Henson - Parcells - and our future

[Bob Sacamano]

The question, then, is this. If Parcells has his way with the QB situation will Henson ever get a fair shot with him? Or, if you don't like it worded that way. Is Bill Parcells the coach to develop Drew Henson?

what's wrong with a coach asking his #3 QB from a year ago, battle the #2 QB from a year ago, for his job, instead of it being handed to him? that seems pretty fair to me

 

[Alexander]

After watching Henson in NFLE I am more convinced than ever that the Cowboys have mishandled him. You can see him getting better week after week which confirms the thinking that all he needed was CONFIDENCE and EXPERIENCE.

I see mobility, a big arm, good decision making and leadership. What more would you want in a young QB?

Which gets to my question.

I am concerned when I read in another thread, one that recaps an interview with Mickey Spagnola, that "Parcells still likes Romo and if Henson comes back he will come back as the #3 with the chance of competing for #2".

I have been saying it since Parcells first arrived, he is stubborn to a fault, is petty in some areas, is an absolute control freak, and if we are all being honest with ourselves, hasn't proven a thing in Dallas so far except that he has upgraded the overall talent of the team. (While still not fixing some areas, i.e., the offensive line)

The question, then, is this. If Parcells has his way with the QB situation will Henson ever get a fair shot with him? Or, if you don't like it worded that way. Is Bill Parcells the coach to develop Drew Henson?

If the answer is no, then does Jerry Jones allow Henson to be a scrap heap project while Parcells goes about his business?

I would be interested to hear your perspectives on this.

When is Henson going to be accountable for his level of play?

And when will it cease being a case where he was not given what fans think is an appropriate level of "handling"?

I would bet he would be the first to say that he is not ready to start in the NFL.

He needed an opportunity to play football. He is getting that. And now that he is apparently doing pretty good, you have people claiming he would someone be better if he wasn't "mishandled"?

Incredible, simply incredible.

 

[aikemirv]

I sometimes am not sure what to think about it...but this much I am pretty certain about...as long as BP is coaching and Bledsoe is on the roster..Bledsoe will be starting even if he is the worse qb of the three...now if Bledsoe gets injured and one of the young-uns comes into play for lets say 7-8 games I don't think Bledsoe will be getting his job back so easy...I believe that given a half a year to either of the 2 young-uns would be enough to make them better than Bledsoe...jmho

Bledsoe's contract was pretty much a 2 year deal if I remember correctly. I don't remember what we have to do to make it a 3 year deal, but I though it was very costly.

If BP does not get us deep into the playoffs this year, I believe it could spell the end of BP as coach and , with that, Bledsoe as QB.

I think JJ will draw the line and not resign Bledsoe, forcing BP into a decision of whether he wants to move forward with a young QB or retire.

Well see!

 

[Alexander]

what's wrong with a coach asking his #3 QB from a year ago, battle the #2 QB from a year ago, for his job, instead of it being handed to him? that seems pretty fair to me

And what makes you think that won't happen?

Oh wait. Coach Parcells has it out for Henson. I forgot.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Bledsoe's contract was pretty much a 2 year deal if I remember correctly. I don't remember what we have to do to make it a 3 year deal, but I though it was very costly.

we gave Bledsoe a 3-year deal, with the 3rd year being voidable

 

[Bob Sacamano]

And what makes you think that won't happen?

Oh wait. Coach Parcells has it out for Henson. I forgot.

I know right, Parcells kept checking in on the progress of bringing in Henson from the Texans because he couldn't believe Jerry and Stephen were actually going to do it, not because he wanted him...no...never

 

[Galian Beast]

I think it is officially time people stopped assuming things about Bill Parcells...

Whether he has a problem with Henson. Whether he didn't want T.O. Whether he is going to quit at the end of the season...

I mean you guys are all full of #%$

 

[Chocolate Lab]

My longstanding opinion is that Parcells simply doesn't care much one way or another about Henson. He's not going to intentionally derail Drew's career, but he's not going to bend over backwards to develop him, either.

IMO the most Parcells will go is in allowing Henson to remain on his team for when he retires. And I'm still not sold Henson makes it to the regular season this year, although I don't think Jerry is ready to pull the plug on him yet.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My longstanding opinion is that Parcells simply doesn't care much one way or another about Henson. He's not going to intentionally derail Drew's career, but he's not going to bend over backwards to develop him, either.

IMO the most Parcells will go is in allowing Henson to remain on his team for when he retires. And I'm still not sold Henson makes it to the regular season this year, although I don't think Jerry is ready to pull the plug on him yet.

