Holy Crap!!! (AD) Vikings v Jets

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I'm just ecstatic that AD is no longer playing for the Sooners. He was a huge thorn in my alma mater's side. Of course, he chose OU over Texas because he wanted "to win a national championship."

How'd that work out? ;)
 

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tomson75;1592724 said:
Yeah. The kid looks mighty impressive so far.

...that run reminded me of Hershel Walker.

ad is a bad ace...
 

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PBJTime;1592734 said:
He'll be fine. Freak injuries and such can happen. He'll be absolutely fine.

freak injuries don't happen 3 years in a row.
 

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iceberg;1593053 said:
freak injuries don't happen 3 years in a row.

While I agree that there is no possible way to think he'll ABSOLUTELY be fine, I don't think his injuries are of the sort that suggest he will undoubtably sustain more injuries on a regular basis either. It is very possible that he could see a stretch of healthy years...and it would be coming at a damn good time for him. All remains to be seen, however, but if his running last night is any indication...I'd be hiring the best physical trainer possible if I were the vikings.
 

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Peterson's punishing running style might mirror that of Earl Campbell's. It could benefit him with some great seasons and maybe even an eventual Hall of Fame induction, but it could greatly shorten his career also. He's a very special back who should learn when to take the heat and when it's best not to.
 

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iceberg;1593053 said:
freak injuries don't happen 3 years in a row.

Not that its a HUGE difference. But the injuries weren't 3 yrs in a row. His freshman year I believe he was injury free. He almost won the hiesman that year. It was the next two years he had the injuries. I could be wrong and if I am I appologize.
 

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I bet on a per carry/per game basis, AD has been no more injury prone than anyone else. Its not hard to stay healthy when you're just getting 15-20 touches a game in some tandem platoon sharing system. Other RB's drafted in the 1st round in recent year .... Addai, Maroney, Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Lynch, Reggie Bush, LenDale White. ... they were all in split workload systems in college.

Its hard for people to understand if they didn't get a chance to see him on a weekly basis, but when AD was good to go there were games where I swear he was 85% of OU's offense. He would get 35 rushes a game, and be just as fresh and crisp on his 35th carry as his 5th. His freshman year he broke the All Time NCAA record for freshman carries. Even with the injuries and coming out early, he's still 2nd all time in carries at OU and this is a school that ran the wishbone for most of their history and has produced Heisman Trophy winning runningbacks. In a way, the injuries might have been the best thing that happened to him because it kept Stoops from just ruining him. Not many elite RB's, even in college, see even close to that kind of workload.

He wont get nearly the workload in the NFL as he did in college. Chester Taylor is a great compliment as a nickel/3rd down back, and more than capable of spelling AD for 2-3 series a game. If he'll just learn to run a little smarter at the end of runs (go out of bounds instead of trying to end DB's careers, just go down instead of trying to carry 9 defenders for another half a yard) he'll be fine on the injury front. You can teach that stuff. You can't teach freak of nature talent. Even when he's nicked up and 80%, he's still better than most backs.
 

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tomson75;1593057 said:
While I agree that there is no possible way to think he'll ABSOLUTELY be fine, I don't think his injuries are of the sort that suggest he will undoubtably sustain more injuries on a regular basis either. It is very possible that he could see a stretch of healthy years...and it would be coming at a damn good time for him. All remains to be seen, however, but if his running last night is any indication...I'd be hiring the best physical trainer possible if I were the vikings.

heavyg;1593076 said:
Not that its a HUGE difference. But the injuries weren't 3 yrs in a row. His freshman year I believe he was injury free. He almost won the hiesman that year. It was the next two years he had the injuries. I could be wrong and if I am I appologize.

i think the 1st injury wasn't that great but he did get injured and lose time in each of his 3 years. freshman wasn't much as he did put up some amazing numbers.

don't get me wrong - he's a monster on the field when healthy and like tomson said - if i were the vikings i'd invest in several personal trainers for him and just keep an eye on things. when patterns develop you can't just blow 'em off out of personal desire, you've got to manage them.

i hope he can shake it off and stay injury free. but if he does get injured again i can see more of his fans saying "yes, but this is different" cause they want it to be.
 

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MCowboys;1593160 said:
Am I the only one here who'd rather have Marshawn Lynch?

I think its too early to tell who's going to become what...who will have an Emmitt-like career, who'e carreer will emulate Sanders, for example. I just want a guy on the Cowboys whos career and rep wouldn't start a revolt by mentioning his name in the same breath with those two...and Payton's, and Brown's, and Cambell's, and Sayers'...etc.
 

