Henson - coaching

[Nors]

Is Parcells screwing Henson? Last year changed his throwing mechanics and had him throwing 5000 passes till his arm fell off.

Now he's sending him to NFLe? While Romo stays with Bledsoe and Palmer and gear up for season.....


Just playing deviled advocate - Should Jerry have brought Norv Turner back to work with Henson? Norv was instrumental in creating/coaching Troy Aikman and his rise. Would have made more sense to bring him in and groom Henson?
Instead we get Plamer who is Bledsoe's boy and we ice Henson out?

Or has Parcells convinced him (JJ) we can win now with Drew Bledsoe and Romo is indeed a better QB than Henson? Palmer hiring says Bill still winning tug of war.......

NFLe up for Henson - has he been set up for Failure by the Tunaman?

 

[blindzebra]

Is it also possible that they are trying to give him experience that NEITHER of them have, and the fact that Romo was on record that he did not want to go, while Henson was all POSITIVE about the chance to play, that it is actually Romo that is on the skids.

Been pretty quiet and here comes Nors with multiple QB threads, hmmmm.

 

[Clove]

I thought it was a bad idea to change his mechanics. If you're successful at doing something a certain way, just become a genius at it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Is Parcells screwing Henson? Last year changed his throwing mechanics and had him throwing 5000 passes till his arm fell off.

Now he's sending him to NFLe? While Romo stays with Bledsoe and Palmer and gear up for season.....


Just playing deviled advocate - Should Jerry have brought Norv Turner back to work with Henson? Norv was instrumental in creating/coaching Troy Aikman and his rise. Would have made more sense to bring him in and groom Henson?
Instead we get Plamer who is Bledsoe's boy and we ice Henson out?

Or has Parcells convinced him (JJ) we can win now with Drew Bledsoe and Romo is indeed a better QB than Henson? Palmer hiring says Bill still winning tug of war.......

NFLe up for Henson - has he been set up for Failure by the Tunaman?

I don't know if Tuna likes or dislikes Henson. for whatever reason, I don't think he believes in him as his future QB.

I think it would have been a mistake to bring in Norv. That would constitute a fundemental change in our offense. I don't think that would have been good for anybody. I don't love Palmer. To me, he's just a guy. I really would have liked to hire Saunders but it didn't happen so........

IMO, Bill should be more concerned with setting himself up for failure. He's been extended and for the most part, he's got another year to succeed but if were still an also ran in next years race, the pressure on him is going to get rediculouse. Pressure in NY is tough and they say there's no place tougher but just try being branded a football loser in Texas and get back to me. Bill needs to show people that he can get us into the playoffs or I believe his life is going to get real unpleasant real quick. That would probably lead to departure which would leave our organization in a lurch. In that situation, nobody wins but it will be unavoidable IMO.

 

[CalCBFan]

Thank goodness somebody is finally catching on around here about BP's relationship w/ Henson. You should have listened to Spags talk about watching Hutch play over there and how a couple of guys on the OL were just letting the DLs through. No blocking whatsoever. Of course Chad got a shoulder injury in his last game, couldn't play in camp, and got released. This is exactly what BP has in mind for all these "little" who give up football to make $$$ in baseball, fail, and then think they ae just going to come back to football and pick-up where they left off. Henson will never play a down for us....






BP says...do NOT circumvent the language filter please.

 

[Z-Man]

Is Parcells screwing Henson? Last year changed his throwing mechanics and had him throwing 5000 passes till his arm fell off.

Now he's sending him to NFLe? While Romo stays with Bledsoe and Palmer and gear up for season.....


Just playing deviled advocate - Should Jerry have brought Norv Turner back to work with Henson? Norv was instrumental in creating/coaching Troy Aikman and his rise. Would have made more sense to bring him in and groom Henson?
Instead we get Plamer who is Bledsoe's boy and we ice Henson out?

Or has Parcells convinced him (JJ) we can win now with Drew Bledsoe and Romo is indeed a better QB than Henson? Palmer hiring says Bill still winning tug of war.......

NFLe up for Henson - has he been set up for Failure by the Tunaman?

Good points actually.

Who knows what's going on with Henson anymore.
I was always pulling for the guy because he does have the most untapped talent as a Quarterback we've had since Aikman.
Sadly, I do think the NFLE is his last chance to show he has something. If he flops like Hutchison did he's gone ... period. However if he does show something I expect he'll probably stay 3rd string this year and then battle it out with Romo in 2007 for starting rights.

