Hassan Reddick and the 3-3-5

[NorthwestDallas40]

I'm warming to the idea of picking Reddick at 28 because of his versatility (and because I heard a Sirius NFL interview of him today; really good kid; was injured junior and senior year of high school and was not recruited; so walked on to Temple and had to earn a scholarship)... if our major problem was rushing the passer on 3rd down, I could see a 3-3-5 scheme with D Law, Irving, and T Craw at DL and Jaylon-Lee-Reddick at LB. Either Jaylon or Reddick would bring the edge pressure, and offenses would not know which (sometimes could be both). Might have the effect of creating edge pressure immediately without having to reach for a DE. And bonus is he's a very good SLB on 1st and 2nd down.

 

[revospeed]

I'm warming to the idea of picking Reddick at 28 because of his versatility (and because I heard a Sirius NFL interview of him today; really good kid; was injured junior and senior year of high school and was not recruited; so walked on to Temple and had to earn a scholarship)... if our major problem was rushing the passer on 3rd down, I could see a 3-3-5 scheme with D Law, Irving, and T Craw at DL and Jaylon-Lee-Reddick at LB. Either Jaylon or Reddick would bring the edge pressure, and offenses would not know which (sometimes could be both). Might have the effect of creating edge pressure immediately without having to reach for a DE. And bonus is he's a very good SLB on 1st and 2nd down.

I like Reddick and would applaud the pick at 28 because i have my doubts about Jaylon, but I doubt we go to the 3-3-5. It would be nice to see that type of creativity as opposed to the same look fronts, series in, series out. But marinelli is stuck in his ways.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

I like Reddick and would applaud the pick at 28 because i have my doubts about Jaylon, but I doubt we go to the 3-3-5. It would be nice to see that type of creativity as opposed to the same look fronts, series in, series out. But marinelli is stuck in his ways.

I'm just talking about 3rd downs, and we've already shown the 3 man DL, so not too much of a stretch

 

[waldoputty]

I'm warming to the idea of picking Reddick at 28 because of his versatility (and because I heard a Sirius NFL interview of him today; really good kid; was injured junior and senior year of high school and was not recruited; so walked on to Temple and had to earn a scholarship)... if our major problem was rushing the passer on 3rd down, I could see a 3-3-5 scheme with D Law, Irving, and T Craw at DL and Jaylon-Lee-Reddick at LB. Either Jaylon or Reddick would bring the edge pressure, and offenses would not know which (sometimes could be both). Might have the effect of creating edge pressure immediately without having to reach for a DE. And bonus is he's a very good SLB on 1st and 2nd down.

i think we have played quite a bit of 3-3-5
even if jaylon is good, we need at least 2 good pass rushers.
how does he compare to watt?

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

i think we have played quite a bit of 3-3-5
even if jaylon is good, we need at least 2 good pass rushers.
how does he compare to watt?

i think watt is bigger and stronger and better bull rush, but i like reddick's athleticism, versatility, and ability to bend the edge on pass rush

 

[waldoputty]

i think watt is bigger and stronger and better bull rush, but i like reddick's athleticism, versatility, and ability to bend the edge on pass rush

how fast is reddick?
jaylon is more than bend/edge
we may need someone good at a-gap?
so bull rush is more important - or not?

 

[Kolemmitt]

I'm warming to the idea of picking Reddick at 28 because of his versatility (and because I heard a Sirius NFL interview of him today; really good kid; was injured junior and senior year of high school and was not recruited; so walked on to Temple and had to earn a scholarship)... if our major problem was rushing the passer on 3rd down, I could see a 3-3-5 scheme with D Law, Irving, and T Craw at DL and Jaylon-Lee-Reddick at LB. Either Jaylon or Reddick would bring the edge pressure, and offenses would not know which (sometimes could be both). Might have the effect of creating edge pressure immediately without having to reach for a DE. And bonus is he's a very good SLB on 1st and 2nd down.

This is my pet cat. He very easily could be our Vic Beasley. He is a play maker and would be ready to make plays year one, game one, which is what our defense needs. With Reddick, Lee, and (hopefully) Smith we would have three linebackers that could effectively bring the heat on any down (not to mention Scandrick, who is a terror coming off of the slot) and then on passing downs he can put his hand down or come from anywhere. I think this is what we imagined when we almost got Shazier a few years ago.

