Hate to admit it: Anthony Spencer

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I hate to admit this, but it might be prudent to bring Anthony Spencer back with a contract shaped similarly to that of Henry Melton, but certainly more limited in scope given his age and the fact that he was given 20 million dollars, 10 of which he didn't earn a dime of.

Normally I would be completely against bringing Anthony Spencer back. I want entirely new blood on this defensive line, it's beyond time, but then it dawned on me. if we could get Spencer for a deal similar to Melton's in which we take no long term risk if he doesn't pan out (and also don't really pay him for the first year), he would be motivated to play extremely well, and finish his rehab as soon as possible. Two years ago he was our best defensive player. Low risk, high reward.

That isn't the only reason why I've changed my mind. I've been thinking of the difficulty of getting two defensive ends out of this draft and trying to incorporate them into the starting lineup. It's a lot to ask for. And quite frankly in the first round if CJ Mosley is available, I think he might be able to help this defense more short term and long term than any of the defensive ends we might get in the first round. Bruce Carter is in his contract year, we should see what he has to him, if there is anything. Sean Lee, CJ Mosley, and Bruce Carter (playing up to potential) could be a pretty great linebacker corps. Of course this is assuming he makes it to 16, which isn't terribly likely.

Also there is no hurry to re-sign Anthony Spencer who doesn't even appear to be healthy. You could almost certainly sign him after the draft, so this is entirely based on the direction we go in the draft.
 

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I could see something similar to Melton's, with the "It's either a 1 year or 4 year" kinda thing. But the first year would need to be much less than what Melton is getting. And the ultimate size of the contract smaller.
 

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I'm unsure about his health, (captain obvious).

Hopefully he gets a contract that won't significantly effect our cap space this year, if he gets a contract.

Personally I'm not excited to see an over 30 d-lineman coming off of micro-fracture surgery.
 

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I think Sturm said the cowboys only have about 1.5 mill left. Thats not going to get it done for Spencer. I personally don't think he is worth that much but Spencer probably doesnt agree with me.
 

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Don't disagree as long as the knee is progressing and the prognosis is he can actually play this year. Have not heard a lot since heard he was walking around like a 80 year old, that was a little while ago, so maybe it has progressed.
 

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I don't mind the idea of a similar 'prove it' deal, but any and all similarities end there.

I would not pay much of anything guaranteed as I think there's a good chance that he never comes close to being the player he once was. So, at best, it is a substantially calculated risk paying anything and counting on him in any way.

The downside to me is that they do count on him (again!) and it negatively affects draft strategy and they end up with a hole in that critical area as a result.

I still shudder when I think back to how this team's pass rush struggled for years in the 4-3 after the Super Bowl years with the likes of Shante Carver, Ebenezer Ekuban, and Peppi Zellner.
 

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When spencers healthy he is disruptive. Id be ok bringing him back with a contract like meltons.
 

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I hate to admit this, but it might be prudent to bring Anthony Spencer back with a contract shaped similarly to that of Henry Melton, but certainly more limited in scope given his age and the fact that he was given 20 million dollars, 10 of which he didn't earn a dime of.

Normally I would be completely against bringing Anthony Spencer back. I want entirely new blood on this defensive line, it's beyond time, but then it dawned on me. if we could get Spencer for a deal similar to Melton's in which we take no long term risk if he doesn't pan out (and also don't really pay him for the first year), he would be motivated to play extremely well, and finish his rehab as soon as possible. Two years ago he was our best defensive player. Low risk, high reward.

That isn't the only reason why I've changed my mind. I've been thinking of the difficulty of getting two defensive ends out of this draft and trying to incorporate them into the starting lineup. It's a lot to ask for. And quite frankly in the first round if CJ Mosley is available, I think he might be able to help this defense more short term and long term than any of the defensive ends we might get in the first round. Bruce Carter is in his contract year, we should see what he has to him, if there is anything. Sean Lee, CJ Mosley, and Bruce Carter (playing up to potential) could be a pretty great linebacker corps. Of course this is assuming he makes it to 16, which isn't terribly likely.

Also there is no hurry to re-sign Anthony Spencer who doesn't even appear to be healthy. You could almost certainly sign him after the draft, so this is entirely based on the direction we go in the draft.

If he got a deal similar in structure to Melton what would we have to loose?

I wouldn’t expect the first year to cost as much since his injury is more serious that Melton’s so I’d seriously think about it if I were running the Boy’s front office.

I think the current wait and see policy on Spencer is the right way to go about it.
 

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I'm a big AS fan but I don't think it would be a good signing at any price. Maybe I don't understand microfracture surgery but I just have visions of him spending allot of time with bags of ice taped to his leg instead of practicing.
 

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If you got injured at work, would you work for free or give back money you previously received?

Dallas took a chance franchising him and lost.

That's not his fault.

Very true, yet it doesnt change the reality of the situation for the team.
 

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I think Sturm said the cowboys only have about 1.5 mill left. Thats not going to get it done for Spencer. I personally don't think he is worth that much but Spencer probably doesnt agree with me.

I don't know where he is getting that info. They had $7.7 million in cap room. Weeden only took up $75,000 due to the rule of 51 and it was reported yesterday that Melton was counting $1.75 million against the cap. That would give them close the $6 million left.
 

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I don't know where he is getting that info. They had $7.7 million in cap room. Weeden only took up $75,000 due to the rule of 51 and it was reported yesterday that Melton was counting $1.75 million against the cap. That would give them close the $6 million left.

Don't forget the two new linemen we signed which is about another 2 which also changes those counting against the rule of 51
 

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I'm a Spencer fan but i just don't have much confidence that he can bounce back after the microfracture surgery.

Right.

He would be about twice the risk of Melton, since his knee condition is recovers fully only about 40% of the time.
 

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Don't forget the two new linemen we signed which is about another 2 which also changes those counting against the rule of 51

Those signings were a while ago and $7.7 million figure was reported after Ware was released. There have only been the two moves mentioned since then I think.
 

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Just read an article from yesterday stating Dallas had $7.1 million in cap space and it looks like Melton is counting $2.75 not $1.75 million so that leaves $4.35 million in cap space.
 
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