Here We Go Again: 7 wounded 3 dead in Louisiana movie theater shooting, gunman dead

[CyberB0b]

They finally got it through their heads that people in Louisiana didn't like that movie very much.

 

[kimrose]

I really hate that this has happened again. Thank goodness all of the victims seem to have survived.
I love it when the only one that dies is the gunman!

 

[TheCount]

I really hate that this has happened again. Thank goodness all of the victims seem to have survived.
I love it when the only one that dies is the gunman!

They didn't all survive. My best friend lost a childhood friend in the shooting, Jillian Johnson. Another friend of ours has worked at the theater for years and was there when the shooting took place. Been a rough couple of days for some of people I'm close to but they're dealing.

Kind of ridiculous to see the jokes being made in this thread, but everyone handles this stuff in their own way.

 

[kimrose]

They didn't all survive. My best friend lost a childhood friend in the shooting, Jillian Johnson. Another friend of ours has worked at the theater for years and was there when the shooting took place. Been a rough couple of days for some of people I'm close to but they're dealing.

Kind of ridiculous to see the jokes being made in this thread, but everyone handles this stuff in their own way.

Yes, Count, I just saw on my FB page that a woman died. I was coming back here to say that NOT everyone survived! I am so sorry for your loss, my friend. Jillian looked like such a beautiful woman, and such a tragic senseless death. I am sorry for you and for her family. I am really glad now that the Now Murderer is dead. And I agree with you, Count, that incidents like this are nothing to joke about. This is never a funny subject. It is an extremely dangerous and tragic water to tread on. Death is never funny, nor is attack. It is always a serious matter.

 

[DFWJC]

They didn't all survive. My best friend lost a childhood friend in the shooting, Jillian Johnson. Another friend of ours has worked at the theater for years and was there when the shooting took place. Been a rough couple of days for some of people I'm close to but they're dealing.

Kind of ridiculous to see the jokes being made in this thread, but everyone handles this stuff in their own way.

That's terrible, Count.
My condolences

 

[Manwiththeplan]

They didn't all survive. My best friend lost a childhood friend in the shooting, Jillian Johnson. Another friend of ours has worked at the theater for years and was there when the shooting took place. Been a rough couple of days for some of people I'm close to but they're dealing.

Kind of ridiculous to see the jokes being made in this thread, but everyone handles this stuff in their own way.

Yea, no matter where you stand on guns, I don't get the jokes in this thread

 

[Garrettop]

I think we'll see society become more and more a "check-point" society.

And we'uns that are a little older won't see the worst of it.

We've been told that policing ourselves is maladaptive, and so someone else must do it. We are a society of problem shifters and can kickers.

 

[Tabascocat]

So wish we had a private political forum password protected to "try" and discuss things maturely

That seems like an impossible task though.

 

[JoeKing]

Yea, no matter where you stand on guns, I don't get the jokes in this thread

The jokes in this thread were not related to any gun stance.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

The jokes in this thread were not related to any gun stance.

suggesting that they will ban movies, clearly is

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Yes, Count, I just saw on my FB page that a woman died. I was coming back here to say that NOT everyone survived! I am so sorry for your loss, my friend. Jillian looked like such a beautiful woman, and such a tragic senseless death. I am sorry for you and for her family. I am really glad now that the Now Murderer is dead. And I agree with you, Count, that incidents like this are nothing to joke about. This is never a funny subject. It is an extremely dangerous and tragic water to tread on. Death is never funny, nor is attack. It is always a serious matter.

Nothing personal, just an observation. How come when a pretty girl dies in something tragic like this, people always says "She looked like such a beautiful woman/girl/person?" Like that has any relevance. What do they say when ugly girls die?

And I'm not making a joke. Just posing a question in general. Seems like it's more tragic when young, beautiful people die.

 

[JoeKing]

suggesting that they will ban movies, clearly is

No. That has nothing to do with guns at all, pro or con.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

No. That has nothing to do with guns at all, pro or con.

So the banning movies joke, that you didn't make, what did it have to do with?

 

[JoeKing]

So the banning movies joke, that you didn't make, what did it have to do with?

Ask the person that made the comment. I suspect it was meant as satire on the folks that want to ban or boycott everything and how we are slowly losing our freedoms.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Ask the person that made the comment.

then why respond and assume his meaning, when you really don't know?

