Hip Drop: The Pollard (or Mahommes) Rule?

[Clove]

If you grab someone from behind, whether the horse collar or wherever from behind, as long as you keep your feet on the ground, it's not as dangerous as if you then ride the player, and undercut his legs while bringing him down. I see that dirty **** all the time. Guys didn't tackle that way when I was playing.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Will see if the league will do something but don’t see anything happening.

 

[Creeper]

For those who remember, Roy Williams would horse collar a player AND drop his body onto the back of a players legs, essentially holding the runners legs in place while he pulled the runner backwards by the pads. So they outlawed tackling by the shoulder pads from behind. But the real problem was and always has been pinning the legs under the body. I don't know if some players use the tackle to injure other players. I don't think so, but I do think they should look at it to see if there is a way to prevent injuries like Pollards. I have seen many players hurt by this tackle on all teams. Some worse than others but it almost always results in an injury of some sort.

I do think this type of tackle can be avoided. The tackler simply has to wrap up the runner and not pull his body into the runner's legs.

 

[Jake]

Let's outlaw another method of tackling. Can't hit them high, can't hit them when they're not looking, can't grab the collar of their shirt, and now you can't leave your feet.

Between that and the "roughing the passer" and blindside block rules, let's turn it into the National Flag Football League and be done with it, already.

 

[Motorola]

I know some will say the NFL might as well go to flag football if they ban the Hip Drop tackle, but there is not denying it's a dangerous technique, just like the Roy Williams Horse Collar. I think tacklers know they have a high chance of injuring the runner by performing this tackle. I'd bet teammates don't tackle one another like this in practice because of the risk.

It's the same kind of "tackle" which broke Dak's leg and turned it 90° sideways. He is lucky to still be playing and walking back to normal.

This is not the way anyone is taught to tackle in football. Ever since the horse collar rule was implemented, I don't understand why the NFL did nothing about banning this kind of "tackle" since it is much more dangerous to a ball carrier than the horse collar one is? I hope the NFL bans this type of tackling. Players have lost their careers because of suffering broken legs/bones, turned around feet, torn ligaments and tendons because of this type of "tackling".

It should be banned, no different than a horse collar in terms of injury potential.

There is a tweet out there, that the competition committee is going to take a look at this.
After Mahomes as well as Pollard hits.

Anyone remember the Dallas WR got his ankle or leg broken in the playoff game some time back, Hurns?
Same type of tackle.
It is a dirty play. I think the one on Pollard could have been avoideed.

The competition committee and the NFLPA team representatives should schedule (and announce) a joint forum about this serious issue ASAP.
It should take place during the time after Super Bowl and before the NFL 2023 year begins = a month -- February 13th to March 15th.
I don't recall the process that led to the "horse-collar" penalty being ratified - but if it results in the "hip-drop" tackle being banned earlier than what I proposed - I'm all for that.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

It was the same kind of tackle that injured Tony Pollard and Patrick Mahomes. The league is checking it out to see if a rules change is warranted.

excerpt:

NFL to review 'mechanics' of tackle that injured Cowboys' Tony Pollard, per report​

Cydney Henderson​

USA TODAY​

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The tackle that ended Dallas Cowboys running back Tony Pollard's season is under review and could potentially lead to a rule change.​

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The NFL's Competition Committee will review the "mechanics of the tackle in Pollard’s case," the Washington Post reported on Saturday. Pollard suffered a broken left fibula and high ankle sprain in Dallas' 19-12 loss against the San Francisco 49ers in the divisional round of the NFL playoffs last week. ​

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With 1:24 left to play in the first half, Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott threw a checkdown pass to Pollard in the middle of the field. As Pollard tried to escape 49ers defensive back Jimmie Ward, he had his left foot caught underneath Ward's weight as Ward brought him to the turf.​

full article:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...6WLpVTIFbocQDmLt8VDKJCT0U-_KkB8GQSZuOrzGcrdJ4

 

[john van brocklin]

It was the same kind of tackle that injured Tony Pollard and Patrick Mahomes. The league is checking it out to see if a rules change is warranted.

excerpt:

NFL to review 'mechanics' of tackle that injured Cowboys' Tony Pollard, per report​

Cydney Henderson​

USA TODAY​

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The tackle that ended Dallas Cowboys running back Tony Pollard's season is under review and could potentially lead to a rule change.​

​

The NFL's Competition Committee will review the "mechanics of the tackle in Pollard’s case," the Washington Post reported on Saturday. Pollard suffered a broken left fibula and high ankle sprain in Dallas' 19-12 loss against the San Francisco 49ers in the divisional round of the NFL playoffs last week. ​

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With 1:24 left to play in the first half, Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott threw a checkdown pass to Pollard in the middle of the field. As Pollard tried to escape 49ers defensive back Jimmie Ward, he had his left foot caught underneath Ward's weight as Ward brought him to the turf.​

full article:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...6WLpVTIFbocQDmLt8VDKJCT0U-_KkB8GQSZuOrzGcrdJ4

That leg looked brutal on that tackle.
Not surprised he was seriously injured