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Since the HC position should be announced in the next few days I figured I would put in my 2 cents.

We hired a good OC coordinator who should be able to fix any problems with our O. Bear in mind we scored 30 points a game last year so there is not much to fix.

Now we are interviewing the following HC's:

Wade Phillips
Gary Gibbs
Norv Turner

What was the single thing that crippled us last year? DEFENSE.

Gibbs is a 4-3 guy
Why do we need Norv when we have Jason and our O is good already? We need to fix some OL problems but that is about it.

Only guy that makes sense is Wade Phillips.

Here is the biggest concern for me personally. It has been reported since BP left that the players lost respect in him and the play on the field backs that up.

After Norv left Oakland and Washington the same thing was reported about him.

Wade on the other hand has been respected in all his stops and the players play hard for him because he is aggressive.

Gibbs and Norv are passive and that is the last thing we need.

If Jerry passes on Wade it will be a big mistake.
 

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The more I think about it, I wonder if Norv is getting an interview just out of a courtesy to Aikman and Norv previous tenure here.

It may end up being a big fuss about nothing in the end.

Norv just doesnt make sense to me after hiring Garrett.
 

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How do we know Garrett will be a good OC? He has NEVER done it.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1344375 said:
The more I think about it, I wonder if Norv is getting an interview just out of a courtesy to Aikman and Norv previous tenure here.

It may end up being a big fuss about nothing in the end.

Norv just doesnt make sense to me after hiring Garrett.

Then you should be happy when he is announced.

Funny, everyone doubted Garrett's ability to be an OC last week. Now, since they are against Turner, Garrett all of the sudden has become a much better coordinator option and we need to go defense for HC.

Funny.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1344375 said:
The more I think about it, I wonder if Norv is getting an interview just out of a courtesy to Aikman and Norv previous tenure here.

It may end up being a big fuss about nothing in the end.

Norv just doesnt make sense to me after hiring Garrett.

Exactly right.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1344375 said:
The more I think about it, I wonder if Norv is getting an interview just out of a courtesy to Aikman and Norv previous tenure here.

It may end up being a big fuss about nothing in the end.

Norv just doesnt make sense to me after hiring Garrett.
I hope you're right. For whatever reason, every time the local media talks about the situation they say things like "I think he will be announced" or "I feel he is the frontrunner."

They're not reporting any sort of inside information. It's just pure speculation.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1344379 said:
How do we know Garrett will be a good OC? He has NEVER done it.

That proves nothing. He could be real successful too. That is why you do research and interview.
 

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Wrangler87;1344383 said:
Then you should be happy when he is announced.

Funny, everyone doubted Garrett's ability to be an OC last week. Now, since they are against Turner, Garrett all of the sudden has become a much better coordinator option and we need to go defense for HC.

Funny.

If Norv is named HC, I will chuckle for sure.

I didnt doubt Garrett, and think that this would be a great shot for him. Hmm my job is not to mess up what already works most of the time, and improve a couple of things here and there. OL again will be a concern early on but I dont discredit the hiring of Garrett at all.
 

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DBoys;1344395 said:
That proves nothing. He could be real successful too. That is why you do research and interview.


Garrett has gotten much better since Turner has become the front runner, hasn't he?
 

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SkinsandTerps;1344396 said:
If Norv is named HC, I will chuckle for sure.

I didnt doubt Garrett, and think that this would be a great shot for him. Hmm my job is not to mess up what already works most of the time, and improve a couple of things here and there. OL again will be a concern early on but I dont discredit the hiring of Garrett at all.

Skins fan known the state of our team better than our own fans :p
 

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Wrangler87;1344398 said:
Garrett has gotten much better since Turner has become the front runner, hasn't he?
No. At most the mob subsided because the rumors of him being HC died out. No one ever had a problem with him being offered the OC position.
 

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DBoys;1344395 said:
That proves nothing. He could be real successful too. That is why you do research and interview.

The statement was we hired a good OC. Where's the proof of that? I don't think we have any. he could be good, he might not be. The fact is we have no idea what we hired.
We hired a likeable guy, from what I hear.
 

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Wrangler87;1344398 said:
Garrett has gotten much better since Turner has become the front runner, hasn't he?

The savy Cowboy fans knew Garrett was smart. We knew he was smart when he played for us. Just because some fans changed their minds about him lately doesn't mean that is everyone. I liked the move from day one and it is no secret Jerry had his sights on him this year. I questioned him being HC not OC.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1344407 said:
The statement was we hired a good OC. Where's the proof of that? I don't think we have any. he could be good, he might not be. The fact is we have no idea what we hired.
We hired a likeable guy, from what I hear.

Good is known in the following:
Experience from working with the person.
Testimony from past working relationships.
Results on the field.
Interviews.

His dad was a cowboy scout, he played for the team I mean what more do you want.

He has gotten some pretty high praise from others. In my opinion that is pretty conclusive that he won't be bad.
 

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Considering that we just had a defensive minded coach and our defense is what everyone considers to be our problem, you'd think people would figure out that your head coach doesn't have everything to do with what is good on your team. DC is more important to our defense than the HC.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1344375 said:
The more I think about it, I wonder if Norv is getting an interview just out of a courtesy to Aikman and Norv previous tenure here.

It may end up being a big fuss about nothing in the end.

Norv just doesnt make sense to me after hiring Garrett.

Yeah, sorta like Gibbs (HOF) hiring Saunders to run his offense....:lmao2:
 

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only player that has openly questioned parcells was TO
What other players said they lost faith in him??
If that happened I completely missed it.
 

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DBoys;1344414 said:
Good is known in the following:
Experience from working with the person.
Testimony from past working relationships.
Results on the field.
Interviews.

His dad was a cowboy scout, he played for the team I mean what more do you want.

He has gotten some pretty high praise from others. In my opinion that is pretty conclusive that he won't be bad.

1)He was a back up QB. he was ok at that. he was never a coach in Dallas

2) He has testimonials but that's it. He was offered a college job and let go by Miami. Not much convincing me there.

3)What results? Kerry Collins and Joe Harrington?

4) we didn't hire his daddy.

I'm ok with him being the OC. I wont say he's a good hire because people personaly like him. He needs to prove himself.
 

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DBoys;1344400 said:
Skins fan known the state of our team better than our own fans :p

But the thing is, they're house is so screwed up its embarrassing. I live here in MD. and get all the Foreskin news daily. Their HC doesn't talk to the OC, OC doesn't talk to their star RB, the entire staff and players hate their starting WR(Lloyd), Springs called the team "disfunctional", they're bumpin up against the cap, and they have just a few draft pics to work with.. How their fans come here and comment on our doings is beyond me.. Unbelievable!!!!!
 

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DBoys;1344400 said:
Skins fan known the state of our team better than our own fans :p

You never give an opinion on any other team? Skinsand Terps brings some knowledge here. They had Norv there more recently than we did. What was your opinion on Norv as a head coach there?
 
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