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MarionBarberThe4th;3444839 said:
July 8th.

The 1st is when they can talk to the FA's

And what does that date mean to your lack of NBA knowledge? You mean you plan on knowing how trades work on the 1st?

Everything hinges on LeBrons decision.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3444840 said:
Everything hinges on LeBrons decision.


And Lebron is going to decide to go to the craptastic Cavs?

The Bulls have 3 or 4 better players than anyone on the Cavs. Plus one for another max FA

The Nets have 3 or 4 better players than anyone on the Cavs. Plus one for another max FA. And of course Lopez, the 2nd or 3rd best center in the NBA

If Lebron re-ups God bless him. He has no way to get help. Bosh isnt signing for $5.6M when he can get $16M to play in Miami w/ Wade
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3444785 said:
In some order

Lebron, Kobe, Howard, Wade, D. Williams, Durant, Melo, Gasol, CP3, Bosh, Nowitzki, Nash, Amare, Brandon Roy

Wow, hit that on the head. Rose is a toss up. Top 3 PG or top 3 center, take your pick

Crazy like a third of these guys could be moving. And CP3 can be had as well.

so yea, Lopez is a 20/10 7'1" center who can block shots and play D. He also has never missed a game in his career. Crazy considering hes had no help, which is hard for young centers b/c of double teams


You may want to bring up guys like Pierce, Granger, Yao or Duncan but those guys are either old or banged up.

Comedy. Nowtizki? Comedy.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3444849 said:
And Lebron is going to decide to go to the craptastic Cavs?

The Bulls have 3 or 4 better players than anyone on the Cavs. Plus one for another max FA

The Nets have 3 or 4 better players than anyone on the Cavs. Plus one for another max FA. And of course Lopez, the 2nd or 3rd best center in the NBA

If Lebron re-ups God bless him. He has no way to get help. Bosh isnt signing for $5.6M when he can get $16M to play in Miami w/ Wade

The Bulls already have 3 or 4 better players.

Rose is better than Mo Williams and Delonte West combined.
Deng is better than Tony Parker or Antawn Jamison (at this stage in his career...Jamison used to be a best)
Noah is better than Ilgauskas and is certainly better than Varejao

As for the Nets

Devin Harris is better than the Cavs PGs, and Lopez is better than Ilgauskas and Varejao but that's not putting him in some arbitrary Top 15 or anything.
 

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casmith07;3444898 said:
Comedy. Nowtizki? Comedy.


I put Nowitzki in there Cas.


casmith07;3444901 said:
The Bulls already have 3 or 4 better players.

Rose is better than Mo Williams and Delonte West combined.
Deng is better than Tony Parker or Antawn Jamison (at this stage in his career...Jamison used to be a best)
Noah is better than Ilgauskas and is certainly better than Varejao

As for the Nets

Devin Harris is better than the Cavs PGs, and Lopez is better than Ilgauskas and Varejao but that's not putting him in some arbitrary Top 15 or anything.

Hes in the 15, trust me.

Between the Nets, Cavs, and Bulls it goes like 8 deep before you get to a Cav a team would want over them

Some order: Lopez, Rose, Favors, Harris, Noah, TWill, Gibson, Deng then another max(Amare now?)
 

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Your signature should read "MarionBarberthe4th: Doing it for the Lulz since Aug 2005".
 

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Dang.

You guys put more time into insults than into 15 players they would take over Lopez.

I am dissapoint
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3444959 said:
Dang.

You guys put more time into insults than into 15 players they would take over Lopez.

I am dissapoint

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Chris Paul
5. Deron Williams
6. Derrick Rose
7. Pau Gasol
8. Kevin Garnett
9. Ray Allen
10. Rajon Rondo
11. Tony Parker
12. Steve Nash
13. Joe Johnson
14. Chauncey Billups
15. Carmelo Anthony
16. Dirk Nowitzki
17. Brandon Jennings
18. Tyreke Evans
19. Dwight Howard
20. Amare Stoudemire
21. Chris Bosh
22. Paul Pierce
23. Kevin Durant
24. Jeff Green
25. Brandon Roy

Should I go on? Can I name rookies from this year's draft class?
 

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casmith07;3444969 said:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Chris Paul
5. Deron Williams
6. Derrick Rose
7. Pau Gasol
8. Kevin Garnett
9. Ray Allen
10. Rajon Rondo
11. Tony Parker
12. Steve Nash
13. Joe Johnson
14. Chauncey Billups
15. Carmelo Anthony
16. Dirk Nowitzki
17. Brandon Jennings
18. Tyreke Evans
19. Dwight Howard
20. Amare Stoudemire
21. Chris Bosh
22. Paul Pierce
23. Kevin Durant
24. Jeff Green
25. Brandon Roy

Should I go on? Can I name rookies from this year's draft class?

Ray Allen at 9? Wow I think MB4th is a little ***** as much as anyone else, but there's no way Ray Allen is top 10..and Jeff Green top 25? and Kevin Durant at 23? I really hope this is in no particular order, if not then I apologize.
 

