has anyone heard JJ endorse Wade since Shan got fired...

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masomenos85;2551285 said:
I don't know, do you mean you don't think that he's capable of winning a playoff game, or a Super Bowl?


Has he yet...in his 328 years of coaching?


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5Stars;2551292 said:
Has he yet...in his 328 years of coaching?


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His ability to win future postseason games is not determined by previous outcomes.
 

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masomenos85;2551317 said:
His ability to win future postseason games is not determined by previous outcomes.


Nice to know that! You gave me some hope.

Right now, I'm a poor bastid...maybe next year I can become a millionair!


:)

Yeah...let me try the same things I've been doing all my life and see if the results are the same...
 

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masomenos85;2551285 said:
I don't know, do you mean you don't think that he's capable of winning a playoff game, or a Super Bowl?

I am not interested in just winning a playoff game with the talent we have. That shouldn't be as hard as it has been.

I am referring to winning the SB.

Wade is NOT a HC. He is a DC. IMO/FWIW.
 

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Sarge;2551364 said:
I am not interested in just winning a playoff game with the talent we have. That shouldn't be as hard as it has been.

I am referring to winning the SB.

Wade is NOT a HC. He is a DC. IMO/FWIW.

Yes, Wade is a DC that is out of his element.
 

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WoodysGirl;2551123 said:
Five Stages Of Grief

Denial and Isolation.
At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.

Anger.
The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she's dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.

Bargaining.
Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, "If I do this, will you take away the loss?"

Depression.
The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.

Acceptance.
This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.

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and this has what to do with my question..........?


we already have enough bashing Wade threads.....i was asking a simple question...maybe it was to simple
 

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dadymat;2551454 said:
and this has what to do with my question..........?


we already have enough bashing Wade threads.....i was asking a simple question...maybe it was to simple
Or maybe my post was too deep.

Seemed simple enough to me. What stage of grief do you think you're in if you're still questioning whether Jerry is going to change his mind re: Wade?
 

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dadymat;2551109 said:
just wondering if anyone has heard from JJ regarding the Shanahan situation,?,,if he has repeated his stance on Wade since the Shan fireing

No I didnt think he would have to address his support for Wade everytime a camera is on tho...
 

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WoodysGirl;2551458 said:
Or maybe my post was too deep.

Seemed simple enough to me. What stage of grief do you think you're in if you're still questioning whether Jerry is going to change his mind re: Wade?

not too deep......too unrelated to my post...:rolleyes:

wondering if Jerry has endorsed Wade since Shan got fired doesnt mean im grieving................. and it doesnt mean im in denial.........

with all the rumors here ,on the networks and in news outlets I thought maybe Jerry would come out and re assure the public that he hasnt changed his mind.....
 

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dadymat;2551485 said:
not too deep......too unrelated to my post...:rolleyes:

wondering if Jerry has endorsed Wade since Shan got fired doesnt mean im grieving................. and it doesnt mean im in denial.........
If you say so
with all the rumors here ,on the networks and in news outlets I thought maybe Jerry would come out and re assure the public that he hasnt changed his mind.....
Why should he do that? He's already stated he's keeping Wade. I doubt the man is going to hold a PC everytime there's an unexpected candidate on the market.
 

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WoodysGirl;2551493 said:
Why should he do that? He's already stated he's keeping Wade. I doubt the man is going to hold a PC everytime there's an unexpected candidate on the market.
The department of redundancy department thinks he should.
 

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Is resignation a step?

If so, I'm resigned to the fact that Wade is the coach and this team will go no where with him at the helm.

Acceptance is too positive a word.
 

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tyke1doe;2551577 said:
Is resignation a step?

If so, I'm resigned to the fact that Wade is the coach and this team will go no where with him at the helm.

Acceptance is too positive a word.


Anything is possible...! You just got to make it happen.
 

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I would rather Wade Phillips be demoted to a defensive cordinator and Mike Shanahan become the head coach/offensive cordinator...
 

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WoodysGirl;2551458 said:
Or maybe my post was too deep.

Seemed simple enough to me. What stage of grief do you think you're in if you're still questioning whether Jerry is going to change his mind re: Wade?

It could also apply to Jerry. Maybe he was in the denial stage when he was saying everyone would be back and if the reports are correct and he's "getting angrier by the minute", he's now entering the anger phase?

That could mean new coach! :D

Or I'm just wishing too hard.
 

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tyke1doe;2551577 said:
Is resignation a step?

If so, I'm resigned to the fact that Wade is the coach and this team will go no where with him at the helm.