 

[blindzebra]

Thank goodness somebody is finally catching on around here about BP's relationship w/ Henson. You should have listened to Spags talk about watching Hutch play over there and how a couple of guys on the OL were just letting the DLs through. No blocking whatsoever. Of course Chad got a shoulder injury in his last game, couldn't play in camp, and got released. This is exactly what BP has in mind for all these "little " who give up football to make $$$ in baseball, fail, and then think they ae just going to come back to football and pick-up where they left off. Henson will never play a down for us....

A lot of logic behind this post, bravo.

 

[junk]

I have no idea if Henson will ever pan out. I sure hope so. However, the best thing for him right now is game experience. He isn't going to get it in Dallas.

He should have the offense down. They should be done tweaking his throwing motion. Conditioning/strength training isn't quite as essential for a QB as it would be for a lineman.

He needs work going through his reads in game time situations and he'll get it in Europe.

And, if he stinks, Dallas will know what they have and can seriously start looking for a way to get a QB next year. If he does well (and he could this in a number of ways besides just great stats), then the team knows they have something to build on.

NFLe is early this year, so he should have some time to recover before training camp as well.

I see this as a win/win situation. Right now, there isn't a third QB out there that I'd rather have then Henson. I really hope he does well in Europe.

 

[neosapien23]

I think Romo will be the one who might find himself in BPs doghouse. By showing a willingness to go and compete in Europe, Henson showed a more competitive spirit than Romo who was just happy to stay in Dallas. Look for Henson to get more looks at the 2nd QB spot than Romo this year. Henson has a much stronger arm than Romo, bit isn't as polished due to not playing for three years. People need to realize that Hutchinson was ruined by being forced to play. He became uneasy in the pocket because of all the hits he took. Parcells knew Hutchinson was shot because of Campo and doesn't want to make the same mistake with Henson.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Thank goodness somebody is finally catching on around here about BP's relationship w/ Henson. You should have listened to Spags talk about watching Hutch play over there and how a couple of guys on the OL were just letting the DLs through. No blocking whatsoever. Of course Chad got a shoulder injury in his last game, couldn't play in camp, and got released. This is exactly what BP has in mind for all these "little" who give up football to make $$$ in baseball, fail, and then think they ae just going to come back to football and pick-up where they left off. Henson will never play a down for us....






BP says...do NOT circumvent the language filter please.

ROFL. I'm sure BP would send someone to Europe intentionally to either a) get hurt or b) to punish someone as you implied.

I don't know where this nonsense about BP NOT liking Henson came from, when he was actively involved in recruiting him to choose the organization, as well as BP being the reason given by Henson for choosing to play for the Cowboys. It's all utter nonsense and for some odd reason keeps getting reiterated like its factual.

 

[Bach]

It'll give me one reason to actually pay attention to the NFLE. I don't think Henson will ever start in Dallas, and probably won't even take another snap here. But, at least we'll get a look at him this spring and make NFLE a tad interesting for once.

 

[conner01]

the guy needs playing time. hows he gonna get it if he can't go where there is an opportunity to play?seems like a catch 22, if don't does'nt play him he's wrong for not letting him get on the field, and if he sends him to europe to get to play he's trying to get him hurt.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

This is a good topic Nors.

I have a friend who is a friend of David Lee and although I understand Lee is a wonderful man and just a really good person, I've wondered for a long time what qualifications Lee has to show he is the right coach to develop a young, NFL QB. We can never underestimate the value of a good coach/tutor for a young, inexperienced NFL QB.

I really don't understand why this hasn't been discussed more on this forum, since Lee was charged with the responsibility of developing Henson.

Lee's resume shows, if I'm not mistaken, that he was fired as head coach of UTEP, (I believe), back in the 90's and was out of work until Parcells hired him. Their connection goes way back to Parcells days as a young assistant coach at Vanderbilt. But to my knowledge Lee had NO experience developing a young, NFL QB.

We definitely need a good, young QB coach , IMO for whoever emerges as the successor to Bledsoe..

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I thought it was a bad idea to change his mechanics. If you're successful at doing something a certain way, just become a genius at it.

