Hope for 2025 rebuild

JayFord

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It should’ve been this year

I was fully ok with going 3-14 and having Dak and MM being the the main ones leaving….

I’m actually ok with the commanders and eagles being good (as long as no SB) and Dalllas being bad because this draft is LOADED

What I’m not ok with was signing Dak (not getting into any Dak argument I like the guy) rolling with whoever at QB and not handing out any big contracts except Lamb

This team needs a full reset
 

CyberB0b

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The only hope is that two of the jones’ private jets have a mid air collision. Outside of that, there is no hope for this franchise.
 

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If the Cowboys are serious about a rebuild then they have no choice but to trade Micah Parsons after the season.

The Cowboys won't get fair compensation because his new team now receives the burden of signing him. That would probably lower the value from two #1s to one #1 and perhaps some change.

However, the Cowboys could never rebuild and pay Parsons, Prescott and Lamb simultaneously.

I would look at it this way....Parsons or Tyler Smith?

No way they can pay all four.
 

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Dak will still be the QB a year older and a year slower, and Jerruh will be a year dumber, I wouldn't hold out too much hope
 

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Rebuild? The same person that got us here would be the same one responsible for a rebuild.
True that.

With the same management, the best we could hope for is a repeat of the last three seasons before another eventual, but steep, descension into NFL purgatory.
 

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True that.

With the same management, the best we could hope for is a repeat of the last three seasons before another eventual, but steep, descension into NFL purgatory.
Three seasons? Three decades, numerous rebuilds, different faces on the sidelines, different names on the jerseys but the same disappointment. As fans we want to have hope, but just like watching Charlie Brown thinking that this time Lucy won't pull the ball away, we know how it will end this time and next time. It won't change until there are drastic changes in how this organization is ran and functions.
 

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As a lifelong Cowboys fan, I always have some hope, even in the dark days we have now. For me, the only fun left in the 2024 season now is hopefully seeing some of our young players develop and how good our draft position will be for 2025.

Obviously we are stuck with JJ for the immediate future. But because of a bunch of expiring contracts ending this year, this team will have some serious cap space compared to prior seasons and the opportunity for a real rebuild will be there. A new HC, new coordinators, and a bunch of new faces will be in place next year, so at least we will see lots of changes. The opportunity for a fresh start is there in such a way, even a blind squirrel like Jerry may find a nut.

I am working on a 2025 rebuild post I will share tomorrow. There are multiple ways a rebuild can go. I hope our rebuild is aggressive and includes getting everything and everyone in place early; no more of this waiting until the last minute.

2025 is an opportunity for a bunch of change.
We can't rebuild. We are stuck with Dak and CD sucking down major cap space. All we can do is what we always do........ hope we strike gold in the draft and dumpster dive. We might even get worse b/c I don't know where Jerry gets the 200M Micah is about to demand. To get all these guys under the cap next year is going to take a lot of restructuring and veteran cuts which is going to kick the rebuild can even further down the road.
 

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I don’t want these two handling a rebuild.

They don’t know how to commit to a solid coach with fresh schemes and build a team that can best execute those schemes. They collect players and coaches and try to piece them together.

They aren’t knowledgeable or aggressive enough…or appear to have the stones for that matter, to properly trade players for picks, select the right ones, and know when to become buyers in free agency. It’ll be some sort of half-measure so they can still sell the product.

They need several years of humiliation before going the Parcells-type route again. I promise they aren’t at that point just yet, so figure 4-5 years before any proper rebuild can begin.
:hammer:Has been a horrible business model....Yet Jerry insists on it. :banghead:
 

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As a lifelong Cowboys fan, I always have some hope, even in the dark days we have now. For me, the only fun left in the 2024 season now is hopefully seeing some of our young players develop and how good our draft position will be for 2025.

Obviously we are stuck with JJ for the immediate future. But because of a bunch of expiring contracts ending this year, this team will have some serious cap space compared to prior seasons and the opportunity for a real rebuild will be there. A new HC, new coordinators, and a bunch of new faces will be in place next year, so at least we will see lots of changes. The opportunity for a fresh start is there in such a way, even a blind squirrel like Jerry may find a nut.

I am working on a 2025 rebuild post I will share tomorrow. There are multiple ways a rebuild can go. I hope our rebuild is aggressive and includes getting everything and everyone in place early; no more of this waiting until the last minute.

2025 is an opportunity for a bunch of change.
To actually rebuild a championship team will require a real GM. This team has a lot of holes and they dont have the FO that can fill them.
 

