Harvard Business Review: Steve Jobs Solved the Innovator's Dilemma

[YosemiteSam]

Pretty good read if you're interested in this type of stuff.

Steve Jobs Solved the Innovator's Dilemma

I might have to pick up that *** head's biography. I know Walter Isaacson is an awesome writer. I've read a couple of his biographies.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

I might have to pick up that *** head's biography. I know Walter Isaacson is an awesome writer. I've read a couple of his biographies.

I know you have your reasons for not liking Jobs. He was not always a good person and did not always do the right thing. But he owned that fact. And he did not try to keep Isaacson from digging into that when writing the book. I think you have to respect what he's done in business, and I think you'll respect him as a person to a degree when you've read his story. PM me if you'd like and I'll send you my copy when I'm done with it in a few days.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I know you have your reasons for not liking Jobs. He was not always a good person and did not always do the right thing. But he owned that fact. And he did not try to keep Isaacson from digging into that when writing the book. I think you have to respect what he's done in business, and I think you'll respect him as a person to a degree when you've read his story. PM me if you'd like and I'll send you my copy when I'm done with it in a few days.

Oh I respect what he has done. There is no question about that. I just don't like him as a person. I respect what Bill Gates did too, but I didin't like him either. Though I will say this. Gates are really mellowed since he step down at Microsoft.

Don't get me started on Larry Ellison. He is a incredible business man and incredibly smart too, but he is as big if not a bigger POS than Steve Jobs was.

What do all three of these guys have in common? They lack human kindness and will **** on anyone if they get in their way. (well, Bill Gates has definitely changed for the better)

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

And to the point of the article, it's true. Think about companies that were started by one passionate individual and what happened to the company when they were gone.

Take Disney for example. There is no passion there. They do not care about making great parks that people will enjoy. They are single-mindedly determined to wring every last penny out of every family that comes through the doors. Billions in revenues each year, but it's not enough and they have to keep jacking up the prices on everything in the park. Ridiculously expensive meals that taste like cardboard and cost pennies to produce. Same with the merchandise. Passion is stamped out at Disney, and all that's allowed is white bread conformity.

Steve certainly left his DNA in the company, but it remains to be seen how long it lasts before the next generation of management comes along with their ideas of innovation and profit.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Oh I respect what he has done. There is no question about that. I just don't like him as a person. I respect what Bill Gates did too, but I didin't like him either. Though I will say this. Gates are really mellowed since he step down at Microsoft.

Don't get me started on Larry Ellison. He is a incredible business man and incredibly smart too, but he is as big if not a bigger POS than Steve Jobs was.

What do all three of these guys have in common? They lack human kindness and will **** on anyone if they get in their way. (well, Bill Gates has definitely changed for the better)

I agree on Gates. Taking a step back and looking at what having those resources means has really changed him and for the better. He (seems to) truly believe in real change and innovation for the greater good these days. Maybe it's just the influence of his wife.

Ellison's ego would probably never allow that.

No way to say whether or not Jobs would have softened had he not gotten cancer.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It's not just the controlling manner I didn't like about him. He was a straight up jerk who always would bend the rules because he thought they didn't apply to him.

Case in point: The story behind Steve Jobs’ Mercedez Benz and its missing license plate

We are not allowed to talk about how many political figures he has paid off to to strong arm his competition.

 

[arglebargle]

That article was some interesting reading. Some challenging stuff, and good comments section.

However, I'd like to note that being dead does not make you a good person.

 

[vta]

That article was some interesting reading. Some challenging stuff, and good comments section.

However, I'd like to note that being dead does not make you a good person.

Conversely, being a good person doesn't get you much respect, admiration or advancement either. As those 3 things are recognized as desirable in our so-called culture, it sure looks as thought the priorities of a society are certainly served by elevating less than humble people to greater heights. Not to paint with too broad a brush, but it seems the only people who make the news or any kind of difference are anything but good. 'Good' is too puritanical and gratuitous for this generation.

Who's to complain about who's good and who's not?

 

[baj1dallas]

I get a kick out of people who talk about business like it's some kind of religion and people like Jobs are gurus. Load of tripe is what it is.