I dont buy that he doesnt care about Henson. Hes a player on his team and Parcells ahs a rep for giving a flip about his players. Now I do believe that Parcells will not allow Henson to think that he gives a flip about him tho.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

After watching Henson in NFLE I am more convinced than ever that the Cowboys have mishandled him. You can see him getting better week after week which confirms the thinking that all he needed was CONFIDENCE and EXPERIENCE.

I see mobility, a big arm, good decision making and leadership. What more would you want in a young QB?

Which gets to my question.

I am concerned when I read in another thread, one that recaps an interview with Mickey Spagnola, that "Parcells still likes Romo and if Henson comes back he will come back as the #3 with the chance of competing for #2".

I have been saying it since Parcells first arrived, he is stubborn to a fault, is petty in some areas, is an absolute control freak, and if we are all being honest with ourselves, hasn't proven a thing in Dallas so far except that he has upgraded the overall talent of the team. (While still not fixing some areas, i.e., the offensive line)

The question, then, is this. If Parcells has his way with the QB situation will Henson ever get a fair shot with him? Or, if you don't like it worded that way. Is Bill Parcells the coach to develop Drew Henson?

If the answer is no, then does Jerry Jones allow Henson to be a scrap heap project while Parcells goes about his business?

I would be interested to hear your perspectives on this.

I really don't understand what people are thinking with this whole Henstud situation....the guy is playing in NFL EUROPE. You don't get sent there if you are an NFL calibur player....even 2nd stringers aren't allocated to that league. It's for practice squad and pine riders only to entertain the European people and generate marginal revenue for the NFL.....JJ and Parcells were probably ready to cut him but instead opted to send him to NFLE as a last ditch effort to see if he shows anything.

So far he has looked pedestrian in NFLE against a bunch of NFL outcasts and 3rd string scrubs. Also he is playing on a team there that has always been strong and has a good defense....but sadly the rhein 'fire' would be doused and trampled if they played in the NFC East.

I predict that Henson will be cut in training camp...plain and simple. I just don't see him making it on this team, especially since our bar is higher than most other organizations. In fact if we draft a young QB on day 2 next week than Henson might not even make it to training camp.

Does this mean he won't have a career in the NFL if we cut him?.....NO it doesn't, he's just facing an uphill battle since he hasn't developed so far and is playing behind one of the best in the business.

I wish Henstud well, but it's going to take divine intervention for him to make it past the final cuts in training camp...wake up to reality people!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

He hasn't been mishandled.

We fans have no idea how difficult it is to play QB at the NFL level.
For Henson to be out of the game for 3 years and have the limited experience he had at Michigan, it was sheer idiocy to think he could step in and play as a rookie! I saw a segment with Andy Reid and he mentioned that it would take a QB 3-4 years to be comfortable in his system and that was talking about a QB who had played 4 years of college ball and came to the NFL right out of college.

What you should do is enjoy the fact that Henson is progressing in NFLE and thank Parcells that Jerry didn't have the chance to ruin Henson by playing him in live, NFL action before he was ready. If he makes it you can thank Parcells for understanding how to develop a young, extremely green QB, who had some tools to work with.

 

[zrinkill]

I wish Henstud well, but it's going to take divine intervention for him to make it past the final cuts in training camp...wake up to reality people!

Wishful thinking wont make him go away kid.

And most NFL Europe teams would destroy most college teams ........... so how is doing well in NFL Europe worse than doing well as a college prospect.

 

[Wolverine]

Good post rcaldw.

The only thing I think Parcells did right with Henson was tryin to have him come more over the top with his throws. Besides that it would be hard to find a coach ANYWHERE who coulda done a worse job with Henson then Bill Parcells.

When we were outta the playoffs in 04 does Parcells give Henson or Romo any game time. None. I have said it before...it was more important for Parcells to see one of his Parcells Guys pad his career stats instead of lettin the young QBs get needed game time.

Same thing again in 05. The last game Henson and Romo coulda each played half that last game....but no....again....one of Parcells favorites got to pad his stats instead.

And always remember it was HENSON who wanted to go to NFLE....Parcells had nothin to do with it. I truly do not know what Parcells problem with Henson is but it must be p*ssin Parcells off to see Henson get better every game over there. It is makin him look like a bigger a** every game.

I do not think much of Parcells at all. 1 game above .500 in his 3 years here. I guess he is lost without Billechek tellin him everything to do. Parcells....ZERO Super Bowls without Billechek. Billechek 3 Super Bowls without Parcells....nuff said.

