Has anything changed?

[LatinMind]

All I hear in Cowboy Forums is that Garrett has changed the thinking of the team. I ask myself in what way has he changed this team? In running back to the huddle in practice? Wearing a tie to the football game? What does this have to do with football? OK the running back to the huddle give the players a sense of respect for the game. But I'm asking myself why did dallas fire Wade if its still getting the same results it did with Wade as HC. Yes they have won a couple more games, but other then the Giants win, Dallas couldve lost then other games if it werent for refs over officiating the game. Granted Dallas has come up o its own share of the bad part of that over officiating. My point is those could easily be loses.

I dont want to hear about how Garrett is playing with a backup QB. IMO Kitna has played just as good or better then Romo did at any part of the season. I dont want to hear about Romo played when Wade was coach, because Romo didnt answer to Wade. He answered to the guy who is HC now. Wade has nothing to do with the offense. Never has.

The OL is horrible. Im not going to bash and blame Colombo like 99% of Cowboy fans. Yes he's getting beat on plays, but its not because of lack of effort. If you look at the game nobody on that offense line tries harder. He just doesnt have the legs anymore. Injuries early in his career cut his career in half. Its not his fault the team hasnt found somebody better to replace him. They tell him to go and play and he does it 100%. JUst happens that his 100% isnt good enough anymore. Davis and Gurode are a different story. Theyre relatively young and healthy, theyre just bad. Cant get the 2nd level to create lanes, easily get confused on simple stunts by defense. Hell any movement along the front 7 for the defense and its usually a blown play for the Cowboys because of their lack of football intelligence and knowing who to block. Free is learning, he's fine aswell has Kosier if he could stay healthy. But this is Garretts fault, he's the ***'n OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. Hes supposed to coordinate the offense. Teach them the principles of his scheme. This OL knows nothing about principles, let alone assignments. Last yr Dallas would destroy teams with its running game, this yr what is a running game?

WR: Can they drop and tip anymore passes into INT's? Austin is a stud but the guy drank too much of his own koolaid. He thinks he's better then what he is right now. And thats a **** shame because he could be the best WR in the league if he only put in the concentration he did when he was trying to crack the lineup. If you ask me he's been the Worst of the WR's this yr. Forget Roys fumble vs the saints. Austin has killed so many drives this yr and given up so many INT's that im sure Austin alone is responsible for atleast 8 of the Cowboys ints, could be more.

Garrett might become a good HC someday. Maybe next yr, but it shouldnt be with the Cowboys. The team has not shown any change in direction that it had when Wade was HC. While he is smart, he easily gets outcoached. IMO Jerrys interview was telling. Not because of content he spoke about with the NFLN crew. But in his demeanor, up until then when ask asked Jerrys face and body language told the story about how he felt. He didnt sidestep questions. He didnt start off answers by saying "look Jason is very smart", We know hes smart hes ivy league. Now he looks open to suggestion. Open to change. Thats not saying Garrett wont be HC next yr. I just think Jerry doesnt know if he wants Garrett as HC anymore. Hell with the performances of this team it even has Jimmy Johnson thinking and saying on tv that he doesnt think Garrett will be back. And he knows Jerry like few do.

With all this said, I wouldnt hate Garrett as HC im sure Jerry could do alot worse. But if he just does his homework he could do better too. Honestly I just want to see Dallas back in the super bowl.:starspin

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I dont want to hear about how Garrett is playing with a backup QB. IMO Kitna has played just as good or better then Romo did at any part of the season. I dont want to hear about Romo played when Wade was coach, because Romo didnt answer to Wade. He answered to the guy who is HC now. Wade has nothing to do with the offense. Never has.

Why shouldn't you hear it? Kitna's numbers as a QB while Wade Phillips was coach were bad. 4 touchdowns vs. 6 interceptions with his two starts rendering QB ratings in the 60s. That doesn't seem very awesome to me.

