Henson won't get released - Romo may

[Juke99]

Who's that other " gunslinger" in the NFL?? Oh yeah, I think his name is Favre.

You're mentioning Tony Romo in the same sentence as Favre?

 

[Sasquatch]

No one is saying BP is going to release Romo.

The point being made is that BP is looking for his number 2 QB not to make "dumb" mistakes. Given Romo's extensive college resume, plus his years in the NFL, I think BP expects Romo not to take a "gunslinger" approach. He's mentioned it several times this TC.

That doesn't mean Henson is better. But just that because Romo has played more college ball (a lot more) than Henson, plus his years in the NFL, I think BP expects a bit more at this stage.

Good post. BP has patience provided a player shows consistent improvement. But he is a definite proponent of the 3-year rule. By that point, the "developmental" stage ends and you'd better be a player. Henson has one more year to go before his officially on notice. Time will tell what becomes of Romo but consider Jerry's statements a warning shot of sorts.

 

[Doomsday101]

It depends on what you mean by "running this offense". I think Bledsoe will do a far better job of running it into the ground than any other QB on the roster.

:bang2:

Romo has never set foot in a reg season game Bledsoe has had success in the NFL and as much as some are praising Romo it has been aginst scrubs, that is not a knock on Romo it is the truth. Romo has a ways to go before he is ready to be a starting QB in this league I'm not saying he can't do it but I will say it will not be this season

 

[smashmouth]

Romo has never set foot in a reg season game Bledsoe has had success in the NFL and as much as some are praising Romo it has been aginst scrubs, that is not a knock on Romo it is the truth. Romo has a ways to go before he is ready to be a starting QB in this league I'm not saying he can't do it but I will say it will not be this season

As far as I'm concerned, we don't know what either of these kids can do. How many games have we seen these guys play with first teamers and is that enough to decide which is better?

If you ask me, I want to see Henson more, once again I re-watched the game and Henson made a couple of mistakes, other than that he did okay. In fairness to Romo though, he didin't get an opportunity to throw it much since BP wanted to see M. BIII and we were winning so there was no need to throw it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

And Henson lit it up? :

As ole' Reagan would say..."there you go again".

Re-read my post again Banned.

Where in there did I ever say Henson "looked good" or "lit it up"? Just because I say the obvious, which is that Romo stunk Monday night, that doesn't necessarily mean, BY IMPLICATION, that I thought, or am arguing, that Henson looked good.
I specifically said I was certain Parcells wasn't pleased with ANY of his QBs.

I can and have admitted time after time that Henson needs a lot of work and that I'm pulling for him, but I don't think I have ever read a post in these back-up QB debates where you have ever admitted the obvious point and that is that Romo looks very bad at times, just like all the QBs have.

They call that being "intellectually honest", I think.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I don't think VInny would leave his family on the East Coast to come into a backup situation in a place he was just booed out of. Especially when he is extremely familiar with the politics involved in this situation, particuarly with a owner/GM has a huge mancrush on his lastest (in a long line of) "Aikmans of the Future", and will pull a major power play to get him in the game in a situation if the starter does have to miss considerable time.

So if anyone is cut, the QB coming in will be of the Kordell Stewart variety.

Keep that in mind.

Continue on with your Romo/Henson/Bledsoe bashing.

 

[Doomsday101]

As far as I'm concerned, we don't know what either of these kids can do. How many games have we seen these guys play with first teamers and is that enough to decide which is better?

If you ask me, I want to see Henson more, once again I re-watched the game and Henson made a couple of mistakes, other than that he did okay. In fairness to Romo though, he didin't get an opportunity to throw it much since BP wanted to see M. BIII and we were winning so there was no need to throw it.

That is fair we have not seen a lot but what I have seen thus fars I don't think either one of them at this point is ready and evidently Bill Parcells who sees both daily, both on the field and in the film room evidently does not see it either. Now I know some will say Bill does not know what he is doing or the Bledsoe like Vinny is his guy so no one else is going to get a chance. Myself I don't buy into that I don't think you have the success Bill has had by determining who starts based on his personal relationship with past players. If your on the field it is because your ready and if your on the bench it is because your not ready or your not better than the starter out there.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don't think VInny would leave his family on the East Coast to come into a backup situation in a place he was just booed out of. Especially when he is extremely familiar with the politics involved in this situation, particuarly with a owner/GM has a huge mancrush on his lastest (in a long line of) "Aikmans of the Future", and will pull a major power play to get him in the game in a situation if the starter does have to miss considerable time.

