Has anything changed?

[Mansta54]

I think since BP came to Dallas Jerry has tried to get them the players the HC wants. I see enough evidence of BP and Wade brining in players they wanted and getting players resigned. I don't take all blame away from Jerry but I do think over the last few years Jerry has gone with guys the HC are interested in.

Very well said and JJ also loaded this team with talent but WP with his soft undiscipline ways allowed it to go bad. JJ's fault was keeping WP around a year too long. He should've been gone after the Philly blowout in Philly to end the season. There's plenty of talent on this team, it just needs discipline and hard work to get into good football shape. I still don't believe this team was in football shape all year. JG tried to get them there by putting them in full pads and making them hit, that's so important but it was too late... He'll have them ready with a full TC under his belt...

 

[JPM]

Part of a song called Caught in the Mosh by Antrhax...

Can't stand it for another day
I ain't gonna live my life this way
Cold sweat,my fists are clenching
Stomp,stomp,stomp the idiot convention

Which one of these words don't you understand?
I'm Caught in a Mosh!
Talking to you is like clapping with one hand

What is it?Caught in a Mosh!

I am Scott Ian's chin hair and I approve this message.

 

[nflandbooze]

With all this said, I wouldnt hate Garrett as HC im sure Jerry could do alot worse. But if he just does his homework he could do better too. Honestly I just want to see Dallas back in the super bowl.:starspin

You know, I often don't agree with Prime on the NFLN, but after Jason's first win he said something that stuck with me, and now I believe it. He suggested that they aren't scared or motivated by Jason now that Wade's gone. He said that they're scared and motivated by the thought of leaving Dallas, of losing their job, of not having it made in the shade down there.

Now, when he said that, I thought he was just trying to be controversial. Over the weeks, I've changed my tune. I still see sloppy play out there. The only improvement I really see, is that the O-line is a little better (which is sad since they're still weak), and we all know the reason behind that, and that's the one area I think we can give Garrett some kudos for.

Outside of that, I think Jason is a smart guy that might be a good HC somewhere, some day, I just don't think Dallas is the place. That job is way too big for him, and I 100% guarantee he's not going to take them to the Super Bowl in his tenure... well, not unless Jerry goes into a coma or something, and then all bets are off.

 

[LatinMind]

I like how you phrased this about Columbo. He is at the end of his NFL career, clearly, but he's a warrior who is worthy of respect.

Sam Young was active for the game. Difficult to believe he'd have done much worse than Columbo. I'd have liked to see Young get a series or two.

Colombo IMO is more of a symbol of what this team needs. More heart. I just wish his health was there. Its a shame to see him know where he wants to send his man and have him go that way but not have the movement to keep him away from the qb.

 

[ZeroClub]

A positive about Garrett as head coach is that he'd have no honeymoon period.

If next year's team fails to finish above .500, Garret will be one and done. And, in the process, Jerry will have finally hit rock bottom again.

Jerry had to hit rock bottom before he was willing to hire Parcells and take a step back. In so doing, Jerry gave the team a chance to get back on the right track.

IMO, Jerry hasn't truly hit bottom this time around. ... he's not yet ready to take that critical step back so as to allow his head coach sufficient room to work.

Which means that things will have to get worse before they get better.

... enter the sacrificial lamb. Good luck young Jason.

 

[LatinMind]

You know, I often don't agree with Prime on the NFLN, but after Jason's first win he said something that stcuk with me, and now I believe it. He suggested that they aren't scared or motivated by Jason now that Wade's gone. He said that they're scared and motivated by the thought of leaving Dallas, of losing their job, of not having it made in the shade down there.

Now, when he said that, I thought he was just trying to be controversial. Over the weeks, I've changed my tune. I still see sloppy play out there. The only improvement I really see, is that the O-line is a little better (which is sad since they're still weak), and we all knw the reason behind that, and that's the one area I think we can give Garrett some kudos for.