Kitna's numbers peaked under Garrett the head coach. Since Kitna stunk under Coach Phillips and was "as good or better then Romo" as you stated, it doesn't take a whole lot of logic to make the conclusion that Romo's numbers would have been better as well. If Kitna has performed similar to Romo, it is natural that one can say that Romo under HC Garrett would have been much better than Romo under HC Phillips.

 

[zrinkill]

I dont want to hear about how Garrett is playing with a backup QB. IMO Kitna has played just as good or better then Romo

All I needed to hear.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I dont think so. A lot of the same problems remain. But that's not Garrett's fault. I think he has done a good job at least attempting to restore some order to this team. You cant change a culture in a matter of weeks. And for years this team has gotten away with being undisciplined and lacking attention to detail. Again, I give credit to Garrett for doing what any smart coach would do taking over this mess.

I'm essentially neutral on whether Garrett gets the job or not. I just hope every option is considered and the best candidate is selected. Sadly, with Jerry...

 

[ZeroClub]

The OL is horrible. Im not going to bash and blame Colombo like 99% of Cowboy fans. Yes he's getting beat on plays, but its not because of lack of effort. If you look at the game nobody on that offense line tries harder. He just doesnt have the legs anymore. Injuries early in his career cut his career in half. Its not his fault the team hasnt found somebody better to replace him. They tell him to go and play and he does it 100%. JUst happens that his 100% isnt good enough anymore.

I like how you phrased this about Columbo. He is at the end of his NFL career, clearly, but he's a warrior who is worthy of respect.

Sam Young was active for the game. Difficult to believe he'd have done much worse than Columbo. I'd have liked to see Young get a series or two.

 

[Hostile]

Why start a thread asking for opinions and then say you don't want to hear them? Why not talk to a wall then. Because the wall won't disagree with you.

A lot has changed under Garrett. All you have to do is listen to the players and it is obvious.

 

[Mansta54]

Why start a thread asking for opinions and then say you don't want to hear them? Why not talk to a wall then. Because the wall won't disagree with you.

A lot has changed under Garrett. All you have to do is listen to the players and it is obvious.

Of course a lot has changed under JG and I can't wait to see this team with a full off season and TC under him. He will have this team physically and mentally inshape next year. I also bet that we'll be a very physical running team as well with a full TC under JG. He did wonders in the little time he had this year. Not to mention, we'll have Romo back. JG has changed this team a bunch since he has taken over and its only just begun...

 

[Dhragon]

It's pointless pointing out Red's faults. He can do no wrong for so many on here it is astounding. Excuses flow like wine for the guy.

Red brought back discipline and accountability they say. He did better than 1-7 they say. They ignore the fact that discipline has been slipping of late and even if the players are still following the dress code, they are starting to play more and more sloppy once again.

Also, exactly where is this accountability - any such thing has certainly not been obvious enough for the average fan to see. Seems same old same old. We'll see if Beuhler is held accountable next week I guess. My guess is he won't be.

We are almost right back to where we were under Wade - can't even win against a really horrid team.

Even if Jason WAS all the things his fans think he is as far as culture-changing, disipline-inducing, etc, he is not a great playcaller. With Red calling the plays, even the most disciplined, well-oiled machine would be in danger each week of losing to average, bad teams.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why start a thread asking for opinions and then say you don't want to hear them? Why not talk to a wall then. Because the wall won't disagree with you.

A lot has changed under Garrett. All you have to do is listen to the players and it is obvious.

Part of a song called Caught in the Mosh by Antrhax...

Can't stand it for another day
I ain't gonna live my life this way
Cold sweat,my fists are clenching
Stomp,stomp,stomp the idiot convention

Which one of these words don't you understand?
I'm Caught in a Mosh!
Talking to you is like clapping with one hand

What is it?Caught in a Mosh!

 

[Dhragon]

Of course a lot has changed under JG and I can't wait to see this team with a full off season and TC under him. He will have this team physically and mentally inshape next year. I also bet that we'll be a very physical running team as well with a full TC under JG. He did wonders in the little time he had this year. Not to mention, we'll have Romo back. JG has changed this team a bunch since he has taken over and its only just begun...

He did wonders for the first few games - AGREED.

