Hidden time of possession

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

 

[TheDude]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

There are just as many cons. The defense pretty accustomed to not jumping the count. You can make the lineman hold the stance too long and risk a false start. The defense gets a few extra seconds to catch its breath. Overall, you are reacting to the defense vs dictating. The last 2 drives were snapped with 14-30 seconds on the clock for the most part and Romo was 11/12 with 2 TDs.

 

[Kevinicus]

Against most teams, I would say that is pointless time of possession. It certainly doesn't wear out the other teams D. However, against Philly, any additional rest for our D may be appreciated.

Real time of possession comes from first downs though.

 

[DallasEast]

Excellent point. Running the play clock down to one second irritates me but the practice is essential for using against opponents like the Eagles this week. The unhidden secret of Chip Kelly's offensive genius is generating more scoring opportunities by creating more offensive possessions through the hurry up offense. There's nothing like subtracting more time of possession from his strategy and defeating it in the process.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would rather take it to 1 second and be in the right play than snapping it early and being in a bad play. Romo vs NY yes he took it to 1 he also stood their pointing out the blitzes and calling adjustments and did it perfectly.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

I read an article that said the big reason its always down to one or two seconds is because Romo is taking as much time as he can to survey the defense and help the line call out the blocking assignments for pass protection or run blocking based on what he is seeing. If you watch he is coming back to the line and pointing at rushers and getting the blocking assignments done.

 

[xwalker]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

Good observation.

The primary reason that Romo does it is because he does not want the defense to move just before the snap. Oddly letting the defense know exactly when the ball will be snapped forces them to get in their final alignment.

I wouldn't mind if he snapped it at 2 seconds remaining instead of 1.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Time of possession is irrelevant until it is mathematically possible to run out the clock while ahead; you could just as easily said that when we suddenly found ourselves down 10 late in the fourth that we wanted all of those seconds back.

It drives me crazy but I just have to accept that he's going to do it. I have to say that Frederick must have uncanny timing because it always seems like we snap it late but they never call it.

 

[windjc]

Good observation.

The primary reason that Romo does it is because he does not want the defense to move just before the snap. Oddly letting the defense know exactly when the ball will be snapped forces them to get in their final alignment.

I wouldn't mind if he snapped it at 2 seconds remaining instead of 1.

This + what the poster before said about Romo using every second to survey the defense. Yes, we aren't going to get many defensive offside penalties but its a tradeoff.

Romo sliced and diced NY using this strategy so to complain about it is RIDICULOUS.

However, I suspect as the season goes along we will see this sprinkled in like we did last year. The Giants know us so well, Romo was really spending every ounce of energy and time available to set up every play to succeed.

 

[Nightman]

I would rather take it to 1 second and be in the right play than snapping it early and being in a bad play. Romo vs NY yes he took it to 1 he also stood their pointing out the blitzes and calling adjustments and did it perfectly.

They do get to the line later than most teams it seems.

I understand what Romo is doing but he could do it a little sooner IMO

 

[TheDude]

This + what the poster before said about Romo using every second to survey the defense. Yes, we aren't going to get many defensive offside penalties but its a tradeoff.

Romo sliced and diced NY using this strategy so to complain about it is RIDICULOUS.

However, I suspect as the season goes along we will see this sprinkled in like we did last year. The Giants know us so well, Romo was really spending every ounce of energy and time available to set up every play to succeed.

How do we explain the last 2 drive results when snapping it at 13-30 seconds.

Carved em up better in those drives if we are comparing

 

[Doomsday101]

They do get to the line later than most teams it seems.

I understand what Romo is doing but he could do it a little sooner IMO

I feel confident Romo know what he is doing. Does not bother me in the least.

 

[Paniolo22]

How do we explain the last 2 drive results when snapping it at 13-30 seconds.

Carved em up better in those drives if we are comparing

That's because we have the best play caller running the offense during those times.

 

[CATCH17]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

The theory behind it makes sense but when you clearly can't build a rhythm because of it then maybe it should be tossed out the window for that week.


We needed to overwhelm the Giants.. Not lull everyone to sleep including our own players.

Dallas needs to be fast paced and THEN when you have a lead start running the clock down.


Between the running the clock down, and commercials we found ourselves in a huge hole once the turnovers started happening.

No rhythm.

 

[CATCH17]

I feel confident Romo know what he is doing. Does not bother me in the least.

I honestly believe this is the reason players like Dez drop the ball when no one is around them.

Everyone is just lulled to sleep with the lack of rhythm.

I could understand if he would've dropped that pass in traffic or something but he had clearly lost some focus.

 

[windjc]

How do we explain the last 2 drive results when snapping it at 13-30 seconds.

Carved em up better in those drives if we are comparing

Easy McFly. Those two drives were called "2 minute offense." We aren't going to play that all game long. We were just as good with the regular offense, except for turnovers and penalties and dropped balls. Noone dropped a ball or had a penalty on those 2 drives.

 

[iceberg]

I know everyone keeps asking and wondering why we take the clock down to 1 second before snapping the ball. obviously romo is trying to force the defense to show its hands and so he can set up the play and the protection, but I think there is also a hidden benefit, in time of possession. assuming most teams would snap the ball at about 4 seconds, just holding the ball an additional 3 seconds per play, and assuming an average of 60 plays per game, would translate to 180 seconds or about 3 minutes. not sure if it makes a difference, but as long as our offense is on the field and not the other team, that's a big benefit no matter how you calculate it. its kind of hidden in the plays we are on the field.

could bite you in the hiney hole later if you only have oh, say 1:07 left to go the distance of the field and you left no time for later.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There are just as many cons. The defense pretty accustomed to not jumping the count. You can make the lineman hold the stance too long and risk a false start. The defense gets a few extra seconds to catch its breath. Overall, you are reacting to the defense vs dictating. The last 2 drives were snapped with 14-30 seconds on the clock for the most part and Romo was 11/12 with 2 TDs.

well last two drives we were fighting the clock not to end the game.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How do we explain the last 2 drive results when snapping it at 13-30 seconds.

Carved em up better in those drives if we are comparing

I guess that's the other side of the coin. the last two drives we needed all the seconds, literally. and I thought of it a little more, actually its probably around 1.5 to 2 minutes gained, given the clock stops on incomplete passes and out of bounce plays.

 

[Doomsday101]

I honestly believe this is the reason players like Dez drop the ball when no one is around them.

Everyone is just lulled to sleep with the lack of rhythm.

I could understand if he would've dropped that pass in traffic or something but he had clearly lost some focus.

Dez dropped it, he does not do it often has nothing to do with the snap