Honest Question about the #4 overall pick

[Verdict]

Does the talent at the top of this draft appear underwhelming this year because we are picking at #4, and expect so much out of the pick, or is the top of the draft underwhelming this year?

Personally, I think the year we drafted Tyron Smith there were about 10 guys that would be drafted before anyone out of the upcoming draft if they were in this draft.

 

[Verdict]

1 Carolina Panthers Cam Newton QB Auburn
2 Denver Broncos Von Miller LB Texas A&M
3 Buffalo Bills Marcell Dareus DT Alabama
4 Cincinnati Bengals A.J. Green WR Georgia
5 Arizona Cardinals Patrick Peterson DB LSU
6 Atlanta Falcons Julio Jones WR Alabama
7 San Francisco 49ers Aldon Smith LB Missouri
8 Tennessee Titans Jake Locker QB Washington
9 Dallas Cowboys Tyron Smith T USC
10 Jacksonville Jaguars Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
11 Houston Texans J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin
12 Minnesota Vikings Christian Ponder QB Florida State
13 Detroit Lions Nick Fairley DT Auburn
14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
15 Miami Dolphins Mike Pouncey C Florida
16 Washington Commanders Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue
17 New England Patriots Nate Solder T Colorado
18 San Diego Chargers Corey Liuget DE Illinois
19 New York Giants Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
21 Cleveland Browns Phillip Taylor DT Baylor
22 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Castonzo T Boston College
23 Philadelphia Eagles Danny Watkins G Baylor
24 New Orleans Saints Cameron Jordan DE California
25 Seattle Seahawks James Carpenter T Alabama
26 Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
27 Baltimore Ravens Jimmy Smith DB Colorado
28 New Orleans Saints Mark Ingram RB Alabama
29 Chicago Bears Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin
30 New York Jets Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
31 Pittsburgh Steelers Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State
32 Green Bay Packers Derek Sherrod T Mississippi State

This was the 2011 draft.

 

[Alexander]

This is just a weird draft.

It just is not fat at the top like a lot.

And that Tyron Smith draft has proven historically to be way above the norm, so that's not exactly a fair comparison.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I keep hearing there's great second round value this year. Not so much in the first

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Alot of it is us just naturally overthinking it a bit, and fear of messing up a pick this high, so we're also naturally gonna nitpick alot more......

 

[jobberone]

Deep but less impact players.

 

[texbumthelife]

I don't think their is a legitimate day one NFL superstar in this draft. Even Tunsil, who is easily the safest pick, may not be an elite LT from day one. The most exciting players are guys we are having to project, like Ramsey and Jack and the QBs. It makes this years draft all the more stressful, because even at #4, you're looking at big bust potential most likely.

With that said, the second tier players in this draft legitimately go two rounds deep. I can't remember a time when that has been the case. This is going to be a very weird draft to watch.

 

[darthseinfeld]

This is just a weird draft.

It just is not fat at the top like a lot.

And that Tyron Smith draft has proven historically to be way above the norm, so that's not exactly a fair comparison.

May go down as one of the best first rounds ever

 

[Risen Star]

Wentz would have been the 1st pick in 2011 too.

 

[noshame]

Take the qb, he becomes your franchise guy and the rest of the draft can flop. Grade A

 

[Derinyar]

I think part of what makes this draft feel flat is lack of the impact positions at the top. You have DE Bosa, which is normally a impact position, but most seem to peg him as a good all around as opposed to a fast twitch freak. Ramsey is probably the best player worth a top 4 pick, if you think he's a CB. At S it gets harder to take at 4. Jack is a great talent, but he's an off ball linebacker. Treadwell is a good WR prospect but not a Julio Jones or Amare Cooper level one. None of the top three QBs are the type that gets you all hot and bothered. Tunsil is probably the closest to the cream of the crop prospect, but its also the position in the draft we need the absolute least.

 

[btcutter]

1 Carolina Panthers Cam Newton QB Auburn
2 Denver Broncos Von Miller LB Texas A&M
3 Buffalo Bills Marcell Dareus DT Alabama
4 Cincinnati Bengals A.J. Green WR Georgia
5 Arizona Cardinals Patrick Peterson DB LSU
6 Atlanta Falcons Julio Jones WR Alabama
7 San Francisco 49ers Aldon Smith LB Missouri
8 Tennessee Titans Jake Locker QB Washington
9 Dallas Cowboys Tyron Smith T USC
10 Jacksonville Jaguars Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
11 Houston Texans J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin
12 Minnesota Vikings Christian Ponder QB Florida State
13 Detroit Lions Nick Fairley DT Auburn
14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
15 Miami Dolphins Mike Pouncey C Florida
16 Washington Commanders Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue
17 New England Patriots Nate Solder T Colorado
18 San Diego Chargers Corey Liuget DE Illinois
19 New York Giants Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
21 Cleveland Browns Phillip Taylor DT Baylor
22 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Castonzo T Boston College
23 Philadelphia Eagles Danny Watkins G Baylor
24 New Orleans Saints Cameron Jordan DE California
25 Seattle Seahawks James Carpenter T Alabama
26 Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
27 Baltimore Ravens Jimmy Smith DB Colorado
28 New Orleans Saints Mark Ingram RB Alabama
29 Chicago Bears Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin
30 New York Jets Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
31 Pittsburgh Steelers Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State
32 Green Bay Packers Derek Sherrod T Mississippi State

This was the 2011 draft.

It's easy to see after 5 years. The only draft that was very top heavy was the Aikman, Manderich (sp), Sanders, Thomas, Sanders in 1989.

There were tons of questions about Newton. Aldon Smith was late riser as was Julio. This board debated Watts and Smith who couldn't start at USC at LT and was playing RT. No one saw Watt's as the best DL in the league. If anyone would have said that he would have been called a ******.

You just draft what's available this year. At least there's rookie salary cap so you won't get killed by giving out some insane money.

Personally, I pick a QB at 4 assuming he checks out. I don't want this team to go through another post Aikman era.

 

[Risen Star]

Once they see him at the Combine, I'm expecting the Titans to release Mariota and draft Wentz.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

....really, jus' simma dow na

 

[Teague31]

Wentz would have been the 1st pick in 2011 too.

Or any other year

 

[DAL1180]

Wentz would have been the 1st pick in 2011 too.

Once again I just spit out my drink laughing.

 

[Cowboys1fan]

Once they see him at the Combine, I'm expecting the Titans to release Mariota and draft Wentz.

Haha you can't be serious? Are you that insane? Ridiculous lmao

 

[Cowboys1fan]

Or any other year

Wentz wouldn't have been picked over Newton. He won the heisman and balled out in the sec/ won a national title.. Get out of here

 

[RoboQB]

Ha!... the new guy doesn't get sarcasm... or he's just not funny... hang in there, kid.

 

[sbark]

Wentz and Goff apparently acquaintences