Has this been reported about Jaylon?

[waldoputty]

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article140986773.html


The Cowboys are excited and confident as well. So much so that they have not only cleared him to start the off-season program with the team April 21 but they plan on him going through organized team activities, minicamp, training camp and playing in 2017.

Executive vice president Stephen Jones said the confidence in Smith being a major contributor is very high within the Cowboys organization even though he can’t name anyone who has played with a brace for drop foot.

“And you don’t know how long he is going to have to have the brace,” Jones said. “Our guys are getting real comfortable that he can be a great contributor with a brace.But he may not have the brace. But our guys feel comfortable after working with him that he can play with the brace. I’m not so sure he will have to play with the brace. It’s not a given. We will see.”

And regarding the nerve damage, Jones remains optimistic that it will continue to improve and go away because some feeling has already come back.

“Once that stuff usually starts to fire, which it did, then it usually improves each time,” Jones said.


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...rner-blog/article140986773.html#storylink=cpy

 

[tyke1doe]

And a way we go!

 

[Kaiser]

In other words, he is the starting Mike right now and should improve significantly before training camp starts.

 

[waldoputty]

In other words, he is the starting Mike right now and should improve significantly before training camp starts.

i have no idea. i google jaylon regularly and this is probably the most explicit statement i have seen to date.
though i have gotten sick of the tweets, but this seems different.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Sounds like it's started to fire, but will take a while (or worst case, never) for the muscle to respond back to 100%. It has been a year since he lost nerve control of the muscle, I'm sure it will take time to get the strength back. The brace would still be needed if the muscle is still only at a certain percent of nerve feeling (or whatever the doctor word is for it), they're probably hoping by ota's it's at a percentage high enough that the brace isn't needed anymore. That would be beautiful.

But the improvements may not continue or may plateau, which is why people still talk about issues with playing with a brace full time. But I don't think it's about the nerve not firing at all, from what we've read recently.

 

[AsthmaField]

#ClearEyeView

 

[AsthmaField]

Seriously, this is the first time anyone with the team has said that the nerve has indeed started to fire. And Stephen is right... once it starts, the healing is usually only a matter of time.

I mean, maybe Jerry has already said this but I can't really understand what Jerry is trying to say when he talks... so this is news to me.

Terrific news. Coming from Stephen it is even better because he is no BS. He doesn't try double speak and what he says is always legit.

I did know that Smith had been cleared for OTA's, etc.

 

[waldoputty]

Sounds like it's started to fire, but will take a while (or worst case, never) for the muscle to respond 100%. It has been a year since he lost nerve control of the muscle, I'm sure that will take time to get strength back. The brace would still be needed if the muscle is still only at a certain percent of nerve feeling, they're probably hoping by Ota it's at a percentage that the brace isn't needed.

But the improvements may not continue or may plateau, which is people still talk about issues with playing with a brace full time. But I don't think it's about the nerve not firing at all, from what we've read.

the problem is what they mean by firing
the nerve always fire so it is whether the signal gets to the muscle.
if they mean firing by the muscle able to move better or do they mean something else

 

[Kaiser]

i have no idea. i google jaylon regularly and this is probably the most explicit statement i have seen to date.
though i have gotten sick of the tweets, but this seems different.

I wasn't arguing, but I think that its pretty much a lock that Jaylon Smith with a brace is still the starter over Hitchens right now.

 

[waldoputty]

I wasn't arguing, but I think that its pretty much a lock that Jaylon Smith with a brace is still the starter over Hitchens right now.

i know you were not arguing. i just saw this and was curious if there was such a clear statement from the FO (other than Jerry).

 

[waldoputty]

#ClearEyeView

what does that mean?
i dont have a twitter account...

 

[AsthmaField]

what does that mean?
i dont have a twitter account...

Smith just always puts it at the end of all his tweets.

I was just being silly... which is why I posted the other where I was seriously addressing the subject matter.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

the problem is what they mean by firing
the nerve always fire so it is whether the signal gets to the muscle.
if they mean firing by the muscle able to move better or do they mean something else

I'm going to go with "mean something else."

Because obviously they don't mean... Well the nerve always fires so it's firing and a fire it will.

 

[waldoputty]

Smith just always puts it at the end of all his tweets.

I was just being silly... which is why I posted the other where I was seriously addressing the subject matter.

oh the marketing crap... ok

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

the problem is what they mean by firing
the nerve always fire so it is whether the signal gets to the muscle.
if they mean firing by the muscle able to move better or do they mean something else

The signal would have to be going to the muscle, it's just no where near 100%, but improving. Otherwise he wouldn't say,

"I’m not so sure he will have to play with the brace. It’s not a given. We will see"

If they were still waiting for it to fire (as in the muscle responding to it) at this point, it would be almost disastrous, but he has hope he won't need the brace, again, if it improves to a point, percentage wise, that it's not needed.

It's just a hope now it keeps improving. Even if he starts ota's with a brace, maybe by the time camp rolls around it's improved to not needing it.

 

[AsthmaField]

the problem is what they mean by firing
the nerve always fire so it is whether the signal gets to the muscle.
if they mean firing by the muscle able to move better or do they mean something else

I'm sure they don't mean "it is firing... but it always fires... it just doesn't reach the muscle."

What he obviously means is that is it improving ie. getting feeling, getting some response, etc. To say it is firing and mean actually it hasn't improved would be duplicitous and pretty much a blatant lie. There's no reason for Stephen to say that. He clearly meant there has been improvement.

 

[waldoputty]

The signal would have to be going to the muscle, it's just no where near 100%, but improving. Otherwise he wouldn't say,

"I’m not so sure he will have to play with the brace. It’s not a given. We will see"

If they were still waiting for it to fire at this point, it would be almost disastrous, but he has hope he won't need the brace, again, if it improves to a point, percentage wise, that it's not needed.

It's just a hope now it keeps improving. Even if he starts ota's with a brace, maybe by the time camp rolls around it's improved to not needing it.

there are many different ways to interpret those videos and everything else we have seen.
it could be he performed some of those without a brace because no one can see it.
it could mean much less.
when he was doing all those tweet in sept/oct, i would think some nerve got to some muscle.
but they are not releasing a detailed report...

 

[waldoputty]

I'm sure they don't mean "it is firing... but it always fires... it just doesn't reach the muscle."

What he obviously means is that is it improving ie. getting feeling, getting some response, etc. To say it is firing and mean actually it hasn't improved would be duplicitous and pretty much a blatant lie. There's no reason for Stephen to say that. He clearly meant there has been improvement.

well he did say getting feeling.
only that is the sensory neuron they are talking about and not the motor neuron.
just because he can sense does not mean he can move...

 

[AsthmaField]

well he did say getting feeling.
only that is the sensory neuron they are talking about and not the motor neuron.
just because he can sense does not mean he can move...

Indeed.

Only they know the extent. He clearly means improvement though... we just don't know how much.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

This article was out this morning, I was figuring someone else would post it then so I didn't. It was lost amongst everything else Stephen said earlier today.

I take it as a positive but with a grain of salt. Its probably getting better, sounds good, and maybe the brace is a precaution. Depends on how you want to look at it I guess.