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casmith07;3444969 said:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Chris Paul
5. Deron Williams
6. Derrick Rose - 6? Hes around 15 w/ Lopez
7. Pau Gasol
8. Kevin Garnett - Done(And 8th???)
9. Ray Allen -
Done
10. Rajon Rondo -
No D, also a punk
11. Tony Parker
- Trade bait.
12. Steve Nash
13. Joe Johnson - Really came up big in the playoffs
14. Chauncey Billups
- Done
15. Carmelo Anthony
16. Dirk Nowitzki
17. Brandon Jennings - Lopez shot 50%, Jennings shot 40%. Lopez is a 82% FT shooter to Jennings 80%. Lopzeven had 2.3 assists to Jennings 3.6
18. Tyreke Evans
-Nice year, but lets see if he can run the point
19. Dwight Howard - 19???
20. Amare Stoudemire
21. Chris Bosh
22. Paul Pierce - Love his game but hes up there
23. Kevin Durant - 23?????
24. Jeff Green - I knew youd grasp at straws but dang
25. Brandon Roy - 25????

Should I go on? Can I name rookies from this year's draft class?

Wow dude. Take them over Lopez and your worse than Danny Ferry(He was the Cavs GM Slate)


Two more real close ones are Russel Westbrook and Josh Smith. If Atanta called up and offered Smith for Lopez theyd get laughed at but Westbrook is intriguing b/c hes still getting better :eek:
 

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SLATEmosphere;3444972 said:
Ray Allen at 9? Wow I think MB4th is a little ***** as much as anyone else, but there's no way Ray Allen is top 10..and Jeff Green top 25? and Kevin Durant at 23? I really hope this is in no particular order, if not then I apologize.

It's just a list of guys - in no particular order I forgot to add. Just a list of 20+ guys off the top of my head I'd take before Lopez off the Nets.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3444977 said:
Wow dude. Take them over Lopez and your worse than Danny Ferry(He was the Cavs GM Slate)


Two more real close ones are Russel Westbrook and Josh Smith. If Atanta called up and offered Smith for Lopez theyd get laughed at but Westbrook is intriguing b/c hes still getting better :eek:

Haha, you'd take Lopez over Tyreke Evans or Brandon Jennings?

You must be from New Jersey.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3444977 said:
Wow dude. Take them over Lopez and your worse than Danny Ferry(He was the Cavs GM Slate)


Two more real close ones are Russel Westbrook and Josh Smith. If Atanta called up and offered Smith for Lopez theyd get laughed at but Westbrook is intriguing b/c hes still getting better :eek:
You mention all these players as being done but they are all still very good players and still better than Lopez. How do you have someone like Lopez as a top 15 player when his best season so far is avg. 18 pts and 8 rebounds. You might as well put Al Jefferson in your top 15 too. What has he done to be worthy of top 15. That is saying he is one of the best players in the NBA and he isn't even close. He isn't the best player on his own team. Lopez has a long way to go before he can be in anyone's top 15 list.
 

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Shneek814;3444455 said:
Dont matter Lakers are getting it again. Clevelands GM did everything he could to bring in a championship. Good Luck buddy. Go to Boston or LA to have a chance.

IF Mo Williams is the second best player you didnt try hard enough. That Clevelan team is a joke and I'm surprised they even made it that far.
 

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The Cavs should just do a sign-and-trade sending LeBron to the Magic in return for Vince Carter. Great trade for all parties involved! :D
 

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Joe Rod;3445257 said:
The Cavs should just do a sign-and-trade sending LeBron to the Magic in return for Vince Carter. Great trade for all parties involved! :D

As long as you become a Cavs fan once Vince gets there. ;)
 

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casmith07;3444994 said:
Haha, you'd take Lopez over Tyreke Evans or Brandon Jennings?

You must be from New Jersey.


So you had several lulz over your personal preference for 2 rookie PG's?

Id rather have the young center, but include the young PG's if you want and hes still top 20 on any list


How do you have someone like Lopez as a top 15 player when his best season so far is avg. 18 pts and 8 rebounds. You might as well put Al Jefferson in your top 15 too. What has he done to be worthy of top 15. That is saying he is one of the best players in the NBA and he isn't even close. He isn't the best player on his own team. Lopez has a long way to go before he can be in anyone's top 15 list.
Hes played 2 seasons, he didnt start his rookie year, of course last year was his best year. 18.8 ppg, 8.6 rpg, and 1.7 bpg is sick for a young center. You also cant foul him b/c hes one of the best FT shooting bigs ever


He isn't the best player on his own team.
Insanity. Harris is nice but injury prone. Hes like a top 11-ish PG. Lopez is a top 3 center.
 

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nyc;3445289 said:
As long as you become a Cavs fan once Vince gets there. ;)

Ugh, cheering for that choke artist is like living in basketball purgatory! Trade him Magic! :bang2:
 
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