Hip Drop: The Pollard (or Mahommes) Rule?

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I know some will say the NFL might as well go to flag football if they ban the Hip Drop tackle, but there is not denying it's a dangerous technique, just like the Roy Williams Horse Collar. I think tacklers know they have a high chance of injuring the runner by performing this tackle. I'd bet teammates don't tackle one another like this in practice because of the risk.
 

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It's the same kind of "tackle" which broke Dak's leg and turned it 90° sideways. o_O He is lucky to still be playing and walking back to normal.

This is not the way anyone is taught to tackle in football. Ever since the horse collar rule was implemented, I don't understand why the NFL did nothing about banning this kind of "tackle" since it is much more dangerous to a ball carrier than the horse collar one is? I hope the NFL bans this type of tackling. Players have lost their careers because of suffering broken legs/bones, turned around feet, torn ligaments and tendons because of this type of "tackling".
 

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Go look at the Deebo Samuel injury he suffered against TB earlier in the season; it was also a hip drop. I know everyone will say the game is happening really fast and these guys are doing anything they can to stop the runner's progress, but really, I don't think I can be convinced that tacklers don't know they are potentially going to injure that runner they're tackling with this technique. Yes, it's just as dangerous the horse collar, if not more so.
 

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It's the same kind of "tackle" which broke Dak's leg and turned it 90° sideways. o_O He is lucky to still be playing and walking back to normal.

This is not the way anyone is taught to tackle in football. Ever since the horse collar rule was implemented, I don't understand why the NFL did nothing about banning this kind of "tackle" since it is much more dangerous to a ball carrier than the horse collar one is? I hope the NFL bans this type of tackling. Players have lost their careers because of suffering broken legs/bones, turned around feet, torn ligaments and tendons because of this type of "tackling".
Banning this type of tackling is fine. But you should ban gloves and stick um for receivers and put a 12th defender in on defense. Perhaps move the goal posts closer together. Way too much offense. Game needs to be balanced on both sides of the ball.
 

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Banning this type of tackling is fine. But you should ban gloves and stick um for receivers and put a 12th defender in on defense. Perhaps move the goal posts closer together. Way too much offense. Game needs to be balanced on both sides of the ball.
You were doing fine until you got ridiculous with the...
put a 12th defender in on defense. Perhaps move the goal posts closer together.
...part. Bottom line, this hip drop "tackling" is not tackling.
 

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I said this the moment I saw the tackle. He tackled him on purpose that way to remove him from the game. I'm convinced of that because no other player was tackled this way the entire game long. Dirty coach teaching dirty tactics.
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Ward has done some borderline dirty stuff before. I live in the Bay Area and have to follow Whiner football unfortunately. Off topic, but as much as I hate the Fecals, I hope they destroy the 9ers so I can listen to the local radio sports stations crying over the end of the Purdy Party.
 

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Ward has done some borderline dirty stuff before. I live in the Bay Area and have to follow Whiner football unfortunately. Off topic, but as much as I hate the Fecals, I hope they destroy the 9ers so I can listen to the local radio sports stations crying over the end of the Purdy Party.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
 

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What is the essential difference between the hip drop and the horse collar?

Grabbing the collar of the ball carrier before doing the hip drop. That's it.

The tackler pulls himself around to put his hips on the backs of the legs of the runner in both cases. This is creating a fulcrum to pivot the hips in both cases.
 

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I know some will say the NFL might as well go to flag football if they ban the Hip Drop tackle, but there is not denying it's a dangerous technique, just like the Roy Williams Horse Collar. I think tacklers know they have a high chance of injuring the runner by performing this tackle. I'd bet teammates don't tackle one another like this in practice because of the risk.
I do not like the way the NFL is officiating the physical part out of the game out. This is not an appropriate tackle in my opinion. It is not a physical take down and it is not a good tackle technique. It's a bail out reaction to being out of position and last ditch effort to bring the ball carrier down.

The offensive player is in a comprised position and has very little ability to protect himself.
 

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I said this the moment I saw the tackle. He tackled him on purpose that way to remove him from the game. I'm convinced of that because no other player was tackled this way the entire game long. Dirty coach teaching dirty tactics.
I don’t think the initial tackle was dirty. To me, it was the extra pulling him back on his way down which was dirty.
 

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It could be perceived as dirty I guess, but it's not illegal, so it is what it is.
 

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There is a tweet out there, that the competition committee is going to take a look at this.
After Mahomes as well as Pollard hits.

Anyone remember the Dallas WR got his ankle or leg broken in the playoff game some time back, Hurns?
Same type of tackle.
It is a dirty play. I think the one on Pollard could have been avoided.
 

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What is the essential difference between the hip drop and the horse collar?

Grabbing the collar of the ball carrier before doing the hip drop. That's it.

The tackler pulls himself around to put his hips on the backs of the legs of the runner in both cases. This is creating a fulcrum to pivot the hips in both cases.
The horse collar doesn't require the tackler to touch anything other than the back of the collar. It's the being pulled down and back that endangers the spine.
 

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Gonna have to wait for a Cowboy player to cause injuries for them to ban it
 
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