 

[Jarv]

JJ is not going to let Henson go anywhere...lol.

Bledsoe and BP will be sitting in rocking chairs next to each other as Henson wins us multiple Super Bowl trophies.

Henson, being the classy guy he is will thank Bledsoe for showing him the ropes...and BP for building a great team for him to lead.

Bledstud for MVP will be in an insany asylum with Jim Carey saying he knows the identity of Batman !

 

[zrinkill]

I do not think much of Parcells at all.

Somehow he turns Hensons (who is coached by Parcells) success as a bad showing on Parcells .................



I guess next it will be Zimmers fault that Henson isnt the starter yet.

 

[skinsscalper]

This whole thing is going as planned. Jerry AND Bill knew that this kid was nothing more than a project that had the potential to be a blockbuster trade for the organization.

Henson would have been a top five pick coming out of college if he had picked Football over baseball. He chose the other route and he's having to reacclimate himself with the game. There is still the possibility that this kid could end up every bit as much worthy of a top five pick, it's just going to take more time.

Drew Henson has looked nothing but lost against NFL caliber teams (in both the pre-season and regular season appearances). It's to be expected. The game is much faster than the one that heplayed in college and his time away from the game must be taken into account also. What you're all seeing in Europe is exactly what we want to see from this guy. He's becoming more and more familiar with the game and with being a team leader. He's not being asked to win games and he's not losing them with bonehead plays. Ben Rothlisberger has a Super Bowl ring by playing the same type of game. Now, don't get me wrong, in no way am I saying that DH is BR, I'm just saying that you don't have to set the planet on fire with astronomical stats to have success, you just have to be smart with the opportunities that you have. I think Henson is on the way to getting a glimpse of that.

To be honest, it wouldn't bother me a bit to see Henson become our next Jason Garrett. Never a guy that we have to bank our future on, but someone that could come in and manage a game or two during an injury situation. To me that would be well worth the 3rd rounder we gave up for him.

SS

 

[Wolverine]

Somehow he turns Hensons (who is coached by Parcells) success as a bad showing on Parcells .................



I guess next it will be Zimmers fault that Henson isnt the starter yet.

Answer me this.

Who is the reason that Drew Henson is in NFLE. Parcells or Henson.


Answer is Henson. Henson WANTED to go.


So any improvements Henson makes is cuz of HENSON....Parcells has ZERO to do with it.

If Parcells pushed to send Henson to NFLE then maybe Parcells would get some credit.

If Henson had not pushed to go to NFLE he woulda just spent another whole season on the sidelines doin nothin. At least cuz of HENSON he is now gettin some games played that no practice or scout team BS can ever improve him as much as he will improve now.

 

[SouthernStar]

I really don't understand what people are thinking with this whole Henstud situation....the guy is playing in NFL EUROPE. You don't get sent there if you are an NFL calibur player....even 2nd stringers aren't allocated to that league. It's for practice squad and pine riders only to entertain the European people and generate marginal revenue for the NFL.....JJ and Parcells were probably ready to cut him but instead opted to send him to NFLE as a last ditch effort to see if he shows anything.

I got to agree with you here. Sad, but true.

I predict that Henson will be cut in training camp...plain and simple.

That's bold talk from a one-eyed fatman! (from True Grit)

I just don't see him making it on this team, especially since our bar is higher than most other organizations.

If you're talking about OUR BAR as fans, I agree with you.
If you're talking about OUR BAR as a franchise concerning quarterbacks (in the Parcells era), I disagree with you.

In fact if we draft a young QB on day 2 next week than Henson might not even make it to training camp.

No way, Jose! It's probably more likely that we trade Romo (or Henson) to Payton in New Orleans for a player (this year) or pick (next year).

I'll bet that we don't draft a quarterback in this draft. And, if we do, then you can be darn sure that some "major shakeups" are in the works at Valley Ranch

 

[zrinkill]

Answer me this.

Who is the reason that Drew Henson is in NFLE. Parcells or Henson.

Are you really that blind? so if Henson wanted to play in the Arena league he just could without Bill sending him there?

Parcells sent Henson to Europe and Henson was happy about it cause he wanted to go ........ dont get silly with your coach hate

 

[Wolverine]

Are you really that blind? so if Henson wanted to play in the Arena league he just could without Bill sending him there?

Parcells sent Henson to Europe and Henson was happy about it cause he wanted to go ........ dont get silly with your coach hate

It was Henson who wanted to go to NFLE. Parcells had nothin to do with it. When Henson wanted to go it was Jerry Jones that got it done. Not Parcells.