But how can the same wonderous team win against the Giants, Indy, and play the Saints so close almost lose to the Skins and really lose to the Cards?

Red's peak was reached in his first few games while the players were all jacked up following wade's dismissal. Now that time has healed some of that shock, they are slipping slowly but surely back to there old selves and Red is helpless against it. He is not the answer here.

 

[TheCount]

Change in itself was needed to get the players thinking positively about the future. Compared to under Wade, the attitude of the team is certainly different, the head coach seems more of a leader than Wade ever was. That's a good thing.

On the other hand, if you're asking if the team itself is different. Of course not. They seem like the same bumbling group they have been for some time and if course they are still wildly inconsistent in every aspect of the game.

Whatever it takes to get consistency out of this team, whether it's with Garrett or someone else, is what needs to happen.

 

[Mansta54]

He did wonders for the first few games - AGREED.

But how can the same wonderous team win against the Giants, Indy, and play the Saints so close almost lose to the Skins and really lose to the Cards?

Red's peak was reached in his first few games while the players were all jacked up following wade's dismissal. Now that time has healed some of that shock, they are slipping slowly but surely back to there old selves and Red is helpless against it. He is not the answer here.

Dude this is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. A lot of the board feels differently....

 

[noshame]

There's been one major change, I enjoy watching my team play football once again. It's been awhile.

 

[Mansta54]

There's been on major change, I enjoy watching my team play football once again. It's been awhile.

Yep!! And that's with a rush job of taking over the team in midseason. That's why I can't wait to see the team after a full off season and TC under JG....

 

[Doomsday101]

I like Garrett and have no problem if he gets named the HC but I do think Jerry owes it to the franchise to leave no rock unturned before he names the HC. Once he does name the HC that guy has to be the HC of the entire team not a OC or DC but a HC. What I mean by that is a man who is responsible for all phases of the game. If that man is Garrett fine but he has to be HC of everyone not one side of the ball or the other the buck has to stop with the HC

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Dude this is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. A lot of the board feels differently....

Im sure he thanks you for allowing him to have his opinion. Truth is, i think alot of the fan base is still a little skeptical, as am i. The first few games after Garrett took over looked great, but the past few weeks have been looking worse and worse, culminating with an embarassing loss to a lousy football team like the Cards.

I think Garrett should get a chance next year, a chance to see what he can do with his own staff put in place here, which needs to include coordinators with mucho experience. At this point in time, i can't say my confidence is very high that he'll be a highly successful HC though. He's done some things ive been impressed with, and some i'm not so impressed by. I think for most the jury is still out.

 

[Mansta54]

Im sure he thanks you for allowing him to have his opinion. Truth is, i think alot of the fan base is still a little skeptical, as am i. The first few games after Garrett took over looked great, but the past few weeks have been looking worse and worse, culminating with an embarassing loss to a lousy football team like the Cards.

I think Garrett should get a chance next year, a chance to see what he can do with his own staff put in place here, which needs to include coordinators with mucho experience. At this point in time, i can't say my confidence is very high that he'll be a highly successful HC though. He's done some things ive been impressed with, and some i'm not so impressed by. I think for most the jury is still out.

Well I'm glad you're speaking for him. Thx!!!

 

[30yrheel]

the players are playing harder but still losing.the cowboys have 5 seasons of 10 or more losses since 2000, worst record in the nfc east.
i'm ready for a major house cleaning.

 

[sean5340]

This team needs a legit GM first and foremost. Someone who can work closely with the HC on personnel decisions. Until then there will be issues with players and schemes. The two go hand in hand. You need players who fit the HC's vision and scheme. JMO

 

[Doomsday101]

This team needs a legit GM first and foremost. Someone who can work closely with the HC on personnel decisions. Until then there will be issues with players and schemes. The two go hand in hand. You need players who fit the HC's vision and scheme. JMO

I think since BP came to Dallas Jerry has tried to get them the players the HC wants. I see enough evidence of BP and Wade brining in players they wanted and getting players resigned. I don't take all blame away from Jerry but I do think over the last few years Jerry has gone with guys the HC are interested in.