heres what RW said today

[Bleu Star]

Why would we get rid of RW? He promised to try harder.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The idea that this team and specifically this coaching staff - read Jason Garrett - doesn't use all the tools at his disposal, which would be the film room crew, and break down Roy's successful routes and his non-successful routes for both Dallas and Detroit is ridiculous.

Tailoring his routes to those alone and get this guy in a comfort level seems the most logical move and one that should have come six weeks ago.

Roy has problems. It is the coaching staff who are responsible for putting in a place on the field to be successful.

He has to catch the ball. That is his job.

They have to find the places and situations that increase his production. That is their job.

If this team suffered through several seasons of Bobby Carpenter, then the table has been set for them to try and salvage this player.

Salary means nothing.

Signing bonus means nothing.

His place in the hiearchy of the WRs means nothing.

But if this player can double his output of 2009 in 2010, that can only make this team better. Increase the trouble teams will have covering Witten and Austin. And make the draws and screens more effective.

Then 10-6 or 11-5 might increase to the point where the last game of the season is not so critical.

Gripe, complain, whine and kvetch, but it is in the teams best interest in turning this guy around production-wise.

And it is incumbant on the team - coaching staff and management - to make turn this into a positive.

 

[Four]

Couldn't agree with you more. Fans have had similar anti-player rants against Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Mike Jenkins, and Anthony Spencer in the last 2 years. Every one of those now look foolish.

they do not, they moved on to the next nonsense to complain about and they think no one remembers.

and the way people change names around here, it's hard to keep up...lol

no one here remembers your name used to be Nors.

 

[CowboyManDan]

I like Roy. Don't ask me why, he just seems genuine. Is he having problems? Absolutely. Did we make a mistake in what we gave up for him? As of right now, yes. However, hindsight is 20/20 and right now all we can do is root for the guy. I for one am cheering for him, if he can step his game up we will be that much better.

He has a lot of potential and he's drama free. I think his big contract and coming to Dallas might have given him an ego and now he's been humbled. I hope he works his tail off and becomes what everyone expects of him.

+1

I was hoping we'd trade for him and do expect more from him. Dallas media gives him a lot of attention, but he's really not a prima donna type receiver. I still expect something to "turn on" between Romo to Williams.

It did take what, 4 years for Romo to Austin to click? Obviously Austin wasn't playing much in years 1-3, but when he was getting chances in years 2-3, he would often get hurt and occasionally drop the ball...to the point they couldn't keep him on the field. What if we ran Austin out of town at that point?

 

[ThePlaymaker14]

Barber has fallen off because teams figured out (Finally!) that you just have to tackle his legs and he's toast. It took them 3 years to figure out that going up high wasn't going to work very well. Now he's just like JJ and goes down relatively easy.

How many broken tackles in prior seasons came from the stiff arm he used to do that's now illegal? Probably a good amount of them. I wouldn't be surprised if that counts for most of the difference in broken tackles.

You have to look at the type of runner he is and understand he isn't going to run for 5+ ypc. Power backs typically don't break really long runs which skew your ypc. Thus why we have a combination of Felix and Barber. Look at Jerome Bettis, I think most would agree he was a very good RB. His career average was 3.9 ypc and only 4/13 seasons did he average more than 4.0.

Once Garrett stops calling those deep hand offs every single fourth and short(which i really dont get why he calls those all the time they're terrible) i think we'll see barber look better on short and goalline situations then we have as well.

 

[Kangaroo]

they do not, they moved on to the next nonsense to complain about and they think no one remembers.

and the way people change names around here, it's hard to keep up...lol

no one here remembers your name used to be Nors.

I been consistent on who I like to see replaced but then I am not one of the people that think we should have a Pro Bowler at every position. I also do not over react on young guys struggling. I also realize just because you want a guy replaced it want happen right away contracts matter.

So while we have a few that want to constantly replace guys I rather keep some of the solid players we drafted I just do not want Jerry to over pay like he did Barber. Like Chris Canty I wanted him to stay but the Giants way overpayed for the guy and that is what this team can not over pay anymore for guys that are solid players. I also wanted to keep Burnett but he was overpayed as well by another team.

 

[This is Our Year]

As long as Williams puts the visor back on I'll be happy. The guy looks much better with that thing on imo. Heck, he wore it at Texas and it didn't bother him there. Put the visor back on Roy it looks better.

:starspin

 

[Eskimo]

My opinion is Felix needs to be the first and second down back and Choice on third. I like Barber, but we have 2 better backs knocking on his door. I still see Barber getting traded in the offseason.

no one will take him with that albatross of a contract and rapidly declining production. He probably is waived in the offseason after being asked to restructure.

 

[nflandbooze]

I am not for cutting him but I am for sending him a message by demoting him from starter to coming in off the bench. It's not like he is producing anyway so whoever replaces him in the starting lineup would at least come close or surpass his production.

I'm with you. I don't get the Cowboys fans that put Roy ahead of the team. Roy has had 24 games to figure it all out in Dallas, and he still doesn't get it. Wake up. He's just not going to get it this year. He's out of time.

This is not the time to be cute and stick with something that hasn't been working since he arrived. It's too late for that this season, and if it wasn't for his contract and the deal it took to get him, he'd already be on the bench. Keeping this guy out there for the far majority of the snaps this season is only going to hurt the Cowboys. Maybe some people are ok with that as long as it's a Longhorn hurting Dallas. I don't know, but I know keeping him out there as much as he is out there is idiotic at this point.

