Has this been reported about Jaylon?

CalPolyTechnique

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This still says literally nothing.

I think the telling part is Stephen talking/insinuating that Jaylon is seemingly at a point where he may not need the brace, although he kept hedging what he was saying.

I would assume if it wasn't really the case he wouldn't mention it at all.
 

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Lol, the irony...

You got caught flat-out lying, verified by linked posts w/date & times, felt embarrassed and you sulked away trying to distance yourself.

What a few weeks makes though; now you're right back making the same bogus claims.

What a schtick.

Lying about what? You quoted the post where you changed your stance and act like that was your original position. Your problem was when I posted your posts from the days before that where you said there had been no recovery in the peroneal. The thread in question was locked. Try and keep up.

Lied? Like you could prove intent over the interwebs. I have no issue admitting when I make a mistake; people around here have read me do it like when I corrected myself about the hurdles. You are the one that acts like you accomplished something when I do though. What a maroon.

You're obviously still quite chapped about the issue is what I get from this.

Oh and he has regained activation of his foot just like I said last month. Deal with it.
 

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Lying about what? You quoted the post where you changed your stance and act like that was your original position. Your problem was when I posted your posts from the days before that where you said there had been no recovery in the peroneal. The thread in question was locked. Try and keep up.

Lied? Like you could prove intent over the interwebs. I have no issue admitting when I make a mistake; people around here have read me do it like when I corrected myself about the hurdles. You are the one that acts like you accomplished something when I do though. What a maroon.

You're obviously still quite chapped about the issue is what I get from this.

Oh and he has regained activation of his foot just like I said last month. Deal with it.

Thanks for unknowingly providing me my new signature.

"What a maroon."

Loooool, some folks can't help but run smack dab into irony.

You ask "lying about what?" Then proceed right into spewing out a series of lies ("you changed your stance...you said there was no recovery in the peroneal nerve"). Again, irony.

The grandest of your lies was saved for last when you claimed that you admit when you're wrong.

No you don't.

You vacate the thread, obfuscate, lie (see your most recent claims), act like the answer wasn't provided (and then ask for it again...), threaten to put people on ignore (i.e. pretentious posturing), anything but actually admitting you're wrong.

[BTW, I corrected you about the hurdles. You then subsequently claimed to "self-corrected" yourself from that point on.]
 
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Thanks for unknowingly providing me my new signature.

"What a maroon."

Loooool, some folks can't help but run smack dab into irony.

You ask "lying about what?" Then proceed right into spewing out a series of lies ("you changed your stance...you said there was no recovery in the peroneal nerve"). Again, irony.

The grandest of your lies was saved for last when you claimed that you admit when you're wrong.

No you don't.

You vacate the thread, obfuscate, lie (see your most recent claims), act like the answer wasn't provided (and then ask for it again...), threaten to put people on ignore (i.e. pretentious posturing), anything but actually admitting you're wrong.

[BTW, I corrected you about the hurdles. You then subsequently claimed to "self-corrected" yourself from that point on.]
You very well be the originator of the alternative facts movement.
 
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Thanks for unknowingly providing me my new signature.

"What a maroon."

Loooool, some folks can't help but run smack dab into irony.

You ask "lying about what?" Then proceed right into spewing out a series of lies ("you changed your stance...you said there was no recovery in the peroneal nerve"). Again, irony.

The grandest of your lies was saved for last when you claimed that you admit when you're wrong.

No you don't.

You vacate the thread, obfuscate, lie (see your most recent claims), act like the answer wasn't provided (and then ask for it again...), threaten to put people on ignore (i.e. pretentious posturing), anything but actually admitting you're wrong.

[BTW, I corrected you about the hurdles. You then subsequently claimed to "self-corrected" yourself from that point on.]

Here is the post where I correct myself.

Foot down on the way up

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Flat foot at top of jump

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Down again to land on balls of feet.

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You can stop the video in the OP and advance if frame by frame to see Jaylon bend his ankle to push his foott down and the pick it back up through the range of motion.

I was mistaken about the trampolines. He is just jumping over hurdles.

Link where you corrected me before that. Also this flies in the face of you claiming that I lie about admitting a mistake.

Now on the contrary we have you haranguing me over "ignoring" Fisher and Chao's reports of no improvement as well as you flat out saying there was no improvement. When it became obvious you were wrong you changed your tune but that is just typical disingenuousness we have come to know and expect from you.

