Here's an interesting comparison for Romo (Craig Morton)

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Craig Morton threw one more pass than Tony Romo as a Cowboy in their careers so I thought it would be interesting to compare them since they have virtually the same number of attempts:

Morton: Games as starter: 32-14-1 = 69.15%, 1308 Att, 685 Comp, 52.4%, 10279 Yards, 7.9 Avg, 80 TDs, 6.11%, 73 INTs, 5.58%, 82 Sacks, 6.27%, 75.6 QB Rating.

Romo: Games as Starter: 27-12-0 = 69.23%, 1307 Att, 831 Comp, 63.6%, 10562 Yards, 8.1 Avg, 81 TDs, 6.20%, 46 INTs, 3.52%, 65 Sacks, 4.97%, 94.7 QB Rating.

It is interesting how similar their production was on the same number of pass attempts. Pretty close in Yards per attempt, TDs are nearly identical, and their winning percentage is almost the same. Romo plays in a more passer-friendly league so his completion%, INT%, and Passer Rating are significantly better as is his sack%, but otherwise they are pretty close.

Just thought it was interesting.

Just for giggles, here are their rushing stats:

Morton: 74 Att, 246 Yards, 3.32 Avg, 6 TDs
T Romo: 95 Att, 270 Yards, 2.84 Avg, 2 TDs

Romo needs to run better.
 

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That is interesting. I would have expected a much larger difference due to the different eras they played.
 

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dndvalles;2716388 said:
That is interesting. I would have expected a much larger difference due to the different eras they played.

Yeah, that's what jumped out at me as well. The other similarity is that so far, neither guy led his team well in the playoffs. DOH!
 

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not real sure a comparison to Morton makes me feel any better but very
interesting so thanks.
Morton was never a favorite of mine ( or many others ) but he did contribute
to our history.
 

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poke;2716402 said:
not real sure a comparison to Morton makes me feel any better but very
interesting so thanks.
Morton was never a favorite of mine ( or many others ) but he did contribute
to our history.

I hated Morton as our QB because he seemed to play poorly when it counted the most. We had a GREAT defense and running game when he was the starter but he seemed to hold the team back.

That said, he was/is a truly wonderful person. A great guy from all accounts so I always felt bad for disliking him so much as a player. I disliked him even more when he went on to play very well for the Broncos later in his career but we killed him in the SB so that sort of made up for it. :D
 

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THUMPER;2716411 said:
I hated Morton as our QB because he seemed to play poorly when it counted the most. We had a GREAT defense and running game when he was the starter but he seemed to hold the team back.

That said, he was/is a truly wonderful person. A great guy from all accounts so I always felt bad for disliking him so much as a player. I disliked him even more when he went on to play very well for the Broncos later in his career but we killed him in the SB so that sort of made up for it. :D

i liked Morton way more after he left the Boys. I was always a huge Meredith fan and then a huge Staubach fan so I really never gave him a legitimate shot. I too appreciated him losing to us in the SB !!
 

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pancakeman;2716415 said:
I never realized Morton's winning percentage was so high.

He just had the same disease that Danny White had. He couldn't win the big one and made crucial miscues at the worst possible times in those games.

Morton in fact was a pretty good QB who could win a lot of regular season games on some very good teams. I am sure if he were our QB right now, Jerry Jones wouldn't trade him for anyone else either.
 

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Yeah, other than the fact that Morton's td-int ratio is a +7, and Romo's is a +35, they're pretty much the same.

:rolleyes:
 

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pancakeman;2716415 said:
I never realized Morton's winning percentage was so high.

We had a great team back then. Our defense in the late 60s was as dominant as any ever! In 1968 & 69 we gave up a TOTAL of 5 rushing TDs. That's for two years! 2 in '68 & 3 in '69 for a total of 5 TDs over 2 full seasons! And that was in an era when teams ran a LOT. We only gave up 1195 rushing yards in 1968 and 1050 in '69.

People talk about the Ravens defense or the Steel Curtain but we were easily just as good back then and in some ways better because of the style of play and how we did against it.

We also lost only 4 games over those two seasons going 23-4-1 but lost to the Browns big both years in the playoffs.

We led the league in sacks in 1966 with 60! That was in a 14 game season too meaning that we averaged 4.3 sacks per game!

The teams that Morton led as the primary starter were in 1969, 70, & 72 and we went 11-2-1, 10-4, 10-4 in those seasons. We had an excellent defense and very productive running game with Calvin Hill, Walt Garrison, and Duane Thomas.

My biggest gripe against Morton is that we should have won the championship in 1969 and the SB in 1970. That loss to the Colts in SB V was a heartbreaker because we should have won it but Morton sucked in that game. Partly because the Colts had a very good defense but also because he had a tendency to throw high when he was excited. If you ever get a chance to watch a replay of that game you will notice how many of his passes are high and a couple of them were tipped by the receiver and picked off by the defender.
 