I suspect it was meant as satire on the folks that want to ban or boycott everything and how we are slowly losing our freedoms.

which is the typical response when someone mentions gun control, ie, ban forks to save fat people from themselves or ban cars to stop traffic deaths, so again, I would say, no matter where you stand on the issue, I don't get the need to joke about the issue.

 

[JoeKing]

then why respond and assume his meaning, when you really don't know?

There's the true message you want to convey... the silencing. If you had your way we would all shut up and only speak when spoken to.

which is the typical response when someone mentions gun control, ie, ban forks to save fat people from themselves or ban cars to stop traffic deaths, so again, I would say, no matter where you stand on the issue, I don't get the need to joke about the issue.

But no one mentioned gun control. You are the only one reading into that anything about gun control.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

There's the true message you want to convey... the silencing. If you had your way we would all shut up and only speak when spoken to.

Not really, you went to tell me how a comment you didn't make was not what I thought and when I asked exactly what they meant, you told me to ask the person who made it.

But no one mentioned gun control. You are the only one reading into that anything about gun control.

yea, no one mentioned it, but that doesn't mean that the joke wasn't made with the same spirit. you more or less confirmed my thinking in what your opinion of the joke.

 

[JoeKing]

Not really, you went to tell me how a comment you didn't make was not what I thought and when I asked exactly what they meant, you told me to ask the person who made it.

If you want to know what they meant then why ask me? But you did ask me and then you asked me why I responded at all. I just can't win with you.

yea, no one mentioned it, but that doesn't mean that the joke wasn't made with the same spirit. you more or less confirmed my thinking in what your opinion of the joke.

I haven't confirmed anything. You see what you want to see whether it's really there or not.

 

[kimrose]

Nothing personal, just an observation. How come when a pretty girl dies in something tragic like this, people always says "She looked like such a beautiful woman/girl/person?" Like that has any relevance. What do they say when ugly girls die?

And I'm not making a joke. Just posing a question in general. Seems like it's more tragic when young, beautiful people die.

Not more tragic, unless you view beauty or not beauty in a different way than only aesthetics. But I do understand your question, and have seen people react like that, just like when a person dies in America, as opposed to, say, Guatemala or Indonesia, or somewhere far from us, can we be bothered with the tragic news of 100 young people dying in a nightclub fire in China? Is it less tragic than two people dying on the freeway in California? Or is it equally tragic, feeling for each one who has died and their loved ones, who are now grieving their loss? Perspective. Something for all of us to think about from time to time. I'm gonna try my best to answer your question as honestly as I can, from my perspective, JoeyBoy, from what I see when I see someone. It is impossible for me to see a person's outside looks first. I always and can only see a person's inside looks first, their spirit or soul. It is just the way I have always been, and how I have always seen people. I hope you don't think I'm too weird. lol

I go on the inside of a person, not the outside. To me, beauty and spirit comes through the eyes and around the body, and it is easily seen. So does greed, smugness, bitterness, conceit, meanness, etc-- which I see as "ugly". Beauty or otherwise, comes more from within a person, rather than at shallow skin level only. Iman is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, and to this day is my favorite supermodel. But, as lovely to behold she is on the outside, it is her Inside that makes her so beautiful to me. Her eyes are so soft and warm, like pure honey; she has every right, at skin level, to be the most self-centered, conceited woman on the planet, but she is not, because her Spirit is so beautiful. The combination of the two are outstanding and make her, IMO, the most beautiful woman in the world.~ I have no use or time for a shallow skin level gorgeous person with a crappy, conceited, self-absorbed attitude, they are ugly to me. In the woman's eyes who was murdered the other day, she looked like a beautiful person, inside and out, a pretty face with a gentle soul. And there is absolutely no harm in pointing that out to someone who has connection to her, and may be helpful to the person who is grieving. And what good would it do for anyone to point out if someone was not beautiful or good when they die? Who would that benefit and how would that help the grieving loved ones to cope with that person's death??

Since the time I wrote the post you are questioning, I have seen the pic of the other woman who died, too, and she looked equally as beautiful to me. I can't speak for anyone else. This is only my perspective. I actually just thought it was obvious that people would see beauty in the good people who were shot and murdered by this latest lunatic. Including the two teachers whose pics were shown also, who were shot, yet still had the goodness and guts to think to save others, and not just themselves. To me, that is beauty.

