How bad would losing Glenn really hurt us?

[Parche]

On Garrett side, He has that the Giants D isnt chicago... He should have a fine game even without glenn.

 

[TunaFan33]

On Garrett side, He has that the Giants D isnt chicago... He should have a fine game even without glenn.

No Glenn will wash out No Madison/Demps

 

[blindzebra]

TO is 33 years old and hasn't played a 16 game season in 5 years. You have expect that there will be at least a couple of games where we'll have that scenerio.

That said, teams not named the Colts and Bengals don't have two 1,000 yard receivers. I'm not expecting anywhere near 425 points that we scored last year. I wasn't even before the Glenn injury. But we still have a Pro Bowl caliber #1 WR and a Pro Bowl caliber TE. If Jason Garrett can't find a way to be at least a Top 10 scoring offense with those two pieces and Romo for a 16 games, then the "young offensive genius' moniker is vastly undeserved.

Owens played in all 16 last year.

 

[Parche]

No Glenn will wash out No Madison/Demps

Didnt understand, Sorry, My english still´s not that good

 

[blindzebra]

A few stats.

As for clutch and a deep threat:

Last year:

Crayton 28/36 catches went for a FD that's 78%

Glenn 47/70 catches went for FD that's 67%

Crayton 7 for 20+ for 19% of his catches

Glenn 14 for 20+ for 20% of his catches

Crayton 2 for 40+ for .6% of his catches

Glenn 5 for 40+ for .7% of his catches

 

[theebs]

my concern is this, how do you back off the defense.

Teams are going to go 8 in the box and press the outside wr and blitz right up the guy all night.

The giants must be foaming at the mouth. They have guys like madison who are built to press and play man to man.

I have concern for how you get owens in the slot. Seriously if we line up hurd and crayton outside teams are going to attack because these guys have no explosion off the line. Crayton has done nothing but play in the slot getting a free release and usually having every advantage with teams so worried about glenn and last year owens.

I just think we are in big trouble if crayton struggles from an x's and o's standpoint. Every team in the league will stack the box, blitz every down and press outside. That will disrupt our rhythm and timing on offense and leave an open defender on all running downs.

Having said all that, it is not time for gloom and doom because witten will still torment teams down the middle and owens requires alot of attention. IN philly owens wasnt playing with the greatest skill players around him, he had mcnabb and westbrook who are outstanding. If we get a good running game owens and witten should still be quite a problem for most teams to put up with.

Again, though my concern is teams starting with the giants sunday night are going to show no respect for crayton outside and will just load up, press and attack the line of scrimmage.

I rewatched the eagles game from last christmas because I found it odd that gosselin said the eagles undressed him. That was far from the case, he made that one bad throw to the endzone. He was outstanding in the first half, so I feel better about romo vs the defense, but still worry with all the pass rushers the giants have and the fact that we never run the ball well on them.

man my head hurts. This is a serious bummer. Hopefully tomorrow we will get some good news, maybe burnett will play and maybe ellis will suprise us all sunday night.

 

[Rampage]

my concern is this, how do you back off the defense.

Teams are going to go 8 in the box and press the outside wr and blitz right up the guy all night.

The giants must be foaming at the mouth. They have guys like madison who are built to press and play man to man.

I have concern for how you get owens in the slot. Seriously if we line up hurd and crayton outside teams are going to attack because these guys have no explosion off the line. Crayton has done nothing but play in the slot getting a free release and usually having every advantage with teams so worried about glenn and last year owens.

I just think we are in big trouble if crayton struggles from an x's and o's standpoint. Every team in the league will stack the box, blitz every down and press outside. That will disrupt our rhythm and timing on offense and leave an open defender on all running downs.

Having said all that, it is not time for gloom and doom because witten will still torment teams down the middle and owens requires alot of attention. IN philly owens wasnt playing with the greatest skill players around him, he had mcnabb and westbrook who are outstanding. If we get a good running game owens and witten should still be quite a problem for most teams to put up with.

Again, though my concern is teams starting with the giants sunday night are going to show no respect for crayton outside and will just load up, press and attack the line of scrimmage.

I rewatched the eagles game from last christmas because I found it odd that gosselin said the eagles undressed him. That was far from the case, he made that one bad throw to the endzone. He was outstanding in the first half, so I feel better about romo vs the defense, but still worry with all the pass rushers the giants have and the fact that we never run the ball well on them.

man my head hurts. This is a serious bummer. Hopefully tomorrow we will get some good news, maybe burnett will play and maybe ellis will suprise us all sunday night.

thanks theebs. better hurry up and make a giants defensive hl quick:laugh2:

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He's got sure hands and was our primary deep threat.

It has an impact, but is it as devastating as some fear?

Owens has the ability to get deep.

Hurd and Crayton have both show the ability to exploit the intermediate routes.

Witten and Fasano both have the ability to stretch the field inside.

We are planning on using the backs more as well.

Coming into the season, I'd bet most of us were predicting fewer catches for Glenn anyway with Romo seeming to favor Owens and Garrett's system where the TEs and RBs will be used more.

Also with the age of Glenn and Owens this year was important for Crayton...coming into FA next year...and the young guys, Hurd, Austin and Stanback for us to see what we had going into next offseason.