Outside of that, I think Jason is a smart guy that might be a good HC somewhere, some day, I just don't think Dallas is the place. That job is way too big for him, and I 100% guarantee he's not going to take them to the Super Bowl in his tenure... well, not unless Jerry goes into a coma or something, and then all bets are off.

Exactly, people think because the team hustled a little more its all praise to Garrett, it couldnt possibly be more about them knowing they could lose their job.

Ill give Garrett kudos for adjusting a little on the offensive direction with Kitna. The OL didnt really get better. Theyre just not asked to block as long as they were with Romo because Kitna doesnt have the arm to go downfield. The balls out of his hands alot sooner then it would be with Romo.

I agree too, the Dallas job is too big and too controversial for him. The Cowboys arent the Rams, Ravens, or any other average franchise. The Cowboys are an institution in sports. Like the Yankees, Lakers and Celtics. Its clear he's in over his head. And i wish him the best and hope he succeeds. But like Jimmy i dont think it will be in Dallas

 

[Dhragon]

Dude this is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. A lot of the board feels differently....

All this is opinion. I just don't feel the need to put IMO after everything I write is all.

And tell me about it, this board STILL seems awash with love for Garrett. You have that right. I fully expected more anti-Reds to show up after our team has now become once again a bumbling, mistake prone team like under Wade. Instead, you guys keep making more and more escuses in order to defend your premature declaration that Red is the new Sean Payton. I obviously, do not think he is and feel the need to offset some of the unreasonable "Red is Great" love on here with what IMO (lol) is another possible view of the matter.

 

[Mansta54]

All this is opinion. I just don't feel the need to put IMO after everything I write is all.

And tell me about it, this board STILL seems awash with love for Garrett. You have that right. I fully expected more anti-Reds to show up after our team has now become once again a bumbling, mistake prone team like under Wade. Instead, you guys keep making more and more escuses in order to defend your premature declaration that Red is the new Sean Payton. I obviously, do not think he is and feel the need to offset some of the unreasonable "Red is Great" love on here with what IMO (lol) is another possible view of the matter.

Have at it, do your thing man...

 

[Dhragon]

Im sure he thanks you for allowing him to have his opinion. Truth is, i think alot of the fan base is still a little skeptical, as am i. The first few games after Garrett took over looked great, but the past few weeks have been looking worse and worse, culminating with an embarassing loss to a lousy football team like the Cards.

I think Garrett should get a chance next year, a chance to see what he can do with his own staff put in place here, which needs to include coordinators with mucho experience. At this point in time, i can't say my confidence is very high that he'll be a highly successful HC though. He's done some things ive been impressed with, and some i'm not so impressed by. I think for most the jury is still out.

Thanks for the support.

The problem with letting him "have a chance" though is that you really can't just give him one year of that chance. You need to give him a minimum of two years to prove it. That is two years off of Romos career he will never get back to get to the big dance if Red has as much struggles being a HC as he still does as OC.

With the right OC and DC and Red just being an overseer of sorts, I'd feel much better than if Red remained OC as well as HC, but even then I have started to have big doubts about it.

Face it, Red will have NO control over Jerry - NONE (face it, he has absolutely no leverage). This is bad news I'm afraid. Only a big name retread will be able to exert any influence and constraints against our "beloved" owner. That is why I'm firmly on the RETREAD FOR HC express. It's our only chance IMO.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd like to know where all this "increased discipline" I keep reading about is. Many posters have cited it, but where is the evidence on the field? Seven fumbles -- seven! -- in one game... Easy drops by WRs leading to interceptions... Crushing fumbles to lose the game in crunch time... Multiple false starts in short yardage situations... Stupid celebration penalties after touchdowns... Players not seeing any consequences for terrible mistakes... General failure to put away some of the worst teams in this league... All of it has been on display the last month.

I honestly wonder what the claims are talking about, because I don't see it. I really think it's simply media reports about superficial things like standing behind a lectern and speaking clearly during press conferences.

