Guilty pleasures, bad movies you love

blindzebra

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LaTunaNostra said:
I have seen it!
Quick, Chief, tell me the former NFL player it "starred"!

He was also in Brian's Song and Revenge of the Nerds.
 

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blindzebra said:
He was also in Brian's Song and Revenge of the Nerds.
He played for the Niners, and the Raiders.. LOL I don't know what position tho.

Chief's right tho, if you saw that as a kid, you were damn scared.

And the reason is for that time, these cheapo tv movies (which is what I think it was, hard to imagine it was real box office) didn't have such good make up artists, but this one DID and this "gargoyle" was disturbing.

It also starred a fairly well known B movie actor from the 50's.
 

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I had to look it up ... found this review:


GARGOYLES (1972)
Tomorrow Entertainment
Rating: N/A


Ever see a movie that scared the crap out of you when you were a kid and that seems really corny today (For more detail about that, see my review of THE GREEN SLIME)? This is not one of those times.

GARGOYLES (a made-for-TV movie) was written by Elinor and Steven Karpf (TERROR IN THE SKY [TV], DEVIL DOG: THE HOUND OF HELL [TV]) and directed by Bill L. Norton (TWILIGHT ZONE [TV], PROFILER [TV], ANGEL [TV], ROSWELL [TV], JOHN DOE [TV], MEDIUM [TV]). It opens with some narration about legends of hell and the devil and how the devil supposedly said, when he was banished to hell, that his offspring, the gargoyles, will rule the world. Like most narration it really isn't necessary to the story (Or remotely accurate even as a myth - Feo).

The actual story begins with Dr. Mercer Boley (Cornel Wilde: THE NAKED PREY, THE NORSEMAN) at a small airport. A prop plane lands and his daughter Diana (Jennifer Salt: MIDNIGHT COWBOY, SISTERS, OUT OF THE DARKNESS) gets out. Conversation makes it clear that Boley is a successful author of several books about ancient legends and superstitions. The father / daughter pair is driving south through Arizona on their way to Mexico for research on the Maya.

Boley's books and talk show appearances result in lots of letters from odd people making odd claims. On the way through Arizona, Boley makes a side trip to check out a such a letter. They stop at Uncle Willie's Desert Museum where Uncle Willie (Woody Chambliss: THE DEVIL'S RAIN, SCORPIO) describes the book he wants Boley to co-write with him.

Boley quickly loses interest and is headed out the door when Uncle Willie unveils his "discovery": a skeleton that looks like a man with wings and a horned skull. Boley is still skeptical but decides to listen to what the old man has to say.

Uncle Willie's stories about the local Indian legends concerning the creatures represented by the skeleton go well into the evening. Once it's dark outside Willie makes a point of bolting the door, saying only that he has his reasons - he always locks all the doors at night.

The gargoyle attack that follows is well done and suspenseful and we got here fast, without any slow spots. The story moves and the scenes with the reptilian creatures moving through the dark making eerie noises are still scary. The director made an excellent choice by shooting all the scenes in slight slow motion, making the gargoyles seem more real somehow.

Not that they're perfect. The gargoyles are obviously guys in rubber suits and in many scenes you can see the imperfectly fitting rubber suits bunched up around the joints. How much that bothers you depends on how much you can watch a movie on its own level. This is a very low budget B monster flick from the 70's, after all. Cut it some slack and the story will entertain you.

Boley and Diana go to the police the next day and report what happened, leaving out the part about the gargoyles. When the cops arrive at Willie's place they find a group of dirt bikers picking over the remains of the buildings and decide they must have been responsible for the whole thing. One of the bikers is played by a very young Scott Glenn (THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER, THE KEEP).

Boley has kept the horned skull from the skeleton and has it in the motel room with him and his daughter. This leads to an event that gave me nightmares for quite a while - you'll know it when you see it. There are lots of memorable moments, especially involving the King Gargoyle (Bernie Casey: VEGAS VAMPS, DR. BLACK - MR. HYDE, CLEOPATRA JONES). He and the other "winged breeders" can speak and their voices are other worldly.

Winged, you ask? As in, he can fly? To answer that I think we're overdue for a

!!!SCIENCE MOMENT!!!:
This movie tries to portray the race of Gargoyles as intelligent reptilians with an unusually long egg incubation period: 500 years. That's why they disappear for centuries and become mere legend, then make a new appearance, get all but wiped out by humanity, and are forgotten as legend again until the next time. That raises lots of questions, like why aren't skeletons of these creatures found all the time and where are the fossils of whatever line of reptiles lead to these intelligent beings? But I can let all of that go with some handwaving and I can respect their attempt to approach gargoyles from a science direction. What I can't let go is the flying. You can't have something as big and heavy as a man flying on such flimsy, slow wings without invoking magic. The physics just doesn't work out on its own unless the wings (and associated back muscles to drive the wings) are much, much bigger.

I hadn't seen this film since it scared me as a kid but I was surprised at how well it held up. Yeah, the rubber outfits are cheesy and the ridiculously well lit caves are cheesy and the actual flying scenes are really cheesy but if you watch this movie at its level you can still achieve suspension of disbelief enough to be creeped out by the gargoyle noises coming from the dark desert. I give GARGOYLES three Shriek Girls.
 

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Chief said:
I hadn't seen this film since it scared me as a kid but I was surprised at how well it held up. Yeah, the rubber outfits are cheesy and the ridiculously well lit caves are cheesy and the actual flying scenes are really cheesy but if you watch this movie at its level you can still achieve suspension of disbelief enough to be creeped out by the gargoyle noises coming from the dark desert. I give GARGOYLES three Shriek Girls.
Bah!

The outfits might have been cheesy but the make up was not.

Casey was unrecognizable and very very frightening.

Also heavy erotic undertones to it as the gargoyles were incubii.
 

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The Naked Gun
I'm Gonna Git You Sucka (a hilarious Wayans' movie)
Better Off Dead
One Crazy Summer....what can I say? Cusak used to be one of my favorite actors.
 

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All the right moves
pink panther movies
weekend at bernies
desparately seeking susan
midway
slingblade
 

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jterrell said:
I like guy movies.
Generally they are too heavy in violence and objectify women.

Seldom do they have any depth or plot.
Penitentiary x3, Rambo Series, The Mack, Rocky Series, SuperFly, Dolemite, Revenge of the Nerds, Animal House, Spike Lee's Frat movie, Cobra, NightHawks, Cool Hand Luke, Fort Apache the Bronx, Bullett, Color of Money, Bloodsport.

Reality should strip you of your mod status for claiming that Cool Hand Luke is a bad movie.

Take it back.
 

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Anyone else love "Red Dawn"? The "brat pack's" take on global politics. :p:

I don't know if it counts as a "bad" movie, but I also loved "The Outsiders" despite it's low production value.

Another movie I loved that no one may have heard of before is "Listen to Me" which starred Kirk Cameron and was about a college debate team. For some reason, I don't think they ever re-released that one on DVD.
 

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Carradine classic. Death Race 2000!!!

Any of the Japanese Godzilla movies and my favourite cheesy horro from the 70's , "It's Alive!"
 
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