Houck vs Sparano

[jr40usa]

The OL really has suffered since the departure of Tony Sparano. The OL fundamentals just has not been the same. You can argue the talent has slipped but so has coaching.

 

[nalam]

I agree. This has been my pet Peeve for long. Houck doesn't deserve the highest paid OL coach in the league, either he is not current with his coaching style or not able to maximize our OL players' strength.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Our line even had struggles with Sparano. I remember everyone badmouthing him then because of the line. It's Gurode, y'all.

 

[Solution]

Our line even had struggles with Sparano. I remember everyone badmouthing him then because of the line. It's Gurode, y'all.

I'm not saying its not Gurode, but can someone explain to me why he's so overrated? 2 all-pro awards and 4 probowls (I think so at least). Wheres the logic, cuz I definitely don't watch the center position enough to know just how good or bad he is. Just about the only time I hear his name called is when he's making wild snaps.

Anyways, I see people who think Gurode is pretty terrible on this forum a lot, but I never really see the reasons why. Someone care to enlighten me please?

 

[Apluz]

The OL really has suffered since the departure of Tony Sparano. The OL fundamentals just has not been the same. You can argue the talent has slipped but so has coaching.

Both are good, but Houck is better.

The line gets a lot of flak because of the Vikings game and the way it has played thus far in pre-season. But the line was playing great for the majority of last season.


You can't complain about our run blocking for last season. We were one of the best in the league running the ball. Trust me, we don't set team yardage records not being able to block.

So say what you want about Houck, go ahead and criticize him now but remember who to give credit too when the team is doing well... at least counter balance the bull ---- with some praise while we are rolling.

 

[percyhoward]

The line gets a lot of flak because of the Vikings game and the way it has played thus far in pre-season. But the line was playing great for the majority of last season.

You can't complain about our run blocking for last season. We were one of the best in the league running the ball. Trust me, we don't set team yardage records not being able to block.

We were 27th in "extra blockers" last season, which means that, per pass play, we kept an extra guy or guys in to block more than 26 other teams. Even so, we still gave up a great amount of pressures, that Romo was mostly responsible for not turning into sacks. We got the yardage we did because our defense got teams off the field, then with that extra pass protection and despite pressure our passing game got into a rhythm, which in turn opened up the run game.

 

[AbeBeta]

funny, but when Sparano was here he was widely regarded as sucking *** by most folks on the board.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not saying its not Gurode, but can someone explain to me why he's so overrated? 2 all-pro awards and 4 probowls (I think so at least). Wheres the logic, cuz I definitely don't watch the center position enough to know just how good or bad he is. Just about the only time I hear his name called is when he's making wild snaps.

Anyways, I see people who think Gurode is pretty terrible on this forum a lot, but I never really see the reasons why. Someone care to enlighten me please?

He goes to the Pro Bowl even though he's dumb, largely due to the fact that noone can name more than 2 to 3 good centers in the entire league. I'll admit. He looked great in '07, but since then has been living on his rep.

 

[Rampage]

What did Parcells say about this group of players again?

 

[67CowboysFan]

Our line even had struggles with Sparano. I remember everyone badmouthing him then because of the line. It's Gurode, y'all.

Even tho I agree, good luck trying to sell that idea.

 

[baj1dallas]

Anyways, I see people who think Gurode is pretty terrible on this forum a lot, but I never really see the reasons why. Someone care to enlighten me please?

He's not terrible. People just get all bent out of shape any time anybody does something wrong. He's a better than average center, decent pass blocker, good run blocker. You can't judge a veteran based on preseason with a makeshift line and ignore the years prior.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He's not terrible. People just get all bent out of shape any time anybody does something wrong. He's a better than average center, decent pass blocker, good run blocker. You can't judge a veteran based on preseason with a makeshift line and ignore the years prior.

Decent pass-blocker? Dude still acts like he's never seen a stunt in his life. He's terrible blocking on the move. Dude is just bad.

Just go back to his 2nd year here when Parcells said dude got distracted by his best friend on the line. Torrin Tucker of all people.

 

[CATCH17]

Our line even had struggles with Sparano. I remember everyone badmouthing him then because of the line. It's Gurode, y'all.

Sean Payton got bad mouthed weekly here too.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sean Payton got bad mouthed weekly here too.

Drew Bleadslow.

 

[baj1dallas]

Decent pass-blocker? Dude still acts like he's never seen a stunt in his life. He's terrible blocking on the move. Dude is just bad.

Just go back to his 2nd year here when Parcells said dude got distracted by his best friend on the line. Torrin Tucker of all people.

He's a better pass blocker that the other centers in the division.

 

[Solution]

He goes to the Pro Bowl even though he's dumb, largely due to the fact that noone can name more than 2 to 3 good centers in the entire league. I'll admit. He looked great in '07, but since then has been living on his rep.

He was an all-pro in 2009 if I'm not mistaken - I don't really care about pro bowls, but all-pro awards aren't something to scoff at. Your right that not many can name good centers (nick mangold is the only one I can even think of), but considering coaches and players vote on pro bowls too, saying that fans are dumb doesn't quite explain his pro bowls sufficiently.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He's a better pass blocker that the other centers in the division.

And Roy Williams is better than Malcolm Kelly. What's your point?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He was an all-pro in 2009 if I'm not mistaken - I don't really care about pro bowls, but all-pro awards aren't something to scoff at. Your right that not many can name good centers (nick mangold is the only one I can even think of), but considering coaches and players vote on pro bowls too, saying that fans are dumb doesn't quite explain his pro bowls sufficiently.

Players don't know about other players outside of their conference. Because they aren't paying attention to them, so half their votes don't even hold water.

 

[Solution]

Players don't know about other players outside of their conference. Because they aren't paying attention to them, so half their votes don't even hold water.

I'm not sure I buy that. Maybe players don't know much about players outside their conference, but if your studying tape every week for your upcoming game, I'm sure a players knowledge is better than your giving them credit for. Not to mention coaches vote as well.

 

[speedkilz88]

Players don't know about other players outside of their conference. Because they aren't paying attention to them, so half their votes don't even hold water.

Players only vote for their own conference. It's nfc vs. afc.