Help Me Understand, Judge-AndyReid Home, illegal drugs, etc, is that right?

[LeonDixson]

The original poster's point was not about the Reid's parenting skills. It was that Andy Reid's house contained illegal drugs, as was confirmed by a judge. Shouldn't Goodall levy a fine and a suspension against Reid? I think so.

 

[BoysRule2]

Why are we making excuses for Reid?

When we had Mike Irvin, Leon Lett, and Quincy not only getting into this stuff(but also the criminal aspects of it as well), did ANYONE feel sorry for us?

Whether or not Reid is a good parent, this IS causing a big distraction not only for himself, but for his family and team as well.

 

[Doomsday101]

Good person doesn't = good parent.

I'll be damned if my kids do "whatever they want" when they're teens. And my parents shared that concept.

My folks came down hard on me when they caught me doing something wrong but at 16 and 17 years old you can't be with the kids all the time. I knew what I was doing and I don't blame them for my mistakes as a teenager growing up in the times I grew up in.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Andy Reid is not a Dallas Cowboy, so he won't be suspended.

Bill Bellecheck is not a Dallas Cowboy, so he didn't get suspended.

Wade Wilson is a Dallas Cowboy, so he was suspended.

Tank Johnson became a Dallas Cowboy, so the two last games he no longer had to serve WITH suspension were enforced for him to now serve suspended.

Which part of this makes no sense to you?

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[kevwun]

To be fair, Goodell has let Tank work out and practice with the team before his suspension was up. It will let him help the team a lot faster.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

What’s Goodell gonna to do about Wade Phillips daughter being a stripper?

 

[03EBZ06]

Since there were illegal drugs found in Reid's home, it is becoming difficult to defend Mr. and Mrs. Reid, although if the house was a big home then I'm sure there are many places for kids to hide "things".

The question is, did Reid knew about storage of these illegal drugs? Were these drugs hidden or was it out there in plain sight?

Did they have a house keeper? Or did Mrs. Reid cleaned the house? Whoever cleans the house usually finds "things" accidently.

If Coach Reid did know about presence of drugs at home, what authority does Goodell have to exercise his judgement? Does Goodell have any authority and cause to punish Reid for just allowing illegal drugs to be kept at his home?

I don't know, maybe some one can shed light on these questions.

 

[sago1]

Think we getting away from the issue. The judge apparently believes or has evidence that significant kinds of drugs, prescription and non-prescription, along with other stuff are all over the Reid house. I assume that to mean that drugs weren't found solely in the kids' rooms but literally everywhere. Also understand (perhaps incorrectly) that the Reids have several younger children. If the judge is concerned the Reid home isn't an environment his 2 older children should be in, what's the obligation towards the younger children.

It sure seems to me that something is really wrong in that home but whose responsible. Usually the vote goes to the parents to a certain extent. Also those kids were involved in stuff were much younger. It just sounds like at least his 2 older sons weren't getting much parental supervision while they were young--either from one or both parents.

I know some will say Reid was at work doing his job, not goofing around. It all comes down to priorities. What's more important and is he too late anyway for his 2 oldest: Being a good father or being a great football coach. If Reid doesn't know now, he might have a different view in 10-15 years.

 

[LeonDixson]

What’s Goodell gonna to do about Wade Phillips daughter being a stripper?

Is that illegal?

 

[LeonDixson]

To be fair, Goodell has let Tank work out and practice with the team before his suspension was up. It will let him help the team a lot faster.

You're right. Although I had read something (sorry I don't have a link) a few weeks ago that the NFL policy was going to be changed to allow all suspended players to practice with their team two weeks before their suspensions were up. So I don't think he was doing Tank a favor, I think it's going to be the norm now.

 

[Big D]

After reading about the judge who said the Reid house is like a drug emporium, and that upon conducting a search, drugs were found everywhere.

I can only summize that if Andy Reid didn't know about what was going on, then obviously the drugs where not hidden in the refridgerator or the kitchen for that matter.

Of course, he is big enough that I suppose if the kids hid drugs somewhere on Andy. He might not have known.

:laugh2:

Very funny!