I didn't like it much either. Here's a guy who was supposed to be a #1 pick if he had stayed in college, he was big, he had the big time arm....why would you screw with that. Parcells knows alot more about QB's than I do, he won a SB with Hostetler (who had a decent NFL career afterwards)..but common sense tells me:
Why would you mess with one of the QB's main weapons, his arm (mental aspect is huge too), at this point. You aren't going to tell a RB to start running a different way. Not in how they read the play, but their actual running form.

 

[J-DOG]

I thought it was a bad idea to change his mechanics. If you're successful at doing something a certain way, just become a genius at it.

Chris Palmer is the one guy who is an advocate for changing the throwing mechanics of qb's.
Not just any qb's either.
He has tinkered with 2 qb's throwing mechanics in recent history.
And the results were catastrophic.
Tim Couch and David Carr.
Now tell me something...if you draft a qb number 1 in the entire draft why would you want to change his throwing mechanics???
Chris Palmer is a bad choice for Drew Henson know matter how you slice it.
I am not a big fan of the hiring of Chris Palmer.
If his recent stops at Cleveland and Houston are indicitive of his work our qb's will get worse for sure.
I have seen where Holmgren will not change throwing motions of his qb's because he says they have played that way there entire life why so would you want a player to change the one thing you want a qb to do at the professional level?
I agree with Holmgren on that 100 percent.

 

[Ashwynn]

I think Romo will be the one who might find himself in BPs doghouse. By showing a willingness to go and compete in Europe, Henson showed a more competitive spirit than Romo who was just happy to stay in Dallas. Look for Henson to get more looks at the 2nd QB spot than Romo this year. Henson has a much stronger arm than Romo, bit isn't as polished due to not playing for three years. People need to realize that Hutchinson was ruined by being forced to play. He became uneasy in the pocket because of all the hits he took. Parcells knew Hutchinson was shot because of Campo and doesn't want to make the same mistake with Henson.

Its not a choice. The team designates you for assignment to NFLe and then the teams there draft you. You as a player have no choice in it except to not go, and thats not a good career move if your coach wants you there.

You dont know anything about Romo do you. Hes been all over the media saying hes chomping at the bit to play. He is not content on the sideline. Hes got more desire to play then Henson it seems.

 

[BigDFan5]

Its not a choice. The team designates you for assignment to NFLe and then the teams there draft you. You as a player have no choice in it except to not go, and thats not a good career move if your coach wants you there.

You dont know anything about Romo do you. Hes been all over the media saying hes chomping at the bit to play. He is not content on the sideline. Hes got more desire to play then Henson it seems.

Actually he is correct Romo declined the chance to go play in Europe. So he chose not to go

 

[neosapien23]

Its not a choice. The team designates you for assignment to NFLe and then the teams there draft you. You as a player have no choice in it except to not go, and thats not a good career move if your coach wants you there.

You dont know anything about Romo do you. Hes been all over the media saying hes chomping at the bit to play. He is not content on the sideline. Hes got more desire to play then Henson it seems.

The Cowboys asked both quarterbacks if they would play in Europe. Henson was extremely intrested, Romo scoffed at the idea. I already knew about the allocation process.

 

[Rack]

Is Parcells screwing Henson? Last year changed his throwing mechanics and had him throwing 5000 passes till his arm fell off.

Now he's sending him to NFLe? While Romo stays with Bledsoe and Palmer and gear up for season.....


Just playing deviled advocate - Should Jerry have brought Norv Turner back to work with Henson? Norv was instrumental in creating/coaching Troy Aikman and his rise. Would have made more sense to bring him in and groom Henson?
Instead we get Plamer who is Bledsoe's boy and we ice Henson out?

Or has Parcells convinced him (JJ) we can win now with Drew Bledsoe and Romo is indeed a better QB than Henson? Palmer hiring says Bill still winning tug of war.......

NFLe up for Henson - has he been set up for Failure by the Tunaman?

*Yawn*

 

[TEK2000]

I guess I'm the only one that finds it funny that so many people bash Bledsoe and have so much patience with Henson.

I don't give a damn if the guy was given a chance or not... if the coaches don't feel like he can lead this team to victory.. I don't want him on the field.

EVERY ONE OF YOU would say the same thing about ANY other player on the roster.. but for some reason Henson gets this free pass to "get a chance to play in the game."
99.9% of the time.. if a guy can't do it right in practice.. he won't do it right in the game.