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We can't rebuild. We are stuck with Dak and CD sucking down major cap space. All we can do is what we always do........ hope we strike gold in the draft and dumpster dive. We might even get worse b/c I don't know where Jerry gets the 200M Micah is about to demand. To get all these guys under the cap next year is going to take a lot of restructuring and veteran cuts which is going to kick the rebuild can even further down the road.
AC, most of that's true. The thing about the cap space is more that this FO doesn’t understand how to manage the cap than it is us being screwed by the cap. There are multiple teams with huge contracts that have excellent rosters.

The chiefs, eagles, bills, chargers, falcons, and others have huge cap space commitments and yet they have a GM that know how to manage it. And they know when an expensive vet needs to be traded, cut or not resigned. Unfortunately we have a FO that doesn’t get it.
 

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I don’t want these two handling a rebuild.

They don’t know how to commit to a solid coach with fresh schemes and build a team that can best execute those schemes. They collect players and coaches and try to piece them together.

They aren’t knowledgeable or aggressive enough…or appear to have the stones for that matter, to properly trade players for picks, select the right ones, and know when to become buyers in free agency. It’ll be some sort of half-measure so they can still sell the product.

They need several years of humiliation before going the Parcells-type route again. I promise they aren’t at that point just yet, so figure 4-5 years before any proper rebuild can begin.
Shockingly, this seems to be the situation we find ourselves in...
"They aren’t knowledgeable".
 

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AC, most of that's true. The thing about the cap space is more that this FO doesn’t understand how to manage the cap than it is us being screwed by the cap. There are multiple teams with huge contracts that have excellent rosters.

The chiefs, eagles, bills, chargers, falcons, and others have huge cap space commitments and yet they have a GM that know how to manage it. And they know when an expensive vet needs to be traded, cut or not resigned. Unfortunately we have a FO that doesn’t get it.
Those teams don't have a QB/WR duo making anything close to what Dak and CD are making. Jerry has dug us a unique hole. The chiefs had a similar decision to make with Tyreke Hill and they decided to let him walk. That's what the smart teams do. You can't prioritize the wr position and you have to be right if you decide to pay the QB. Jerry made 2 errors in judgement and it's going to cost us for many seasons.
 

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Those teams don't have a QB/WR duo making anything close to what Dak and CD are making. Jerry has dug us a unique hole. The chiefs had a similar decision to make with Tyreke Hill and they decided to let him walk. That's what the smart teams do. You can't prioritize the wr position and you have to be right if you decide to pay the QB. Jerry made 2 errors in judgement and it's going to cost us for many seasons.
You’re right about the QB/Wr thing but my point is about overall cap management. The Jones boys are complete fools in how to do it right. It’s not just about big contracts it’s also about how you manage every single roster spot.

The Jones boys somehow think all they need are a few stars they will pay, and those guys should carry everyone else. Good GMs know all 53 roster spots are just as critical as the “stars” you pay. I have felt for years all JJ pays attention to is who he’s paying. Not what additional talent he needs.
 

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As a lifelong Cowboys fan, I always have some hope, even in the dark days we have now. For me, the only fun left in the 2024 season now is hopefully seeing some of our young players develop and how good our draft position will be for 2025.

Obviously we are stuck with JJ for the immediate future. But because of a bunch of expiring contracts ending this year, this team will have some serious cap space compared to prior seasons and the opportunity for a real rebuild will be there. A new HC, new coordinators, and a bunch of new faces will be in place next year, so at least we will see lots of changes. The opportunity for a fresh start is there in such a way, even a blind squirrel like Jerry may find a nut.

I am working on a 2025 rebuild post I will share tomorrow. There are multiple ways a rebuild can go. I hope our rebuild is aggressive and includes getting everything and everyone in place early; no more of this waiting until the last minute.

2025 is an opportunity for a bunch of change.
Okay Bob.

In my opinion any rebuild starts with unloading player for draft capital and nobody should be safe. We should be in the top five already and move up from there and we cannot be afraid to take a QB like the Falcons.
 

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The hope is that you hire an excellent coach, draft really well with these high picks, and then catch lightning in a bottle the first year or two of the new coach's tenure.

Because we know that the longer a coach is in place, the more Jerry inserts himself into, well, everything. And that's when things start falling apart. Just like this year. Some of us noticed even in training camp that he was talking much more and "taking charge" more than he had in a while.
Who do we look like The Washington Football Team?!
 
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