Personally, I'd prefer to see the team excel, because I'm not really into the whole lose to Philly at the end of the season and then go on to add another year to streak of no playoff wins. I believe having less of Roy on the field this season is a good way to take these last few games seriously, instead of appeasing anyones ego, or trying to be kind to someones feelings. That crap needs to wait until next season at this point.

 

[DallasEast]

The idea that this team and specifically this coaching staff - read Jason Garrett - doesn't use all the tools at his disposal, which would be the film room crew, and break down Roy's successful routes and his non-successful routes for both Dallas and Detroit is ridiculous.

Tailoring his routes to those alone and get this guy in a comfort level seems the most logical move and one that should have come six weeks ago.

Roy has problems. It is the coaching staff who are responsible for putting in a place on the field to be successful.

He has to catch the ball. That is his job.

They have to find the places and situations that increase his production. That is their job.

If this team suffered through several seasons of Bobby Carpenter, then the table has been set for them to try and salvage this player.

Salary means nothing.

Signing bonus means nothing.

His place in the hiearchy of the WRs means nothing.

But if this player can double his output of 2009 in 2010, that can only make this team better. Increase the trouble teams will have covering Witten and Austin. And make the draws and screens more effective.

Then 10-6 or 11-5 might increase to the point where the last game of the season is not so critical.

Gripe, complain, whine and kvetch, but it is in the teams best interest in turning this guy around production-wise.

And it is incumbant on the team - coaching staff and management - to make turn this into a positive.

Bold--> Quoted For Truth.

Great post. In the end, regardless (literally) of anyone's personal insight, this is still the NFL. It is not a video game.

Teeth will gnash. Blood pressures will escalate. Ruing will reach epic levels, but in the end, only teams themselves decide what is in their best interests for both their present and future.

Here's hoping that Roy Williams meets their expectations during his Cowboys career. If so, it will result in a successful one for the team and that's the only thing that really matters.

 

[Taz]

look at it this way would buffalo trade TO for RW maybe
would dallas trade RW for TO, NO

 

[juck]

Releasing Roy would be momumentally stupid, there is no salary cap next year so it doesnt matter what he is making. If he is still dropping passes left and right next year, demote his arse.

I believe we could cut him and only have to pay the guarenteed money.He blows. Cut him draft a real WR.

 

[ghst187]

I'm sorry, but the pressure to drop Roy after one full season here is why I'm glad fans and the media don't run this franchise. Yeah, he's performed way below expectations, but to give up what we gave and hen release him this quickly would only exasperate the problem IMO. Give him time and if things don't work out next year, demote him.

I would start integrating Ogletree more in the offense this coming offseason and early next year and see what plays out. Heck, if Dez or Damian Williams dropped to us and we picked one of them up, I'd still give Roy a chance to prove himself but he'd only have about half a season next year to do it.
I'm personally ready to cut him but I know that we should give him at least part of next year.
How much nicer would've it have been to get Torry Holt or TJ Housyurmama instead of Roy, and cheaper?

 

[clutch88]

I like Roy. Don't ask me why, he just seems genuine. Is he having problems? Absolutely. Did we make a mistake in what we gave up for him? As of right now, yes. However, hindsight is 20/20 and right now all we can do is root for the guy. I for one am cheering for him, if he can step his game up we will be that much better.

He has a lot of potential and he's drama free. I think his big contract and coming to Dallas might have given him an ego and now he's been humbled. I hope he works his tail off and becomes what everyone expects of him.

Well said.

 

[Randy White]

The Cowboys would have to pay Williams close to $9 million next season in bonus money, whether he's on the roster or not.

Well, that answers my question. No way the Cowboys can cut him, regardless if there's a cap or not. over 18 million dollars in 3 years on players that are not on the roster is unacceptable. Especially when one of them is just 28 years old.

 

[Randy White]

Releasing Roy would be momumentally stupid, there is no salary cap next year so it doesnt matter what he is making..

Next year is not the problem. The problems start AFTER next year, if he doesn't improve. While there's a strong possibility there will be no cap in 2010, there's an even stronger possibility they will be one in 2011, perhaps a more stricter cap. THEN the Cowboys are truly stuck with him no matter what because it would be nearly improbable to cut him due to the cap.

But, it doesn't matter anyways due to the bonus. We have to hope that he turns it around because he's going to be here through at least 2011, perhaps beyond.

 

[ethiostar]

At least he is saying all the right things and not blaming anyone for his drops. I think he will right the situation, hopefully very soon.

I've said this before but all he needs to do is RELAX and play ball, like he's done since high school. He is thinking too much and trying to do too much because of the media focus that comes from playing for the Cowboys and criticism of fans and media. He also labeled himself as the #1 WR (perhaps a mistake in hindsight) and he is getting outplayed by an UDFA. He is pressing a little too hard right now. He needs to ignore the vaulted expectations he and others placed on him and do his thing. Concentrate on catching the ball, period. He doesn't need to light up the league, just move the chains at least for the now.

Its not his fault Jerry gave up a #1 and #3 for him, nor is it his fault that he is getting payed what he's getting paid. He has little to no control over that. What he can control is what he says off the field and can do on the field. He is saying all the right things, now its time to play ball.

 

[tyke1doe]

Couldn't agree with you more. Fans have had similar anti-player rants against Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Mike Jenkins, and Anthony Spencer in the last 2 years. Every one of those now look foolish.

Add Romo and even Miles Austin (remember when he was too injury prone to be reliable) to that list.

 

[Hostile]

look at it this way would buffalo trade TO for RW maybe
would dallas trade RW for TO, NO

Sp true and so ignored.

 

[Hostile]

I'm with you...

I don't get your sig. What is the star all about?