Henson -- So much for the sidearm delivery

[Alexander]

Nope, that statement not only won't fly, it can't even crawl.

It is a myth manufactured by people to explain away laziness or inept drafting by an NFL team. I deplore the "bus driver" term and feel it is completely overused and misinterpreted. Every QB can be a "bus driver". In fact, every good QB is that. When they don't "drive the bus", they are a hotshot poor leader who thinks they can do it all themselves and don't acknowledge their limitations.

The worst thing that ever happened to the position was Trent Dilfer winning a world championship. What people don't understand it that is was the exception. And somehow this exception became some sort of a rule.

 

[Hostile]

It is a myth manufactured by people to explain away laziness or inept drafting by an NFL team. I deplore the "bus driver" term and feel it is completely overused and misinterpreted. Every QB can be a "bus driver". In fact, every good QB is that. When they don't "drive the bus", they are a hotshot poor leader who thinks they can do it all themselves and don't acknowledge their limitations.

The worst thing that ever happened to the position was Trent Dilfer winning a world championship. What people don't understand it that is was the exception. And somehow this exception became some sort of a rule.

I couldn't agree with you more. The very idea that any ham and egger out there who can throw a ball could win it all if all the parts around him are good enough is deplorable and goes against everything that the game is actually about.

I want to see the best players given the respect that they deserve for being phenominal at their craft. That is the essence of the beauty of the game at its core.

The QB is the engine. You can have the best engine in the world and it's no good without the rest of the car. But the rest of the car without that engine is basically just a shell.

For several years this team has been a shell. My dreams and passions of the team are tied up in the past glory because the shell hasn't been good enough to equal the History. I'll always be a fan of the team, but I'll never be satisfied with a shell.

I cringe at the term bus driver because of exactly what you said. Describing a top athlete in such a pedestrian way removes so much of the appeal.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I couldn't agree with you more. The very idea that any ham and egger out there who can throw a ball could win it all if all the parts around him are good enough is deplorable and goes against everything that the game is actually about.

I want to see the best players given the respect that they deserve for being phenominal at their craft. That is the essence of the beauty of the game at its core.

The QB is the engine. You can have the best engine in the world and it's no good without the rest of the car. But the rest of the car without that engine is basically just a shell.

For several years this team has been a shell. My dreams and passions of the team are tied up in the past glory because the shell hasn't been good enough to equal the History. I'll always be a fan of the team, but I'll never be satisfied with a shell.

I cringe at the term bus driver because of exactly what you said. Describing a top athlete in such a pedestrian way removes so much of the appeal.

Well said.

Good quote by Alexander also.

I agree.

For the most part Super Bowls are won by teams with very good defenses and very good offenses. And even the occasional team that didn't have a top-flight QB (any of the Commander's wins) still had several prime offensive weapons.

But still for the most part when you find a team winning the Super Bowl you'll find a very good quarterback on that team and not a "bus driver".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It seems to be the ones that embrace the "bus driver" mentality when it comes to fielding a winner are probably the sames ones that say "size doesn't matter."

 

[RCowboyFan]

It seems to be the ones that embrace the "bus driver" mentality when it comes to fielding a winner are probably the sames ones that say "size doesn't matter."

Ouch, that was low

 

[Cbz40]

It seems to be the ones that embrace the "bus driver" mentality when it comes to fielding a winner are probably the sames ones that say "size doesn't matter."

And a good afternoon to you to Michael.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

And a good afternoon to you to Michael.

Afternoon Pops!

 

[gbrittain]

And Romo's been beat out by

42 Year old VT
Drew Bledsoe
Drew Henson...In 2004

Now going on year 4 and never having thrown a NFL pass...He needs to start doing it.

 

[gbrittain]

Well Cbz, if you look at the recent history of the NFL very few 1st round QB's go on to be superstars or 'franchise qbs'. In fact guys like Tom Brady, Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, Trent Green, etc have shown that being a drafted early means nothing. These were all late round gems.

Tim Couch, Akili Smith, JP Lose-man, Kyle Boller, David Carr, Cade Mcnown, Jim Drunkenmiller, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf, etc all headline a long list of bums that were overhyped coming out of college over the last 5+ years. And based on what I've seen from Eli Manning and Alex Smith so far, you can lump them in the same group too. Some of these clowns are already pumping gas and out of the league that's how big a bust they were. Heck, I remember when people a majority of the experts were saying that Ryan Leif was a FAR BETTER athlete that Manning. The colts even admitted at first they were leaning towards Leif instead of Manning that fateful day.

It's always a gamble taking a QB that high, in fact Big Ben and Carson Palmer(whos future is up in the air after a major injury) are the only ones that have done anything of note in recent years. Mike Vick is known for being a playmaker on the ground, but he is a bust as a passer too.

The bottom line is the days of drafting a true 'stud' first overall or in the first round are long over. And that's what makes guys like Aikman, Elway, Bledsoe, etc so great. They were clearly in a class of their own coming out of college and more than lived up to the hype.

Here is a problem with all the 1st round QB hating going around.

You mentioned Tim Couch, Akili Smith, JP Loseman, Kyle Boller, David Carr, Cade McCown, Jim Drunkenmiller, Joey Harrington, and Ryan Leaf as busts.

What about RBs William Green, TJ Duckett, Thomas Jones, Ron Dayne, Curtis Enis, Ki-Jana Carter.

What about WRs Charles Rogers, Bryant Johnson, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Freddie Mitchel, Peter Warrick, Travis Taylor, Sylvester Morris.

Anyway, I just used RBs and WRs as examples. You will find plenty of prominent picks at any position that are busts.

 

[gbrittain]

It is a myth manufactured by people to explain away laziness or inept drafting by an NFL team. I deplore the "bus driver" term and feel it is completely overused and misinterpreted. Every QB can be a "bus driver". In fact, every good QB is that. When they don't "drive the bus", they are a hotshot poor leader who thinks they can do it all themselves and don't acknowledge their limitations.

The worst thing that ever happened to the position was Trent Dilfer winning a world championship. What people don't understand it that is was the exception. And somehow this exception became some sort of a rule.

What is funny is Antowain Smith a average RB on his very best day started in two Superbowls and Timmy Smith was the starting RB in a Superbowl and set the all time Superbowl single game performance record, but I dont see the same argument being made for RBs.

There are exceptions to all rules.