Gregory Details

Gregory is a guy that I would prefer to not have a Twitter account. Nothing good can come of it.

I think the question isn't whether he failed a drug test, it is the situation where he was out of touch with everyone that one day.
 
Bleu Star said:
This guy is officially dead to me. Good luck in life but, as far as the Cowboys are concerned,.. Who?
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I do not blame them about this.

The team has stood by and let it play itself out.

At this point..

I would release him and Rico hit the street just on stupidity grounds alone.

We wanted this year with no drama..remember?
 
TwoDeep3 said:
1. The organization doesn't have a lot of information about the status of Gregory's off field care

2. Franchise offered help, but was rejected by his representatives

3. Gregory's agent states no one from the Cowboy's has contacted him

(2 and 3 are contradictory, which causes me to wonder what the heck is going on)

4. Nothing confirmed, but rumors Gregory might get suspended again for failing a drug test in training camp

5. Normally the league would give the team notice a day before it was announced (the failed drug test announcement) Nothing has been said to the team thus far

6. Cowboys have offered sobriety coaches but the representatives have rejected this in fear they will lose control of the player

7. Sunday morning ESPN stated he had a relapse.

8. Cowboys know nothing about a relapse

9. Gregory's lawyer did not return text about issue


I am personally getting a little frustrated the way this league does business. It started with the Dez non-catch and subsequent rule changes that are still illogical at best and just down right interpretive by every ref going, and then overruled by faceless minions of Goodell upon review. (BTW, I agree with the non-catch, but that is another argument)

Then the Zeke suspension which was simply the league office trying to make up for the Ray Rice issue to look tough on domestic abuse. Now add in one of the main rivals of the team has a hand in the discussions on Zeke and maybe influenced the outcome - and don't let me mince words - outright cheated Dallas and labeled Zeke a criminal and bad guy when the evidence pointed toward the woman being vindictive when she thought Zeke's becoming a rich man meant she would share in that.

Now we have the team sitting on pins and needles with rumors flying about a player with immense potential and the team has no hand in the recovery of the player, and is blocked by his representatives from knowing the status so they can make plans. Then factor in the league perhaps staying in touch with the agent, but not informing the team at all. And this is the way you run a major corporation with a world brand.

It is either gross incompetence by the league or some punitive sanction (double secret probation) being meted out on the team.

Or both.

I saw my first Cowboy game when I was 8 years old and missed few. Except a year I was feted by the Federal Govt to spend a year in Southeast Asia in what could only be labeled as Disneyland East - which caused me to miss the first Super Bowl winning season and ensuing Super Bowl game.

I have never thought about giving up on this team. Even during the Doug Pelleur era.

However, because of the ridiculous rule changes, the ineptitude of the front office keeping a GM that cannot GM and a head coach that cannot head coach. And now the league picking and choosing winners and losers, my fervor for this team has waned enough that I am starting to wonder why I give a rat's butt.

This watered down product is a shadow of what real NFL football is about. Teams cannot have two-a-days because the players union negotiated this. Tackle football is moving toward touch football, and for gosh sake they have male cheerleaders.

This issue with Gregory is heinous for the team, and I suspect some of it is another swipe at taking advantage of a relationship between the Commish and his team owner buddies who will do anything to win.

Sorry, after yesterday's beat down, and today's news, and the fact Garrett still has a job as well as our GM, I think I am finally getting pissed off. Please ignore my angst.
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What is your source for this information?
 
TwoDeep3 said:
1. The organization doesn't have a lot of information about the status of Gregory's off field care

2. Franchise offered help, but was rejected by his representatives

3. Gregory's agent states no one from the Cowboy's has contacted him

(2 and 3 are contradictory, which causes me to wonder what the heck is going on)

4. Nothing confirmed, but rumors Gregory might get suspended again for failing a drug test in training camp

5. Normally the league would give the team notice a day before it was announced (the failed drug test announcement) Nothing has been said to the team thus far

6. Cowboys have offered sobriety coaches but the representatives have rejected this in fear they will lose control of the player

7. Sunday morning ESPN stated he had a relapse.

8. Cowboys know nothing about a relapse

9. Gregory's lawyer did not return text about issue


I am personally getting a little frustrated the way this league does business. It started with the Dez non-catch and subsequent rule changes that are still illogical at best and just down right interpretive by every ref going, and then overruled by faceless minions of Goodell upon review. (BTW, I agree with the non-catch, but that is another argument)

Then the Zeke suspension which was simply the league office trying to make up for the Ray Rice issue to look tough on domestic abuse. Now add in one of the main rivals of the team has a hand in the discussions on Zeke and maybe influenced the outcome - and don't let me mince words - outright cheated Dallas and labeled Zeke a criminal and bad guy when the evidence pointed toward the woman being vindictive when she thought Zeke's becoming a rich man meant she would share in that.

Now we have the team sitting on pins and needles with rumors flying about a player with immense potential and the team has no hand in the recovery of the player, and is blocked by his representatives from knowing the status so they can make plans. Then factor in the league perhaps staying in touch with the agent, but not informing the team at all. And this is the way you run a major corporation with a world brand.

It is either gross incompetence by the league or some punitive sanction (double secret probation) being meted out on the team.

Or both.