 

[firehawk350]

Think we getting away from the issue. The judge apparently believes or has evidence that significant kinds of drugs, prescription and non-prescription, along with other stuff are all over the Reid house. I assume that to mean that drugs weren't found solely in the kids' rooms but literally everywhere. Also understand (perhaps incorrectly) that the Reids have several younger children. If the judge is concerned the Reid home isn't an environment his 2 older children should be in, what's the obligation towards the younger children.

It sure seems to me that something is really wrong in that home but whose responsible. Usually the vote goes to the parents to a certain extent. Also those kids were involved in stuff were much younger. It just sounds like at least his 2 older sons weren't getting much parental supervision while they were young--either from one or both parents.

I know some will say Reid was at work doing his job, not goofing around. It all comes down to priorities. What's more important and is he too late anyway for his 2 oldest: Being a good father or being a great football coach. If Reid doesn't know now, he might have a different view in 10-15 years.

You're 100% correct here. There is a stipulation though in some states (and I think Illinois is one of them) that says if somebody fesses up to owning and storing the drugs there without the knowledge of the property owner, the property owner isn't held liable. But basically, that's akin to a guilty plea and you lose a lot of bargaining power if you want a plea bargain. But that's from the little I know, so I may be WAY off-base here. Either way, you don't have to do anything illegal (according to Goodell) to get suspended, so it's interesting that he's not at least saying SOMETHING to explain why he hasn't done anything.

 

[AbeBeta]

You're 100% correct here. There is a stipulation though in some states (and I think Illinois is one of them) that says if somebody fesses up to owning and storing the drugs there without the knowledge of the property owner, the property owner isn't held liable. But basically, that's akin to a guilty plea and you lose a lot of bargaining power if you want a plea bargain. But that's from the little I know, so I may be WAY off-base here. Either way, you don't have to do anything illegal (according to Goodell) to get suspended, so it's interesting that he's not at least saying SOMETHING to explain why he hasn't done anything.

Andy Reid isn't going to face any legal consequences here regardless of the law. That simply isn't an angle that most law enforcement agencies are interested in pursuing.

That said, I think it is bad precedent to punish someone because their kids are drug addicts. I've got a friend who has had for years a serious problem with oxycontin and cocaine. He'd been living in a crappy apartment in crack hell for a few years, just getting worse and worse. One day his dad had enough and came and moved him back home. He's lived there ever since. He still has a drug problem but he so much better now. I think of my friend's dad as a real hero. He knows he can't get his son completely off drugs but he at least put him in a safe environment.

If my friend got arrested today, his dad would look very much like Andy Reid does to the outside world.

I know people are going to scream "Wade Wilson. Wade Wilson." But Wilson actually purchased the drugs so that is a very different level of involvement.

 

[bbgun]

In all fairness, he wanted to search their rooms, but couldn't fit through the door.

 

[FCBarca]

Parenting doesn't end when children are 22 or 24, parents are always going to be parents.

And at 22-24 years of age, these Reid kids are clearly off the 'right track' nevermind whatever 'other' problems they may have...Parents definitely have to burden a good share of the blame here, even Andy (Whom I really have no 'beef' with, Eagles coach or not)...Mom and Dad are both to blame for the two kids in their own home who were up to the things they were up to.

Shame really...That house is clearly in shambles and more than Goodell getting involved (Which I think is pointless), Andy should have accomplished more with that 5 week leave of absence in the summer...Unless, of course, this verdict was writing on the wall even after the leave of absence.

What a mess though

 

[David276]

why is this such a shock to everyone

 

[03EBZ06]

Parenting doesn't end when children are 22 or 24, parents are always going to be parents.

Well, it all depends on the kids. If kids do not want any association with their parents, then parents can't do much about, all they can do is love them and be there for them when they decide they need parents' help.

A friend of mine's 18 year old son who is still a senior in HS, decided to move out of the house so he could be "free" and my friend his wife couldn't do anything about it, nothing. Once your kid is 18, they can move out and do whatever they want and no parents can interfere with their life.

At 22 - 24, they are adults and whatever decision they make they have to live with it and pay consequences if it is a bad decision. At that age, they assume sole responsiblity for their action, no one else.