So if anyone is cut, the QB coming in will be of the Kordell Stewart variety.

Keep that in mind.

Continue on with your Romo/Henson/Bledsoe bashing.

Good points, Inman. Thanks for your update today.

We will continue on now...

 

[Tuna Helper]

Romo has never set foot in a reg season game Bledsoe has had success in the NFL and as much as some are praising Romo it has been aginst scrubs, that is not a knock on Romo it is the truth. Romo has a ways to go before he is ready to be a starting QB in this league I'm not saying he can't do it but I will say it will not be this season

Good points, and all well taken, but do realize this...

Romo is the only QB on the current roster that has been here the whole time that Parcells and Sean Payton have been here. Therefore, if he's been awake at least half the time while holding the clipboard, he SHOULD have a better grasp on the offensive system than both others. I, for one, would like to see him amongst first stringers to see how he responds.

I've noticed a distinct difference at this stage of preseason between VT and Bledsoe. VT seemed to have a far better grasp on the offense at this stage, but it could be because he has played for Parcells before (not Sean Payton however).

I know that Hos made the point that Romo seems to have a weak arm, but his passes looked like they had plenty of zip last Monday night. Perhaps he was having an off day in Arizona, but who knows?

 

[Doomsday101]

Good points, and all well taken, but do realize this...

Romo is the only QB on the current roster that has been here the whole time that Parcells and Sean Payton have been here. Therefore, if he's been awake at least half the time while holding the clipboard, he SHOULD have a better grasp on the offensive system than both others. I, for one, would like to see him amongst first stringers to see how he responds.

I've noticed a distinct difference at this stage of preseason between VT and Bledsoe. VT seemed to have a far better grasp on the offense at this stage, but it could be because he has played for Parcells before (not Sean Payton however).

I know that Hos made the point that Romo seems to have a weak arm, but his passes looked like they had plenty of zip last Monday night. Perhaps he was having an off day in Arizona, but who knows?

I think Tony knows the playbook as you said he has been here now 3 years but I have a lot of questions of his abilities arm strenght being one and QB's who rely too much on the short passes end up with many of them returned for TD's as DB start jumping the routs. Also Bill is not being quick to name Romo as the backup at this stage which would lead me to believe that Romo is not making all the correct reads that he should be, I don't know that as a fact more of a gut feeling. In the end though Romo does not have to impress me to get the job he has to impress Bill and as I said I do trust Parcells to get this team back to it's winning ways, I may not always agree with him but at the end of the day I do think he will do what is best for the team.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Romo is a gunslinger without a gun.

IMO he is a lifetime backup.

 

[Hostile]

Romo is a gunslinger without a gun.

IMO he is a lifetime backup.

Ironic post given your avatar picture.

 

[PaEagleHater]

Henson flat out stinks. Wasted third round pick, how long do you give him?

 

[Hostile]

Henson flat out stinks. Wasted third round pick, how long do you give him?

I'd say he'll have a 10 year career, 8 as a starter and be pretty decent to very good.

:wink2:

 

[BigDFan5]

Henson flat out stinks. Wasted third round pick, how long do you give him?

You definately give him more than 1 year

 

[TwoDeep3]

How about we add some facts to this discussion.

Allen Weems, Johnson City, Tenn.: Please give us a heads up here. Is Drew Henson in trouble of being released? You have been mum on the subject. Do you know something and can't divulge it yet? Or is all of this talk a year premature?

Mickey: I'm thinking whatever talk you're hearing is premature. The Cowboys guaranteed Henson $3.5 million, and you want to be sure you've given him every chance to develop before you cut your losses. It's not like they have a better alternative for this season. And, if they do need to bring in a veteran backup for some reason, Henson still can be placed on the practice squad if he should clear waivers. But again, to do that you would have to instantly give him his guaranteed money which would count on this year's cap. Logically and financially, no matter his performance, it would make little sense to cut him this year.

Henson will not be cut. Not unless you want to eat the money owed.

I said this the other day and someone was quick to suggest we have guaranteed nothing to this guy.

WRONG!

If a vet is brought in because Bill doesn't have the confidence in his back-ups, that would include the sentimental favorite that seems to be the next Clint Stoerner for fans on these type of boards, you wreck this year's cap.