In my thinking we have more than enough weapons to compensate for not having Glenn...I also believe forcing Crayton, Hurd and Austin to each move up a spot is a blessing in disguise.

Losing Glenn an impact?
Depends
The Glenn of last year or the older and injured Glenn.
If the former, a big effect
If the latter Crayton will just step up with Hurd
Giving the ball to two promising WRs is not a bad thing, really.
Glenn was/is bound to go sooner or later.

 

[superpunk]

It would hurt a LOT. Glenn can smoke anyone when coverage is rolled to T.O... Sam Hurd can't, He has no speed or quicks. And Crayton is barely any better.

I agree.

It would be the acme of foolishness to say that losing Glenn isn't a devastating blow. Not overwhelming, but devastating. People can wax poetic all day about how little it will ACTUALLY hurt us, but "at the end of the day", we're without a top 20 receiver in the NFL.

Does that mean the TEs become more of a focal point? That Crayton finally gets to strut his stuff full time? That Owens gets fed even more? I don't know. Obviosuly there are many ways to skin the cat, and until the Colts last year a set of premier WRs wasn't the norm in super bowl victors.

But Terry's an integral part of our team and offense. He didn't get extended for nothing. If he's gone, you're damn right it hurts....alot.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

So instead of us winning the Super Bowl by 40 points, we will win it by 30.
I think Crayton, Hurd and Austin can step up. And our Defense will dominate.
All is not lost...yet.

 

[DawnOfANewD]

We also have Jason Witten for Romo to throw to. Less Glenn = more Witten.

 

[Sarge]

Paint any picture you'd like....the loss of Glenn for the year (if that is true) is a serious loss. Others will have to step up.....the question remains........will they, or will they to a level that this team needs to move deep into the playoffs.

Time will tell. Frankly, this should surprise no one - given Glenn's injury history.

 

[BLEU3ASY]

not too bad. I think he hurts us more on the field. look at his fumble in the playoffs last year

the pass from Romo wasn't perfect either. Glenn has done alot more good than bad for this team. you turn your back on him for one play? Weak!!

 

[CrazyCowboy]

let's hope for him to be 100 percent for the playoffs.

 

[burmafrd]

littleboyroy is always like that. Just ignore him.
Fact is losing Glenn hurts because he was a deep threat, was very quick and had very good hands. That combination is rare. TO, due to his size, is nowhere near as quick. He can get deep and be a deep threat, but that is not his strength. We do not have anyone else on this time with the skills TG has. Stanback, even if he had the experience, is not as quick but has deep speed. Austin has very good speed but has not shown much as a WR. Hurd and Crayton do not have the speed. If Garrett is as good as many think, he should be able to find ways to compensate. But no matter what, it is a serious loss if he is gone for any lengthy period.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Glenn being gone benefits us. Players that shouldn't be held back, can finally show what they do or don't have, a question that's been looming for 2 years now.

The distraction of the greedy midget won't be there.

The lies from the greedy midget won't be there.

The constant baiting of TO won't be there.

He's not our deep threat. Or atleast hasn't been since TO arrived on the scene. TO has been all that and more. A type of player Terry could only dream of being revered as.

His "sure hands", don't do very much good when he's 6 inches from the ground and Romo has to throw up, then down, then sideways, all on one throw, just to get it to the guy hiding in the grass.

Crayton will slash it across the middle. Hurd will go up top. TO does all that and everything else. We just got 10x better at that position and you can bet i'll stand by that assessment until I'm proved wrong. Terry Glenn is nothing and shouldn't be viewed as anything important by us.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I agree.

It would be the acme of foolishness to say that losing Glenn isn't a devastating blow. Not overwhelming, but devastating. People can wax poetic all day about how little it will ACTUALLY hurt us, but "at the end of the day", we're without a top 20 receiver in the NFL.

Does that mean the TEs become more of a focal point? That Crayton finally gets to strut his stuff full time? That Owens gets fed even more? I don't know. Obviosuly there are many ways to skin the cat, and until the Colts last year a set of premier WRs wasn't the norm in super bowl victors.

But Terry's an integral part of our team and offense. He didn't get extended for nothing. If he's gone, you're damn right it hurts....alot.

I think overwhelming and devastating pretty much carry the same connotation

 

[PosterChild]

Stanback-- he may be the answer. Anybody know if he has Terry Glenn type speed? Sure he can't replace everything TG does on the field yet, but he could at least stretch the field couldn't he?

 

[superpunk]

I think overwhelming and devastating pretty much carry the same connotation

Thanks for your contribution.

 

[theebs]

Stanback-- he may be the answer. Anybody know if he has Terry Glenn type speed? Sure he can't replace everything TG does on the field yet, but he could at least stretch the field couldn't he?

no, stanback is big. Glenn is small and explosive, he is hard to cover because he runs his routes so well and is so explosive in and out of his breaks.

No one on this roster has the skillset that he has. All our guys are bigger and are not the quality of glenn, obviously.

stanback can run obviously and so can austin but they cant run routes yet at their top speed like glenn can, he was going full tilt all the time because of his excellent route running.