Honest Question about the #4 overall pick

[RoboQB]

Wentz and Goff apparently acquaintences

They're eskimo brothers.

 

[Risen Star]

Wentz and Goff apparently acquaintences

I mean, cmon. Who's the franchise QB?

The chick knows it too. Which is why she's practically attached to his hip.

 

[sbark]

I mean, cmon. Who's the franchise QB?

The chick knows it too. Which is why she's practically attached to his hip.

unless that is his longtime girlfriend...she wishes. Carson pretty grounded young man. Its still fairly common in N.Dak..........old school.

 

[sbark]

They're eskimo brothers.

Haha.......I guess so. Just 2 football players to most........

 

[fortdick]

unless that is his longtime girlfriend...she wishes. Carson pretty grounded young man. Its still fairly common in N.Dak..........old school.

What's common in N.D.? Long term commitments?

 

[sbark]

What's common in N.D.? Long term commitments?

is that bait.........or a carrot on a stick?

 

[sbark]

from http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...p-at-combine/ar-BBpzV8K?li=BBnbklx&OCID=HPDHP
Jared Goff, QB, Cal

He has ideal height and appears to have the frame to add bulk, but Goff's measurements will give scouts a better idea of his growth potential. Goff is not only lean, he also fumbled the ball 23 times in college so his official hand size will be interesting - teams will be hoping he hits the 9 1/8-inch threshold.

 

[Risen Star]

unless that is his longtime girlfriend...she wishes. Carson pretty grounded young man. Its still fairly common in N.Dak..........old school.

I would date him.

 

[reddyuta]

1 Carolina Panthers Cam Newton QB Auburn
2 Denver Broncos Von Miller LB Texas A&M
3 Buffalo Bills Marcell Dareus DT Alabama
4 Cincinnati Bengals A.J. Green WR Georgia
5 Arizona Cardinals Patrick Peterson DB LSU
6 Atlanta Falcons Julio Jones WR Alabama
7 San Francisco 49ers Aldon Smith LB Missouri
8 Tennessee Titans Jake Locker QB Washington
9 Dallas Cowboys Tyron Smith T USC
10 Jacksonville Jaguars Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
11 Houston Texans J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin
12 Minnesota Vikings Christian Ponder QB Florida State
13 Detroit Lions Nick Fairley DT Auburn
14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
15 Miami Dolphins Mike Pouncey C Florida
16 Washington Commanders Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue
17 New England Patriots Nate Solder T Colorado
18 San Diego Chargers Corey Liuget DE Illinois
19 New York Giants Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
21 Cleveland Browns Phillip Taylor DT Baylor
22 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Castonzo T Boston College
23 Philadelphia Eagles Danny Watkins G Baylor
24 New Orleans Saints Cameron Jordan DE California
25 Seattle Seahawks James Carpenter T Alabama
26 Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
27 Baltimore Ravens Jimmy Smith DB Colorado
28 New Orleans Saints Mark Ingram RB Alabama
29 Chicago Bears Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin
30 New York Jets Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
31 Pittsburgh Steelers Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State
32 Green Bay Packers Derek Sherrod T Mississippi State

This was the 2011 draft.

that was one of the best if not best first RD in NFL history,you cant live upto that.

 

[IrishAnto]

Take the qb, he becomes your franchise guy and the rest of the draft can flop. Grade A

I agree about the QB, but not about the rest of the draft.

This team needs all the help it can get, so they'd better not fail with the rest of the draft.

 

[IrishAnto]

Wentz and Goff apparently acquaintences

Goff is listed at 6,4 and 215 and Wentz at just over 6,5 and 235 but from this picture there seems to be a lot bigger difference

 

[visionary]

Does the talent at the top of this draft appear underwhelming this year because we are picking at #4, and expect so much out of the pick, or is the top of the draft underwhelming this year?

Personally, I think the year we drafted Tyron Smith there were about 10 guys that would be drafted before anyone out of the upcoming draft if they were in this draft.

This post is made every single year (not by you but someone)
Talent at the top is just fine
Good FOs will find it

Evaluate the talent and make the pick

 

[sbark]

Goff is listed at 6,4 and 215 and Wentz at just over 6,5 and 235 but from this picture there seems to be a lot bigger difference

Was my 1st impression also.....have to say after weigh in etc at Senior Bowl--Wentz's is verified. I'm sure NFL waiting for Combine on Goff.

 

[sbark]

I would date him.

sounds like He would take you hunting and fishing on the "date"...........camo, face paint, compound bows, big calibers, in cover pre-dawn---you'd have a blast.

 

[noshame]

I agree about the QB, but not about the rest of the draft.

This team needs all the help it can get, so they'd better not fail with the rest of the draft.

I was kind of kidding about the rest of the draft, but a true franchise QB can win you a lot of games for a lot of years.

 

[Verdict]

This post is made every single year (not by you but someone)
Talent at the top is just fine
Good FOs will find it

Evaluate the talent and make the pick

Well, not exactly this point, but something like it. The problem is that this draft looks a lot more like the 2009 draft than the Tyron Smith draft class. Not getting a good player in the first round is bad. Not getting a good player at #4 is a back breaker because of the cap. You can swing and miss at #20, but not at #4 overall.

 

[Verdict]

Do any of you see anyone in this class that you think are as good as JJ Watt or Tyron Smith (excluding QB). If the top 3 signal callers don't grade out this might be a very weak class overall.

 

[visionary]

Do any of you see anyone in this class that you think are as good as JJ Watt or Tyron Smith (excluding QB). If the top 3 signal callers don't grade out this might be a very weak class overall.

No one had any idea Watt would be half as good as he has been

Smith was a guy playing right tackle, very raw, lots of question marks

There are questions every year but the good GMs are able to separate the wheat from the chaff

 

[Verdict]

No one had any idea Watt would be half as good as he has been

Smith was a guy playing right tackle, very raw, lots of question marks

There are questions every year but the good GMs are able to separate the wheat from the chaff

Actually, that's not entirely accurate. The Cowboys' staff was very high on J.J. Watt. In fact they were so high on Watt that there was considerable debate about whether to select him over Tyron Smith, who played a position which was in dire need of upgrading at the time. Both players were deemed to be can't miss blue chippers at the time, which is saying at lot since they both went outside the top 5 picks.

Right now, outside the QBs no one seems to carry the grade that Smith or Watt had in this entire class.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Wentz and Goff apparently acquaintences

Goff working on a Romo belly... Draft him..