So, do you eat 3.5 million this season?

Or cut Romo who hasn't got the talent to be a starter in this league for more than a game or two?

This comes down to simple math.

Henson has a bigger upside and is owed far more money. If push comes to shove, and a back-up with playing experience is warranted in the eyes of Parcells, this team will not cut Henson for financial reasons alone.

Now compound this with the possibility that RT might cause us to fish the FA market quickly and force us to toss money at some guy.

Would you shoot your bundle on cutting a guy or putting him on the practice squad where he would need to clear waivers, and thus be required to pay him most, if not all of your cap space?

No!

So if it comes down to someone being cut - and I have said this for about a month now - Romo is the likely player to find himself unemployed.

This isn't about my favorite or your sentimental pony in this race.

This is about managing the cap and making moves that benefit the team.

You don't cut a guy with a huge amount of guaranteed money when you can cut someone who is not marginally better with far less cap ramifications.

This is about dollars and cents...and a little horse sense.

 

[Hostile]

How about we add some facts to this discussion.

Allen Weems, Johnson City, Tenn.: Please give us a heads up here. Is Drew Henson in trouble of being released? You have been mum on the subject. Do you know something and can't divulge it yet? Or is all of this talk a year premature?



Henson will not be cut. Not unless you want to eat the money owed.

I said this the other day and someone was quick to suggest we have guaranteed nothing to this guy.

WRONG!

If a vet is brought in because Bill doesn't have the confidence in his back-ups, that would include the sentimental favorite that seems to be the next Clint Stoerner for fans on these type of boards, you wreck this year's cap.

So, do you eat 3.5 million this season?

Or cut Romo who hasn't got the talent to be a starter in this league for more than a game or two?

This comes down to simple math.

Henson has a bigger upside and is owed far more money. If push comes to shove, and a back-up with playing experience is warranted in the eyes of Parcells, this team will not cut Henson for financial reasons alone.

Now compound this with the possibility that RT might cause us to fish the FA market quickly and force us to toss money at some guy.

Would you shoot your bundle on cutting a guy or putting him on the practice squad where he would need to clear waivers, and thus be required to pay him most, if not all of your cap space?

No!

So if it comes down to someone being cut - and I have said this for about a month now - Romo is the likely player to find himself unemployed.

This isn't about my favorite or your sentimental pony in this race.

This is about managing the cap and making moves that benefit the team.

You don't cut a guy with a huge amount of guaranteed money when you can cut someone who is not marginally better with far less cap ramifications.

This is about dollars and cents...and a little horse sense.

Outstanding points.

 

[Nors]

The play on the field is dictating what will happen here.

Romo clearly outplaying Henson by most all accounts.
I see Romo #2 today. Henson may not even see field tonight - JMO

Decision is made - BP just has yet to tell.

 

[Fletch]

The play on the field is dictating what will happen here.

Romo clearly outplaying Henson by most all accounts.
I see Romo #2 today. Henson may not even see field tonight - JMO

Decision is made - BP just has yet to tell.

Sorry, decision is yet to be determinded. And Romo SHOULD BE outplaying Henson being that he has been with the Cowboys for 3 frickin years. But I will tell you this, Romo still struggles, and hasn't outplayed Henson by much at all. That right there says that Romo is no more than a career backup IMHO.

 

[ghst187]

The play on the field is dictating what will happen here.

Romo clearly outplaying Henson by most all accounts.
I see Romo #2 today. Henson may not even see field tonight - JMO

Decision is made - BP just has yet to tell.

I don't think it matters that much, Henson has a free pass til next season then its make or break IMO. I don't think anyone, including BP, see Romo as anything more than a career backup. And yeah, you are right, Romo is probably #2 right now and probably should be.
I'm not trying to be a Henson apologist, I totally agree that Romo looks a lot better right now, but I think given Henson's unique situation and guaranteed money, he gets at least this season, next offseason, and probably next season to prove he's got it or not.
I think we could cut Romo and draft someone next draft that could come in and be where he is in a season if we have to. Romo is still expendable.

I think the great debate becomes...what is the long term contingency plan if Henson fails next year? Load up and get a top 5 pick to draft one, or trade and get someone's backup hoping for Delhomme-like production? Rivers and Simms are two names that come to my mind, as well as Volek and the Shwaub guy from Atlanta but none will be had cheaply.