Hindsight is 20/20. Just stop. Running the ball was the right decision.

[Staubacher]

Romo could of moved back up into the pocket prior to going down. He ran further backwards to try to rescue a broken play, and that was a bad decision.

No it wasn't. He didn't turn the ball over once today. He gave the team 10 points leads TWICE in the 4th. The defense allowed 24 4th quarter points and the HC is an idiot.

 

[Miller]

Kneeling also takes away any chance of getting a first down. At least with running the ball, you get an opportunity to pick up a first down - which, if obtained, would have 100% sealed the win for Dallas.


The benefits of running outweighed the benefits of kneeling.

Obviously it didn't, did it?. You are just building in excuses for Garrett. You are limiting mistakes and running clock. Even if you ran the first 2 plays and that gives you a 3rd and longer then you kneel. Overall it was a fail.

 

[Red Dragon]

If you punt it to the 10 yard line and there's 25 seconds on the clock, they need a miracle to even have a chance at a FG.

Yes, if. The ball could have rolled into the end zone for a touchback. That would have been ball at the 20-yard line instead.

And that "miracle" isn't all that far-fetched; a deep pass interference penalty could do it. Knowing this Cowboys team, who wouldn't imagine that there might be some 45-yard PI flag on a Lions Hail Mary?

 

[Eric_Boyer]

No it wasn't. He didn't turn the ball over once today. He gave the team 10 points leads TWICE in the 4th. The defense allowed 24 4th quarter points and the HC is an idiot.

sorry, but on a busted play, his best decision would of been to move back into the pocket and keep the clock moving.

 

[Staubacher]

sorry, but on a busted play, his best decision would of been to move back into the pocket and keep the clock moving.

Nope. He played it safe. If he fumbles scrambling or throws a pick you'd be singing a different tune.

But I'm done arguing a play that didn't cost us the game. You feel free blaming romo lol

 

[Wizarus]

To get 10 yards on three running plays, you only need to average about three yards and a half per play.

It's reasonable for a coach to expect that of his players.


Furthermore, running the ball isn't just for the sake of picking up a first down. You also get a closer FG try if you have to try an FG.

It's not reasonable when your team flat-out sucks at it, and has all game. It's not reasonable when the last drive you tried THE EXACT SAME THING, and got negative yardage from it. And surprise, surprise, we got negative yardage out of the last drive too. Because it's predictable and the Dallas sucks at it.

Part of being HC is knowing your team's strengths and weaknesses and what to call based on that. Garret should have known we were not going to get anything on the ground, it's illogical based on previous attempts to believe that we were.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Nope. He played it safe. If he fumbles scrambling or throws a pick you'd be singing a different tune.

But I'm done arguing a play that didn't cost us the game. You feel free blaming romo lol

of course it didn't cost us the game, but it was a mistake. in that situation, you throw it if you have a shot at a completion, otherwise eat the ball and keep the clock moving. throwing the ball away is Detroit's best scenario, and Romo gave them exactly that.

 

[DallasJ7]

Yes, if. The ball could have rolled into the end zone for a touchback. That would have been ball at the 20-yard line instead.

And that "miracle" isn't all that far-fetched; a deep pass interference penalty could do it. Knowing this Cowboys team, who wouldn't imagine that there might be some 45-yard PI flag on a Lions Hail Mary?

All those are possibilities, but punting from that close, you should be able to avoid a touchback a pretty high percentage of the time. I mean, if it's a 50-yard FG, it is a pretty close decision between letting your pro-bowl caliber kicker make it a 6 point game, or trying to pin them deep. Either decision could be defended.

My main problem with that sequence was the 3rd down play - too much can go wrong with a run to the outside like that. A first down was never happening.

 

[Miller]

It's not reasonable when your team flat-out sucks at it, and has all game. It's not reasonable when the last drive you tried THE EXACT SAME THING, and got negative yardage from it. And surprise, surprise, we got negative yardage out of the last drive too. Because it's predictable and the Dallas sucks at it.

Part of being HC is knowing your team's strengths and weaknesses and what to call based on that. Garret should have known we were not going to get anything on the ground, it's illogical based on previous attempts to believe that we were.

It's also not reasonable because its not that easy. If getting a little over 3 yards a carry was expected all game then you'd be unstoppable and just run the ball and ice any game. There were many logical plays at the end.....kneel all 3 downs...run twice and see what you get and then kneel on 3rd and kick FG...same as the last but punt and give them 20 seconds...kneel 3 times and punt. All were better than running 3 plays and kicking a FG which game them a minute left overall. We already saw on possession before that running it to waste clock was what they were sitting on. As I said earlier, if you are running it 3 times, do it the possession before once it was 3rd and long and you knew clock needed to run. Instead the Romo roll out was a free timeout. Overall it was a coaching fail.

My main problem with that sequence was the 3rd down play - too much can go wrong with a run to the outside like that. A first down was never happening.

Right!!

 

[nalam]

Kneeling three straight times would have given the Cowboys a 52-yard field goal attempt, or somewhere around that distance. Running the ball three straight times, at least in theory, would have moved the ball closer towards a better field goal distance - which it did, Dallas had a 44-yard try.

A 52-yarder isn't something you can take for granted at all, regardless of how good the kicker.

But it wud have left 20 secs in clock

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Yes, if. The ball could have rolled into the end zone for a touchback. That would have been ball at the 20-yard line instead.

And that "miracle" isn't all that far-fetched; a deep pass interference penalty could do it. Knowing this Cowboys team, who wouldn't imagine that there might be some 45-yard PI flag on a Lions Hail Mary?

hhahahahah with 25 seconds and no timeouts ? thats absurd.

 

[bracey]

you kneel it 3 times and punt the football . They get it back with 25 seconds and no timeouts . Easy win.

There is no coach in football that would have done that. I've never seen that in 30 years of watching this game.

 

[movaughn88]

There is no coach in football that would have done that. I've never seen that in 30 years of watching this game.

Agree. I would perhaps agree with the kneel on 3rd down scenario in hindsight. But seriously, how many people on this board (or on the earth) on that 3rd down were thinking "we better kneel here because if we run and get a holding call the clock is going to stop and they will have time left". If anyone really thought that, I tip my hat to them. I think it's a bit of a stretch to expect a head coach to think that in the space of 20 seconds during a crunch time situation.

Also people are forgetting Tanner got 9 yards on that run.

 

[Miller]

There is no coach in football that would have done that. I've never seen that in 30 years of watching this game.

There are plenty that would have. Drew Pearson and others are saying the same

 

[bracey]

There are plenty that would have. Drew Pearson and others are saying the same

Give me the example of when it's happened.

 

[Miller]

Give me the example of when it's happened.

In the history of watching since 1975. Plenty. What is so unexplainable about kneeling and then punting? You are trying to a)protect the ball and b) run clock. That's it in that situation. I'd trust ex-players saying the same. You adjust to the game. Something Garrett doesn't do.

 

[bracey]

In the history of watching since 1975. Plenty. What is so unexplainable about kneeling and then punting? You are trying to a)protect the ball and b) run clock. That's it in that situation. I'd trust ex-players saying the same. You adjust to the game. Something Garrett doesn't do.

Then you should be able to link me to the play by play of one.

 

[Red Dragon]

There are plenty that would have. Drew Pearson and others are saying the same

Source?

 

[Red Dragon]

In the history of watching since 1975. Plenty. .

Then show us.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

There is no coach in football that would have done that. I've never seen that in 30 years of watching this game.

haha i nominate this one for post of the day . This happens too many times to even count .