 

[rkell87]

We draft guys that fit what we do and that's it. I'm sure what you are proposing could benefit us but it's not what we do and won't do consistently enough to warrant him for that role. If he fits what we already do(he does) then I'm all for it, kid can play.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I love the player but another player you better have a plan for accordingly!

 

[Gaede]

One of my top guys as well.

 

[Hardline]

He had a faster 40 time than all but 4 running backs at the combine.

 

[tm1119]

I love the player but another player you better have a plan for accordingly!

Why would you need a plan for a guy that fits perfectly at either MLB or WIL?

 

[Killerinstinct]

I am warming to the idea too but it is sickening to me. The reason I am warming to it is because of the drop foot and Jaylon. Instead of filling another need we could replace last years no 34 pick with this years pick 28.

 

[ctrous25]

The 3-3 stack is a good scheme in HS and college for sure. It disguises blitzes and you can do many different alignments up from with the D line. Dallas did some unique nickel/dime packages this year that at times looked a bit like the 3-3-5 but weren't. I do like the ideal of 3rd and long with Reddick coming from all over the place with disguised blitzes

 

[Derinyar]

Why would you need a plan for a guy that fits perfectly at either MLB or WIL?

Because he doesn't fit perfectly at those. He's still a little on the small side, a lot on the small side for MLB.

If you believe mockdraftables for MLB he's 32% on height and 22% on weight. Comes in basically flipped at an OLB position. And as far as EDGE players he's bottom of the barrel in size. Smaller players can be useful, but you have to have a plan for them because they tend to get blocked more easily and hurt more if they have to take on big uglys consistently.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Why would you need a plan for a guy that fits perfectly at either MLB or WIL?

Probably because they played Reddick primarily as an edge player at Temple this past season standing up or with his hand on the ground as a DE while only occassionaly playing him as an off the ball lb and when they did he was primarily used as a spy, limiting his opportunities to demonstrate his ability in coverage.

Before you make the critical mistake concerning his weight, they drafted Randy Gregory who many thought was a 3-4 LB due to his size of 235 and plugged him in at RDE regardless.

They also use Benson Mayowa who is 240 at RDE, so Reddick, if drafted by the Cowboys would probably be a RDE and not a Will and especially not a MLB.

Although some may see him as a 3-4 OLB or a Will in the NFL, some may want him to gain 10-15 pounds (he is 237) and play as an undersized edge player or in the Cowboys case, would throw him right in the mix with no problem at his current size.

 

[RS12]

LB is just a big a need as anything else IMO. If he's the guy, he's the guy.

 

[Alexander]

The plus about Reddick is that if there are issues with Jaylon Smith, there are still two quality LBers that could start in base.

 

[RS12]

The plus about Reddick is that if there are issues with Jaylon Smith, there are still two quality LBers that could start in base.

If? Former Patriot team Dr came out yesterday and his opinion was less than optimisitic.

 

[Derinyar]

Probably because they played Reddick primarily as an edge player at Temple this past season standing up or with his hand on the ground as a DE while only occassionaly playing him as an off the ball lb and when they did he was primarily used as a spy, limiting his opportunities to demonstrate his ability in coverage.

Before you make the critical mistake concerning his weight, they drafted Randy Gregory who many thought was a 3-4 LB due to his size of 235 and plugged him in at RDE regardless.

They also use Benson Mayowa who is 240 at RDE, so Reddick, if drafted by the Cowboys would probably be a RDE and not a Will and especially not a MLB.

Although some may see him as a 3-4 OLB or a Will in the NFL, some may want him to gain 10-15 pounds (he is 237) and play as an undersized edge player or in the Cowboys case, would throw him right in the mix with no problem at his current size.

There are two big physical differences between Reddick and Gregory that makes Gregory more likely to be a 4-3 DE. Gregory is taller and his arms are significantly longer. Basically there's a reasonable chance the Cowboys thought Gregory could add some weight to his frame and not lose too much and long arms are better for pass rushers.