 

[Dhragon]

I'd like to know where all this "increased discipline" I keep reading about is. Many posters have cited it, but where is the evidence on the field? Seven fumbles -- seven! -- in one game... Easy drops by WRs leading to interceptions... Crushing fumbles to lose the game in crunch time... Multiple false starts in short yardage situations... Stupid celebration penalties after touchdowns... Players not seeing any consequences for terrible mistakes... General failure to put away some of the worst teams in this league... All of it has been on display the last month.

I honestly wonder what the claims are talking about, because I don't see it. I really think it's simply media reports about superficial things like standing behind a lectern and speaking clearly during press conferences.

The players all wear ties and dress up for Red now before and after games - that's the big discipline thing. Another one - I'm stumped.

 

[30yrheel]

different coach, same dumb players.

 

[wileedog]

I'd like to know where all this "increased discipline" I keep reading about is. Many posters have cited it, but where is the evidence on the field? Seven fumbles -- seven! -- in one game... Easy drops by WRs leading to interceptions... Crushing fumbles to lose the game in crunch time... Multiple false starts in short yardage situations... Stupid celebration penalties after touchdowns... Players not seeing any consequences for terrible mistakes... General failure to put away some of the worst teams in this league... All of it has been on display the last month..

 

[Dodger]

different coach, same dumb players.

I'm inclined to lean in this direction, especially after watching Barber remove his helmet the other day while still on the field. Seriously, what an idiot.

 

[Kangaroo]

I'd like to know where all this "increased discipline" I keep reading about is. Many posters have cited it, but where is the evidence on the field? Seven fumbles -- seven! -- in one game... Easy drops by WRs leading to interceptions... Crushing fumbles to lose the game in crunch time... Multiple false starts in short yardage situations... Stupid celebration penalties after touchdowns... Players not seeing any consequences for terrible mistakes... General failure to put away some of the worst teams in this league... All of it has been on display the last month.

I honestly wonder what the claims are talking about, because I don't see it. I really think it's simply media reports about superficial things like standing behind a lectern and speaking clearly during press conferences.

yes one terrible game overall since jason has taken over does not make the team undisciplined. I mean is Indy undisciplined because they turned the Ball over against us a lot. I mean overall penalties and turnovers have been down. Does that mean every game is going to be perfect ?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Thanks for the support.

The problem with letting him "have a chance" though is that you really can't just give him one year of that chance. You need to give him a minimum of two years to prove it. That is two years off of Romos career he will never get back to get to the big dance if Red has as much struggles being a HC as he still does as OC.

With the right OC and DC and Red just being an overseer of sorts, I'd feel much better than if Red remained OC as well as HC, but even then I have started to have big doubts about it.

Face it, Red will have NO control over Jerry - NONE (face it, he has absolutely no leverage). This is bad news I'm afraid. Only a big name retread will be able to exert any influence and constraints against our "beloved" owner. That is why I'm firmly on the RETREAD FOR HC express. It's our only chance IMO.

I just don't see anyone available that would have a much better chance of doing more than Garrett can possibly do. I would be willing to give him two years. If we do bring in somebody, i'd like to see Harbaugh or Fisher. Gruden or Cowher would be ok i guess. Honestly, whoever the new coach is, i just hope alot of consideration goes into the decision.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

The players all wear ties and dress up for Red now before and after games - that's the big discipline thing. Another one - I'm stumped.

They also form a perfectly straight line for the national anthem.. like Leon Phelps in The Ladies Man straight. Its kinda a big deal..

 

[TNCowboy]

The team is (mostly) trying now. That's the biggest difference.

Whether or not that translates into Garrett displaying that he can be a successful NFL HC in the long-term, I don't know.

 

[TNCowboy]

They also form a perfectly straight line for the national anthem.. like Leon Phelps in The Ladies Man straight. Its kinda a big deal..

I think that is a big deal.

 

[Dhragon]

They also form a perfectly straight line for the national anthem.. like Leon Phelps in The Ladies Man straight. Its kinda a big deal..

Forgot about that - very important.