Have We Replaced TO's Production?

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When We released TO last spring, the biggest question was whether or not the move was in fact addition by subtraction and if we could replace TO's production. Through the first six games of the year it appears to be yes. After looking at the stats, it is amazing how similiar this year is to the previous 3 years with TO. The only notable difference is TD's (hopefully will will close this gap over the rest of the year).

http://img262.*************/img262/7913/statsry.jpg
* The 2006 stats are the first 6 games that TR started



For the most part, the passing stats are perfectly in-line with the averages during the TO years with the exception of TD's and completion % (the Denver game really hurt this stat).

The rushing stats are a little bit better as far as total yds and yd/rush and we are scoring the same.

So far, the pundits who thought cutting TO would have a major impact on our offensive production have been proven wrong. I suspect as the identity and chemistry of this ofense continues to grow, we will start to put up numbers that exceed those of the TO years. Good job Garrett.
 
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Without some poor KC and ATL tackling, those TD number are even more distant.

Comparisons to previous season after 6 games is like touting the "1" offense after 6 games.

Do it all season and in December and Ill be impressed.
 

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If I'm reading that right...Bledsoe had the best numbers??
 

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ChldsPlay;3043096 said:
If I'm reading that right...Bledsoe had the best numbers??

THe 2006 numbers are the first 6 games Tony Romo started beginning with the Carolina game.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3043095 said:
Without some poor KC and ATL tackling, those TD number are even more distant.

Comparisons to previous season after 6 games is like touting the "1" offense after 6 games.

Do it all season and in December and Ill be impressed.

Based on most of your other negative posts, I find it hard to believe that you woud be impressed if they did it all season and won the SB. :rolleyes:
 

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DallasInDC;3043010 said:
When We released TO last spring, the biggest question was whether or not the move was in fact addition by subtraction and if we could replace TO's production. Through the first six games of the year it appears to be yes. After looking at the stats, it is amazing how similiar this year is to the previous 3 years with TO. The only notable difference is TD's (hopefully will will close this gap over the rest of the year).

http://img262.*************/img262/7913/statsry.jpg
* The 2006 stats are the first 6 games that TR started



For the most part, the passing stats are perfectly in-line with the averages during the TO years with the exception of TD's and completion % (the Denver game really hurt this stat).

The rushing stats are a little bit better as far as total yds and yd/rush and we are scoring the same.

So far, the pundits who thought cutting TO would have a major impact on our offensive production have been proven wrong. I suspect as the identity and chemistry of this ofense continues to grow, we will start to put up numbers that exceed those of the TO years. Good job Garrett.
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Hostile;3043084 said:
Nice post.


In some ways yes, in some ways it doesnt tell the hole story. You cant discredit what the offense has done saying its because of bad tackling, it happened and it is part of the stats, but at the same time Stats dont tell the whole story. It was either before or after the KC game (I think it was before) Norm was was saying that statistically we had a top 3 offense. Yeah we were moving the ball but we werent scoring. The Cowboys for the past few years have been a quick strike offense. Those yards usually came with touchdowns off of a big play. So the yards are there, but the TDs are not because we arent disciplined enough to sustain long drives and score. Eventually #76 will false start (maybe twice) and bring and end to a good drive.

The encouraging thing is we look as if we have that big play threat back which will get those 25 to 40 yard bombs between the hash marks opened back up. So I dont know if the production is replaced just yet (Points are key when you are speaking of production replacement) but we could be on our way.
 

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Hostile;3043084 said:
Nice post.

DallasEast;3043117 said:

Big Dakota;3043119 said:
Good info, thanks.

Thanks. I plan to continually update this as the season progresses. I think we will see a dramatic improvement with the emergence of Austin and healthy Felix/Barber (barring major injuries of course).
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3043095 said:
Without some poor KC and ATL tackling, those TD number are even more distant.

Comparisons to previous season after 6 games is like touting the "1" offense after 6 games.

Do it all season and in December and Ill be impressed.

So from 06 to 08 every team we faced was great at tackling and no one on our team broke one tackle for a td.

Got it.
 

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thechosen1n2;3043130 said:
In some ways yes, in some ways it doesnt tell the hole story. You cant discredit what the offense has done saying its because of bad tackling, it happened and it is part of the stats, but at the same time Stats dont tell the whole story. It was either before or after the KC game (I think it was before) Norm was was saying that statistically we had a top 3 offense. Yeah we were moving the ball but we werent scoring. Cowboys for the past few years have been a quick strike offense. Those yards usually came with touchdowns off of a big play. So the yards were there, but the TDs werent because we arent disciplined enough to sustain long drives and score. Eventually #76 will false start (maybe twice) and bring and end to a good drive.

The encouraging thing is we look as if we have that big play threat back which will get those 25 to 40 yard bombs between the hash marks opened back up. So I dont know if the production is replaced just yet (Points are key when you are speaking of production replacement) but we could be on our way.