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Freak injuries can happen 3 years in a row. In football, it can happen. Not that it really matters. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and say he's injury prone and his upright running style is going to get him hurt. Nobody can say for sure, so everybody is entitled to their opinion.

By absolutely fine, I mean I think he will be a star in this league. I wasn't implying that he'll never get hurt because, it's football.
 

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PBJTime;1593230 said:
Freak injuries can happen 3 years in a row. In football, it can happen. Not that it really matters. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and say he's injury prone and his upright running style is going to get him hurt. Nobody can say for sure, so everybody is entitled to their opinion.

By absolutely fine, I mean I think he will be a star in this league. I wasn't implying that he'll never get hurt because, it's football.
I think he will undoubtedly be a star in the league.. his talent is unreal and he really is a freak of nature physically.. I agree with Inman about his running style- instead of looking to take defenders out when they hit him and instead of dragging 5 people with him to get another yard, just go down, and he'll last longer.. but his style is really exciting to watch.. and he has 4.3 speed but the mentality of an Earl Campbell.. if he stays healthy, I think he'll be one of the all-time greats..

PBJ, where in Oklahoma City are you from? I live in Yukon..
 

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I really liked AD, but we cannot draft him of course......but, if Cleveland pick comes true for us this year....then RUN DMC
 

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PBJTime;1593230 said:
Freak injuries can happen 3 years in a row. In football, it can happen. Not that it really matters. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and say he's injury prone and his upright running style is going to get him hurt. Nobody can say for sure, so everybody is entitled to their opinion.

By absolutely fine, I mean I think he will be a star in this league. I wasn't implying that he'll never get hurt because, it's football.

yea, those freak injuries hautned emmitt, payton and so many others in their long NFL careers...

maybe he'll be fine. history shows he'll get hurt.

we'll see what happens and all we're doing here is guessing.
 

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When you're breaking the NCAA all time record for carries your freshman year, you're probably going to get a boo-boo here and there.
 

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EMMITTnROY;1593236 said:
I think he will undoubtedly be a star in the league.. his talent is unreal and he really is a freak of nature physically.. I agree with Inman about his running style- instead of looking to take defenders out when they hit him and instead of dragging 5 people with him to get another yard, just go down, and he'll last longer.. but his style is really exciting to watch.. and he has 4.3 speed but the mentality of an Earl Campbell.. if he stays healthy, I think he'll be one of the all-time greats..

PBJ, where in Oklahoma City are you from? I live in Yukon..

I can agree that it might be easier on his body if he altered his running style, but that's what makes him so fun to watch. You can't deny his drive or his natural ability. Maybe he'll get hurt often and maybe he wont, that remains to be seen. But if it's me drafting a running back of this caliber, I'd take that chance any day.:)

By the way, I live in NW OKC. Near Lake Hefner.:cool:
 

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iceberg;1593244 said:
yea, those freak injuries hautned emmitt, payton and so many others in their long NFL careers...

maybe he'll be fine. history shows he'll get hurt.

we'll see what happens and all we're doing here is guessing.

I said it CAN happen, not that freak injuries happen for every player.

You can't really judge a player by their college injuries or lack thereof. Sure, you may be able to get an idea but there's probably no significant correlation. Some math genius may prove me wrong, but until then I'll maintain my viewpoint. If you go by your logic, then McNabb should rarely have been injured because he started every game in college. History would show that he shouldn't have been injury prone, right?

But, you're right, we are just guessing. If we could all judge an NFL career solely off of college history, then there would be no busts, right?
 

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InmanRoshi;1593086 said:
I bet on a per carry/per game basis, AD has been no more injury prone than anyone else. Its not hard to stay healthy when you're just getting 15-20 touches a game in some tandem platoon sharing system. Other RB's drafted in the 1st round in recent year .... Addai, Maroney, Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Lynch, Reggie Bush, LenDale White. ... they were all in split workload systems in college.

Well i bet that on average he gets more injured than most backs because its the primary reason he dropped down the charts. Its not as if he just got injured once and its not as if there are not legitimate questions about how he runs as it relates to injury.

Dont get me wrong. Hes a phenomenal talent and if he can stay healthy hes got a chance to be one of the best but hes got to prove that he can stay healthy and not lose big chunks of seasons.
 

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For all the injuries and all, the guy still put up over 4,000 yards in three "injury prone" seasons. I'll take those numbers All Day. :cool:
 
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