Acceptance is too positive a word.


I was hoping Wade would resign.
 

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I am stuck in stage 4.......Depression.

I refuse to move to stage 5 and accept this garbage I am seeing on the field.

I refuse to accept that receivers can keep running wrong routes and nobody does a dam thing about it.

I refuse to accept that o-lineman can forget the snap count repeatedly and still keep thier jobs.

I refuse to accept players going half-arse and then complaining about the scheme.

I refuse to accept that the defense knows our plays before we snap the freaking ball and we dont adjust.

I refuse to accept playcalling right out of Tecmo Bowl.

I refuse to accept a bye week as a playoff win and that participation ribbons are actual awards.

I refuse to accept a gutless, heartless performance by a group of players that dont care if they win or not and celebrate the season being over on the plane ride home and with parties the next day.

And Finally.............................I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO OR "CONTINUITY" AS JERRY SAYS.
 

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WoodysGirl;2551123 said:
Five Stages Of Grief

Denial and Isolation.
At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.

Anger.
The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she's dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.

Bargaining.
Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, "If I do this, will you take away the loss?"

Depression.
The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.

Acceptance.
This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.

Link

Wow! Are we saying that people want Shanny only because of the process outlined above in conjunction with this poor season? I don't buy into it. Wade Phillips is not a championship caliber HC and is not even a playoff game winning caliber coach. There is no denial or bargaining in those facts and I sure as hell won't accept Wades end of those results. Wade = 0 SB's, 0-4 in the playoffs. Shanny during the Cowboys last 12 seasons of 0 playoff win purgatory has 2 SB rings and an 8-4 playoff record.

Or are we saying Jerry is dealing with those above mentioned feelings from not making the playoffs? Because he better not be either, especially the acceptance part. Pat Bowlen just ate $20 million over the next 3 years just on Shanny's contract and don't forget the rest of the coaching staff costs money too. Why? Because Shanny refused to give up his GM/personnel power, fire his DC and hasn't made the playoffs the last 3 seasons since starting and developing a rookie QB 3 years ago and inferior talent. Other than Champ Bailey, Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall I would not give Denver anything more than a 2nd rounder for any of their players.

There should be nothing that keeps Jerry away from pursuing a once in a blue moon opportunity to get Shanny. All I hear is $ and continuity that doesn't even exist on this team as the reason's to keep Wade on this team. Jerry's real excuse is his man crush on Garrett and he's cheap when it comes to coaching. Jerry saves a few million every year by not hiring a real GM and lets not mention the other executive positions his whole family acts in. I have no problem in the family running the business and I like that, but don't BS us why you can't get a real coach. He's so cocky we'll watch and buy anything to do with this team he doesn't consider how his stubborn decisions continue to produce poor results on the field. You need the players, you need the philosophy, you need the coach, you need the structure to win in this league. You need to win to keep your fans to get you a return on your investment. Shanny wasn't available yet when Jerry let Wade parade around like he was still the HC the days after this teams horrid performance. So I won't hold Jerry to that with the other shlups that were available and Cowher isn't worth the $. But a gem just dropped out of the sky with Shanny.

Jerry wishes I would feel like I'm in denial and so would the minions he hires to do his PR work, but none of the excuses make sense other than boy love for Garrett and not believing $ needs to be invested in the coaching ranks of this team. Keep making $ Jerry, there's no denying that. I saw you spend much more on training camp bells and whistles than celebrating a stadium that was home to 5 SB championships, there's no denying that either. Don't tell me that the profitable hopes of that $1.1 Billion stadium, which actually ran up to 1.3 billion is at risk because of getting rid of Wade or Garrett's salary and paying for a real HC. You can keep Wade and Bowlen eats up everything you don't pay Shanny up to $7 million a season for the next 3 years. Garrett will go to a bottom feeder because no one else will and will ensure a HC shot. Force it upon him and tell him he will lose the Asst. HC title that helps make him so attractive, the results demand it. No one else will pay Wade $3 million tobe a DC so if he doesn't like the demotion he can get out of his contract that he only has 1 year left on it. Heck add $.5 million and shave it off the roster if you it hurts you and Wades feeling that much. Wade leaves there is Capers, Mangini and Crennel to take over DC if Shanny wants them. Jerry's excuses are garbage and there is no denying that. He really thinks Wade can turn this around he's going scenile on even the business end because having Shanny as the coach hedges his investment even better than Wade. No one believes we will do any better next year and most importantly that's the majority of us fans. This team will implode with this cupcake cuddler as the primary leader in that locker room. There's no denying that.
 
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