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I agree with Thumper in that Romo is more effective when he is running more and keeping the defense off balance. Some of his bigger downfield plays have come from the defense not sure what he will do. I think him standing in the pocket and forcing a throw versus pulling it down and running for a few yards is what hurt him last year. Sometimes a small gain is better than trying for the big play and getting a pic or an incompletion....
 

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coogrfan;2716460 said:
Yeah, other than the fact that Morton's td-int ratio is a +7, and Romo's is a +35, they're pretty much the same.

:rolleyes:

It all depends on how much you put into statistics. TD passes to interception ratio can be skewed by the era. More teams ran for TDs than passed for them. Overall, I would look at the winning percentage and how they did in the postseason. Troy Aikman never had gaudy TD ratios, but he was the most efficient QB in franchise history.
 

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JakeCamp12;2716476 said:
I agree with Thumper in that Romo is more effective when he is running more and keeping the defense off balance. Some of his bigger downfield plays have come from the defense not sure what he will do. I think him standing in the pocket and forcing a throw versus pulling it down and running for a few yards is what hurt him last year. Sometimes a small gain is better than trying for the big play and getting a pic or an incompletion....

I agree. And we did not move the pocket with him nearly as much. If you look back at 2006 and 2007, it was done with much more frequency.
 

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Alexander;2716482 said:
I agree. And we did not move the pocket with him nearly as much. If you look back at 2006 and 2007, it was done with much more frequency.

Yeah, we were more intentional about getting him outside the tackle-box and buying him time.
 

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Alexander;2716456 said:
He just had the same disease that Danny White had. He couldn't win the big one and made crucial miscues at the worst possible times in those games.

Morton in fact was a pretty good QB who could win a lot of regular season games on some very good teams. I am sure if he were our QB right now, Jerry Jones wouldn't trade him for anyone else either.

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Alexander;2716478 said:
It all depends on how much you put into statistics. TD passes to interception ratio can be skewed by the era. More teams ran for TDs than passed for them. Overall, I would look at the winning percentage and how they did in the postseason. Troy Aikman never had gaudy TD ratios, but he was the most efficient QB in franchise history.

Hmm.

Doesn't the fact that one of these qb's was coached by one of the 4-5 greatest HC's ever, and the other has Wade Phillips, kinda skew the comparison as well?
 

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Alexander;2716482 said:
I agree. And we did not move the pocket with him nearly as much. If you look back at 2006 and 2007, it was done with much more frequency.

whoever decided Romo should plant his feet and imitate Brady should be shot...

EDIT: with a watergun (do not want to encourage violence :) )
 

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THUMPER;2716385 said:
Craig Morton threw one more pass than Tony Romo as a Cowboy in their careers so I thought it would be interesting to compare them since they have virtually the same number of attempts:

Morton: Games as starter: 32-14-1 = 69.15%, 1308 Att, 685 Comp, 52.4%, 10279 Yards, 7.9 Avg, 80 TDs, 6.11%, 73 INTs, 5.58%, 82 Sacks, 6.27%, 75.6 QB Rating.

Romo: Games as Starter: 27-12-0 = 69.23%, 1307 Att, 831 Comp, 63.6%, 10562 Yards, 8.1 Avg, 81 TDs, 6.20%, 46 INTs, 3.52%, 65 Sacks, 4.97%, 94.7 QB Rating.

It is interesting how similar their production was on the same number of pass attempts. Pretty close in Yards per attempt, TDs are nearly identical, and their winning percentage is almost the same. Romo plays in a more passer-friendly league so his completion%, INT%, and Passer Rating are significantly better as is his sack%, but otherwise they are pretty close.

Just thought it was interesting.

Just for giggles, here are their rushing stats:

Morton: 74 Att, 246 Yards, 3.32 Avg, 6 TDs
T Romo: 95 Att, 270 Yards, 2.84 Avg, 2 TDs

Romo needs to run better.

That is an interesting comparison. I guess most of those old-time guys didn't take care of the ball as well as Tony does.

I don't agree with you on the 'Tony needs to run better' part. I'm happy with him looking down field while he's heading to the line of scrimmage. He's a good scrambler, when he needs to be. I never want to see him doing it if he can help it.
 

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Alexander;2716456 said:
He just had the same disease that Danny White had. He couldn't win the big one and made crucial miscues at the worst possible times in those games.

Morton in fact was a pretty good QB who could win a lot of regular season games on some very good teams. I am sure if he were our QB right now, Jerry Jones wouldn't trade him for anyone else either.
Meredith's record in "big games" was significantly better :rolleyes:

With all due respect to Don, I will never understand hy he gets a pass win it comes to having never won when it counted the most, while Danny (and Craig to a lesser extent) gets hammered:starspin
 

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Alexander;2716482 said:
I agree. And we did not move the pocket with him nearly as much. If you look back at 2006 and 2007, it was done with much more frequency.

Anyone have the numbers?
It seemed that Romo rarely rolled out this year as compared to the prior year?
 
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