Example for you, to explain what I mean about how I "see" beauty. Years ago, I was walking in WalMart, when I saw an incredibly beautiful woman walk into the store. Her eyes and skin were glowing with peace and love and maturity, she glowed! She was lovely and so well grounded and comfortable within herself. Then, as I got closer to her, I realized that she was covered in burn scars, from being horribly burned over most of her body at some time in her life. Yet, she had overcome it and her light shined so brightly, that the very last thing on her that I saw, were her burn scars. The very first thing I saw on her, was her Spirit. And it was beautiful, and she was beautiful, even after I noticed her flesh.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Not more tragic, unless you view beauty or not beauty in a different way than only aesthetics. But I do understand your question, and have seen people react like that, just like when a person dies in America, as opposed to, say, Guatemala or Indonesia, or somewhere far from us, can we be bothered with the tragic news of 100 young people dying in a nightclub fire in China? Is it less tragic than two people dying on the freeway in California? Or is it equally tragic, feeling for each one who has died and their loved ones, who are now grieving their loss? Perspective. Something for all of us to think about from time to time. I'm gonna try my best to answer your question as honestly as I can, from my perspective, JoeyBoy, from what I see when I see someone. It is impossible for me to see a person's outside looks first. I always and can only see a person's inside looks first, their spirit or soul. It is just the way I have always been, and how I have always seen people. I hope you don't think I'm too weird. lol

I go on the inside of a person, not the outside. To me, beauty and spirit comes through the eyes and around the body, and it is easily seen. So does greed, smugness, bitterness, conceit, meanness, etc-- which I see as "ugly". Beauty or otherwise, comes more from within a person, rather than at shallow skin level only. Iman is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, and to this day is my favorite supermodel. But, as lovely to behold she is on the outside, it is her Inside that makes her so beautiful to me. Her eyes are so soft and warm, like pure honey; she has every right, at skin level, to be the most self-centered, conceited woman on the planet, but she is not, because her Spirit is so beautiful. The combination of the two are outstanding and make her, IMO, the most beautiful woman in the world.~ I have no use or time for a shallow skin level gorgeous person with a crappy, conceited, self-absorbed attitude, they are ugly to me. In the woman's eyes who was murdered the other day, she looked like a beautiful person, inside and out, a pretty face with a gentle soul. And there is absolutely no harm in pointing that out to someone who has connection to her, and may be helpful to the person who is grieving. And what good would it do for anyone to point out if someone was not beautiful or good when they die? Who would that benefit and how would that help the grieving loved ones to cope with that person's death??

Since the time I wrote the post you are questioning, I have seen the pic of the other woman who died, too, and she looked equally as beautiful to me. I can't speak for anyone else. This is only my perspective. I actually just thought it was obvious that people would see beauty in the good people who were shot and murdered by this latest lunatic. Including the two teachers whose pics were shown also, who were shot, yet still had the goodness and guts to think to save others, and not just themselves. To me, that is beauty.

Example for you, to explain what I mean about how I "see" beauty. Years ago, I was walking in WalMart, when I saw an incredibly beautiful woman walk into the store. Her eyes and skin were glowing with peace and love and maturity, she glowed! She was lovely and so well grounded and comfortable within herself. Then, as I got closer to her, I realized that she was covered in burn scars, from being horribly burned over most of her body at some time in her life. Yet, she had overcome it and her light shined so brightly, that the very last thing on her that I saw, were her burn scars. The very first thing I saw on her, was her Spirit. And it was beautiful, and she was beautiful, even after I noticed her flesh.

Yeah, I wasn't saying anything about you specifically. Your post just made me think about it. I've been around a lot of death (either from things I've witnessed on the news or things that happened in my community) and I've heard so many times people say "They were so beautiful" when the victim was actually extremely physically attractive. Usually happens with young females but even happened with a few guy friends of mine in high school. People say it as if it's more tragic when the victim was young and beautiful. Your comment just made me pose the question. I wasn't singling out you specifically. But thanks for the in depth answer. I know what you mean about trying to look into someone's eyes to see their inner being. Though, I would say, it's hard to really see someone for who they are unless you see them in person. Many people are either photogenic or only post pictures online of them when they're happiest.