I saw my first Cowboy game when I was 8 years old and missed few. Except a year I was feted by the Federal Govt to spend a year in Southeast Asia in what could only be labeled as Disneyland East - which caused me to miss the first Super Bowl winning season and ensuing Super Bowl game.

I have never thought about giving up on this team. Even during the Doug Pelleur era.

However, because of the ridiculous rule changes, the ineptitude of the front office keeping a GM that cannot GM and a head coach that cannot head coach. And now the league picking and choosing winners and losers, my fervor for this team has waned enough that I am starting to wonder why I give a rat's butt.

This watered down product is a shadow of what real NFL football is about. Teams cannot have two-a-days because the players union negotiated this. Tackle football is moving toward touch football, and for gosh sake they have male cheerleaders.

This issue with Gregory is heinous for the team, and I suspect some of it is another swipe at taking advantage of a relationship between the Commish and his team owner buddies who will do anything to win.

Sorry, after yesterday's beat down, and today's news, and the fact Garrett still has a job as well as our GM, I think I am finally getting pissed off. Please ignore my angst.
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Just curious about how you are privy to all this information if the team isn't. Do you work for Gregory's rep or league office. Serious question
 
For Pete’s sake, stop taking chances on players with a history of substance abuse. They will always let the team down. Gregory and Irving should be off this roster today, but we all know there will be BS rationalization to keep them on.
 
CATCH17 said:
The rumor is that he tested positive but the NFL is trying to let it go but they are upset at him for making comments about their program when they are trying to help him out with recent failed tests.

Who knows though whats true.
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Where is this coming from, C17? NOT questioning you, but your post is pretty specific and detailed.
 
There is an article on CBS Sports stating that he had a relapse in August and could face another suspension.

This kid really is a drug deal gone bad.

Its forth down - its time to puntl!!!!
 
TwoDeep3 said:
Then tell that to the journalist who contacted him.
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I have also heard his attorney talk about R. Gregory quite a bit. He did a one hour podcast with Bobby Belt about a month ago and went into a lot of detail. He is probably not too happy right now because during the podcast he kept talking about how R. Gregory had not only grown up but was a changed man.
 
R. Gregory also tweeted about an hour and a half ago, the tweet just said "I'll be alright" with a smiley face emoji.
 
TwoDeep3 said:
1. The organization doesn't have a lot of information about the status of Gregory's off field care

2. Franchise offered help, but was rejected by his representatives

3. Gregory's agent states no one from the Cowboy's has contacted him

(2 and 3 are contradictory, which causes me to wonder what the heck is going on)

4. Nothing confirmed, but rumors Gregory might get suspended again for failing a drug test in training camp

5. Normally the league would give the team notice a day before it was announced (the failed drug test announcement) Nothing has been said to the team thus far

6. Cowboys have offered sobriety coaches but the representatives have rejected this in fear they will lose control of the player

7. Sunday morning ESPN stated he had a relapse.

8. Cowboys know nothing about a relapse

9. Gregory's lawyer did not return text about issue


I am personally getting a little frustrated the way this league does business. It started with the Dez non-catch and subsequent rule changes that are still illogical at best and just down right interpretive by every ref going, and then overruled by faceless minions of Goodell upon review. (BTW, I agree with the non-catch, but that is another argument)

Then the Zeke suspension which was simply the league office trying to make up for the Ray Rice issue to look tough on domestic abuse. Now add in one of the main rivals of the team has a hand in the discussions on Zeke and maybe influenced the outcome - and don't let me mince words - outright cheated Dallas and labeled Zeke a criminal and bad guy when the evidence pointed toward the woman being vindictive when she thought Zeke's becoming a rich man meant she would share in that.

Now we have the team sitting on pins and needles with rumors flying about a player with immense potential and the team has no hand in the recovery of the player, and is blocked by his representatives from knowing the status so they can make plans. Then factor in the league perhaps staying in touch with the agent, but not informing the team at all. And this is the way you run a major corporation with a world brand.

It is either gross incompetence by the league or some punitive sanction (double secret probation) being meted out on the team.

Or both.

I saw my first Cowboy game when I was 8 years old and missed few. Except a year I was feted by the Federal Govt to spend a year in Southeast Asia in what could only be labeled as Disneyland East - which caused me to miss the first Super Bowl winning season and ensuing Super Bowl game.

I have never thought about giving up on this team. Even during the Doug Pelleur era.

However, because of the ridiculous rule changes, the ineptitude of the front office keeping a GM that cannot GM and a head coach that cannot head coach. And now the league picking and choosing winners and losers, my fervor for this team has waned enough that I am starting to wonder why I give a rat's butt.

This watered down product is a shadow of what real NFL football is about. Teams cannot have two-a-days because the players union negotiated this. Tackle football is moving toward touch football, and for gosh sake they have male cheerleaders.

This issue with Gregory is heinous for the team, and I suspect some of it is another swipe at taking advantage of a relationship between the Commish and his team owner buddies who will do anything to win.

Sorry, after yesterday's beat down, and today's news, and the fact Garrett still has a job as well as our GM, I think I am finally getting pissed off. Please ignore my angst.
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Chill my friend. It WILL get better somehow, someway.
 
speedkilz88 said:
Moskowitz is not who would be talking publicly about this. It would be his agent.


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Stephen, it shouldn't surprise you........most of the NFL world knows more about the Cowboys than ya'll do.........now get Jerry and go play some slot machines.
 
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