Nkemdiche who physically looks & dominates like the next Aaron Donald or dare I say - a man named Sue.

Nkemdiche looks and plays NOTHING like Aaron Donald. That's about the most self-serving exaggeration I have read in here since the season ended. Donald had two seasons with double digits sacks as a full time DT and two seasons with double digit tackles for a loss. He also had 42 and 43 tackles his final two seasons. He looked like a man child and regularly threw blockers on their ***** and beat double teams. Nkemdiche had his career high of 3 sacks this season as well as his career high of 7 tackles for a loss and has never had more than 28 tackles. Nkemdiche is overrated enough without comparing him to a guy who was potentially a once in a generation type talent. I won't even go into the Sue hyperbole...

Moving on, I think it is in the teams best interest to keep Greg Hardy as a player. he certainly didn't do anything to warrant a huge contract this season, but could regain his form with another full offseason. If that is the case, it would be an absolute coup. I don't like him as a person and he wasn't as advertised this season, but if he regains form he is worth the deal he should get.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't think you are wrong at all. His body language, words he uses, tone, everthing points to his discomfort with Hardy. You just get the feeling that at the end of the day he was outvoted and Hardy became a Cowboy without an endorsement from the HC.

Exactly..........I think he got out voted, but did not want to say anything publicly.

What tipped me off was when the media was asking about how players did this year and Garrett was throwing compliments left and right about DMAC and then when asked about Hardy, Garrett thought for a second and said he stopped the run well and got some decent pressure on the QB..........that was it........after he spent like 2 mins talking about how good DMAC was this year.

Just seemed extremely obvious that Jason did not want to talk about or discuss Hardy at all...........that's why I said I think he wants Hardy gone.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Garrett wanted DMurray last year as well and we all know how that worked out.

If JJones wants GHardy back he will sign him.

Totally agree..............Garrett wanted Murray back and was overruled just like I think he was overruled on the Hardy signing.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

but I clearly know far, far more