For the most part I agree, and yes points are the ultimate indicator of production. However, this year we have left a lot of points/yds on the field due to unecessary penalties that killed drives. I also think we had some questionable play calling in the redzone (some of which was the result of injuries to felix and barber) thathas hurt our scoring production this year.
 

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DallasInDC;3043157 said:
For the most part I agree, and yes points are the ultimate indicator of production. However, this year we have left a lot of points/yds on the field due to unecessary penalties that killed drives. I also think we had some questionable play calling in the redzone (some of which was the result of injuries to felix and barber) thathas hurt our scoring production this year.

No however needed, those points left on the field because of penalties were exactly what I was speaking of. Scoring and scoring with big plays is terribly important because we rarely sustain drives without STUPID penalties. If you read my original post...everything you said is the basis of my reasoning.
 

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Did TO score 14 touchdowns last year? Seems he dropped at least five touchdown passes.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3043095 said:
Without some poor KC and ATL tackling, those TD number are even more distant.

Comparisons to previous season after 6 games is like touting the "1" offense after 6 games.

Do it all season and in December and Ill be impressed.

I agree it's foolish, but when you have people that want to get a new OC who's offense is obviously very successful at moving the chains, yet in a small slump finding the end zone is baffling.
 
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NextGenBoys;3043217 said:
I agree it's foolish, but when you have people that want to get a new OC who's offense is obviously very successful at moving the chains, yet in a small slump finding the end zone is baffling.


JG can move the ball. Ill give him some credit. But its funny how the 'best TE' in football can't get the rock in the redzone or how Marty B cant get some redzone looks. So much for beans and rice.:confused:
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3043577 said:
JG can move the ball. Ill give him some credit. But its funny how the 'best TE' in football can't get the rock in the redzone or how Marty B cant get some redzone looks. So much for beans and rice.:confused:
This crap cannot be real.
 

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When We released TO last spring, the biggest question was whether or not the move was in fact addition by subtraction and if we could replace TO's production. Through the first six games of the year it appears to be yes. After looking at the stats, it is amazing how similiar this year is to the previous 3 years with TO. The only notable difference is TD's (hopefully will will close this gap over the rest of the year).

The bolded part really shoots down the notion that Dallas has replaced TO.
 

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DallasInDC;3043010 said:
When We released TO last spring, the biggest question was whether or not the move was in fact addition by subtraction and if we could replace TO's production. Through the first six games of the year it appears to be yes. After looking at the stats, it is amazing how similiar this year is to the previous 3 years with TO. The only notable difference is TD's (hopefully will will close this gap over the rest of the year).

http://img262.*************/img262/7913/statsry.jpg
* The 2006 stats are the first 6 games that TR started



For the most part, the passing stats are perfectly in-line with the averages during the TO years with the exception of TD's and completion % (the Denver game really hurt this stat).

The rushing stats are a little bit better as far as total yds and yd/rush and we are scoring the same.

So far, the pundits who thought cutting TO would have a major impact on our offensive production have been proven wrong. I suspect as the identity and chemistry of this ofense continues to grow, we will start to put up numbers that exceed those of the TO years. Good job Garrett.

to go a little further, BTB commented on Austin helping Romo regain his powers:

And that T.O. fellow? He lost it, sometime in the fourth quarter of the week two Eagles game. He destroyed Philly's secondary that night but topped 80 yards in just three of his last fourteen games. His YPA dropped to 7.5, which put him in the bottom third of receivers who saw lots of passes.
Romo lost the elite receiving complement to Jason Witten, and his purple mojo flowed away. For the last two weeks, however, Miles Austin has played like Lance Alworth, a pantheon-level number 19. Austin's 16 catches and 421 yards look impressive. In YPA terms, they're just as good.
2009 to date
  • Austin - 35 attempts, 21,completions, 502 yards, 14.3 YPA
  • Wiliams - 30 attempts, 12 completions, 230 yards, 7.7 YPA
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/10/27/1103931/austin-helps-romo-regain-his-powers#storyjump

...and looking at Owens performance the past three years apart from Romo's number, we start to get why Jones figured it was time to part ways with the wayward receiver, considering the circumstances...he just was'nt worth the trouble anymore...

...................................................VOA..........yds....Eyds..td...............rank
T.Owens DAL 274 7 284 8 10.2% 23 ..11.0% 152 1180 1,380 13 56% 2006 [7]

T.Owens DAL 448 3 435 3 28.2% 5 ....27.0% 141 1355 1,554 15 57% 2007 [3]

T.Owens DAL 75 46 57 52 -5.7% 56 ..-7.4% 139 1052 ...991 10 50% 2008 [46]


where VOA is value over an average receiver, we can see Owens goes from 7th in 2006, to 3rd in 2007 and then off the cliff to 46th in 2008, his least productive year with the Cowboys...the drop-off is pretty steep...
 
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