Hip Drop: The Pollard (or Mahommes) Rule?

[MyFairLady]

I don't know my memory is not what is used to be but I don't remember a lot of people tackling this way back in the day. It is hard though because they make it so hard to tackle now you almost have to grab the guy and drag some down somehow. Not an easy thing to regulate. Definitely a dangerous way to tackle though.

 

[Captain-Crash]

crap happens, lets make more rules.

 

[Big_D]

It’s right there with the horse collar and can cause serious injuries.

 

[raggedy]

We need some videos of this tackle.

Dak
Deebo
Mahomes
Pollard
Others

I think the Mahommes and the Pollard tackles are the more egregious

somewhat related, but the Hip Drop has been banned in Australian Rugby because of the injury risk.

 

[Praxit]

...no way, that wont happen. Talk about ruining the game.

Defenders have enough to worry about with roughing passer calls and holding receivers.

Then you throw in, HOW TO Tackle? lol.. Dont think, Gordy is that dumb.

 

[raggedy]

...no way, that wont happen. Talk about ruining the game.

Defenders have enough to worry about with roughing passer calls and holding receivers.

Then you throw in, HOW TO Tackle? lol.. Dont think, Gordy is that dumb.

fair enough. nobody wants to see an over-regulated game, but let me ask you:

what's your opinion on the Horse Collar tackle? should that be legal? the Hip Drop is effectively the same thing. In Australian Rugby, a hip drop can get your suspended.

 

[Bing]

Might as well put everyone inside the human hamster balls and name it another sport.

Look how the rules have already effected the game. Armstong had Dak for a easy safety in the endzone but let up because he didnt want a roughing the QB penalty call in him. The game could of easily been over then

 

[JayFord]

Let’s put flags on them. Maybe flags with advertisements

you better believe those flags are going to have advertisements

 

[JayFord]

Might as well put everyone inside the human hamster balls and name it another sport

Dak rolls to the 20, rolls to the 10......no ones going to out roll Prescott

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!

 

[jujoboys]

It's the same kind of "tackle" which broke Dak's leg and turned it 90° sideways. He is lucky to still be playing and walking back to normal.

This is not the way anyone is taught to tackle in football. Ever since the horse collar rule was implemented, I don't understand why the NFL did nothing about banning this kind of "tackle" since it is much more dangerous to a ball carrier than the horse collar one is? I hope the NFL bans this type of tackling. Players have lost their careers because of suffering broken legs/bones, turned around feet, torn ligaments and tendons because of this type of "tackling".

Same play that we lost Allen Hurns and Cole Beasley to in the playoff game against Seattle. The NFL ignores these things until one of their priceless treasures like Mahomes gets hurt.

 

[Praxit]

fair enough. nobody wants to see an over-regulated game, but let me ask you:

what's your opinion on the Horse Collar tackle? should that be legal? the Hip Drop is effectively the same thing. In Australian Rugby, a hip drop can get your suspended.

...the legit horse caller tackle is obvious. Pull down from behind is dangerous.

As for hip drop. Thats more of a Bam Bam play. The defender has seconds to bring down ball player, before crucial yardage.

If they instill, some type of penalty of this kind. It would be LONG season and hell would break loose.

Guarantee, 60+ flags a game. Nobody wants that.

Only wise thing to do, is alert ball carriers to maneuver different.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I think the Mahommes and the Pollard tackles are the more egregious

somewhat related, but the Hip Drop has been banned in Australian Rugby because of the injury risk.

Thanks for the videos, but Dak's compound fracture where the leg bone penetrated his skin, plus his whole foot was turned 90° outward was not more egregious?

 

[G2]

It’s right there with the horse collar and can cause serious injuries.

If you can't leave your feet tackling into a ball carrier, you shouldn't be able to hang off someone's back, the results all look very similar. It's just unnecessary anyway.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Gonna have to wait for a Cowboy player to cause injuries for them to ban it

Does seem to move things along faster. The Roy Williams tackle moved along like the Flash hero.

 

[raggedy]

Thanks for the videos, but Dak's compound fracture where the leg bone penetrated his skin, plus his whole foot was turned 90° outward was not more egregious?

No, I meant to say that the Pollard and Mahommes Hip Drops are easy to see what the tackler is intending on doing. The Dak injury is hideous, but the tackle itself isn't as obviously a hip drop to me. The tackler snapped Dak's ankle as he's swinging his own legs around to tackle Dak, so yeah, it is a Hip Drop too.
If they do decide to ban this type of tackle, there will be backlash from players and fans of course. But I'd really like to know if coaches allow players in practice to tackle their teammates with Hip Drops, or if it's banned in practice. I think that would tell us a lot of what teams/coaches/players really feel about this form of tackling.

Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's not dirty. We can't get into someone's head and heart as far as what is dirty and what isn't, but this form of tackling is clearly dangerous. The league pretends to care about player safety, so let's see where this goes.

 

[Chuck 54]

I know some will say the NFL might as well go to flag football if they ban the Hip Drop tackle, but there is not denying it's a dangerous technique, just like the Roy Williams Horse Collar. I think tacklers know they have a high chance of injuring the runner by performing this tackle. I'd bet teammates don't tackle one another like this in practice because of the risk.

When you are still allowing a tackle that Rugby has outlawed, it’s not soft to consider removing it.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...y-pollard-in-playoffs-could-make-rule-change/

 

[America's Cowboy]

No, I meant to say that the Pollard and Mahommes Hip Drops are easy to see what the tackler is intending on doing. The Dak injury is hideous, but the tackle itself isn't as obviously a hip drop to me. The tackler snapped Dak's ankle as he's swinging his own legs around to tackle Dak, so yeah, it is a Hip Drop too.
If they do decide to ban this type of tackle, there will be backlash from players and fans of course. But I'd really like to know if coaches allow players in practice to tackle their teammates with Hip Drops, or if it's banned in practice. I think that would tell us a lot of what teams/coaches/players really feel about this form of tackling.

Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's not dirty. We can't get into someone's head and heart as far as what is dirty and what isn't, but this form of tackling is clearly dangerous. The league pretends to care about player safety, so let's see where this goes.

 

[diamonddelts]

I don't know my memory is not what is used to be but I don't remember a lot of people tackling this way back in the day. It is hard though because they make it so hard to tackle now you almost have to grab the guy and drag some down somehow. Not an easy thing to regulate. Definitely a dangerous way to tackle though.

It's because you can't go high when making tackles anymore.

 

[Clove]

I don’t think the initial tackle was dirty. To me, it was the extra pulling him back on his way down which was dirty.

That's what happens when you tackle that way.