You were still wrong.
 

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We used a high 2nd round pick on this kid. There were basically three possibilities:
1. Fully recovers and becomes steal of a decade
2. Recovers enough to contribute
3. Never plays again

Right now, it looks like he's made it to #2, I'll take it for now. Let's keep our fingers crossed that a move to #1 is in his near future.
 

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i have no idea. i google jaylon regularly and this is probably the most explicit statement i have seen to date.
though i have gotten sick of the tweets, but this seems different.
It's so weird how messages can be perceived differently given the audience. I absolutely loved every single one of his uplifting positive prayerful status updating tweets.
 

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I only have one thing to say. All the doubters in here crying at what a stupid pick it was going after Jaylon. :thumbdown::lmao: :popcorn:
 

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Sounds like it's started to fire, but will take a while (or worst case, never) for the muscle to respond back to 100%. It has been a year since he lost nerve control of the muscle, I'm sure it will take time to get the strength back. The brace would still be needed if the muscle is still only at a certain percent of nerve feeling (or whatever the doctor word is for it), they're probably hoping by ota's it's at a percentage high enough that the brace isn't needed anymore. That would be beautiful.

But the improvements may not continue or may plateau, which is why people still talk about issues with playing with a brace full time. But I don't think it's about the nerve not firing at all, from what we've read recently.

Yep.

And this is just anecdotal but I was at a party a couple of weeks ago and was talking to a friend of a friend. Big Ravens fan. We started talking and Smith came up. Turns out this guy had a similar injury to Smith. Now granted he was not a NFL player but he wore a brace for almost two years. His nerve came back slowly and took almost 3 years to get most of his feeling, mobility back.

So again, fans writing timelines in stone here are probably wrong.
 

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This team should still go after a LB in the draft. Can't have enough good LBs in this scheme.

I wouldn't hold my breath unless it's a hybrid LB that can rush the passer like Reddick (Who won't fall to us at 28).

We have 6 draft picks and need to spend maybe 4 of them on DL and DB.
 

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a blitzing LB would not be bad.
we could always play a 3-3-5 in a passing down.
easier to get one of these than a DE

For a LB to blitz here Marinelli would have to shift his philosophy. We don't blitz a lot.
 

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Check the tape. I've been saying that for weeks.

Exactly if people would watch how he has been training was there any doubt about Jaylon being ready for the season? Did Stephen Jones really have to spoon feed some of the guys in here? This kid is going to be a monster for us. His will, fight, and determination to succeed and show the doubters that they were wrong is epic.
 

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Seriously, this is the first time anyone with the team has said that the nerve has indeed started to fire. And Stephen is right... once it starts, the healing is usually only a matter of time.

I mean, maybe Jerry has already said this but I can't really understand what Jerry is trying to say when he talks... so this is news to me.

Terrific news. Coming from Stephen it is even better because he is no BS. He doesn't try double speak and what he says is always legit.

I did know that Smith had been cleared for OTA's, etc.

I agree. The rest we had learned, but it was never clear that the nerve had started firing. No one would just come out and say it.
 

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Exactly if people would watch how he has been training was there any doubt about Jaylon being ready for the season? Did Stephen Jones really have to spoon feed some of the guys in here? This kid is going to be a monster for us. His will, fight, and determination to succeed and show the doubters that they were wrong is epic.

There's a difference in him playing with a brace and him playing with full feeling. It seemed pretty clear that he was going to play anyway based on what we've seen, but it has never been clear that he could be at full health when he does it.
 

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article140986773.html


The Cowboys are excited and confident as well. So much so that they have not only cleared him to start the off-season program with the team April 21 but they plan on him going through organized team activities, minicamp, training camp and playing in 2017.

Executive vice president Stephen Jones said the confidence in Smith being a major contributor is very high within the Cowboys organization even though he can’t name anyone who has played with a brace for drop foot.

“And you don’t know how long he is going to have to have the brace,” Jones said. “Our guys are getting real comfortable that he can be a great contributor with a brace.But he may not have the brace. But our guys feel comfortable after working with him that he can play with the brace. I’m not so sure he will have to play with the brace. It’s not a given. We will see.”

And regarding the nerve damage, Jones remains optimistic that it will continue to improve and go away because some feeling has already come back.

“Once that stuff usually starts to fire, which it did, then it usually improves each time,” Jones said.


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...rner-blog/article140986773.html#storylink=cpy

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