How can you let Wade finish off this season?

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I would just fire Wade and move on. Someone needs to change the mental state of this team now. This cannot continue! Who, I don't know.

I know it is not going to happen, but I don't know how you can let Wade finish off this season. You ought to bring someone in to start building toughness today because this group will quit if Wade lets them and continues to do the things he is doing like praising their "effort"

That statement right there should make Jerry get rid of him. Anybody can see they quit!

Cowher would be my first choice but I don't think he is coming here. Gruden would be #2 I think at this point.
 
Wade should have never come back from Philly. That just allowed the culture of soft entitlement to breed. Now you have to clean the whole organization again, just like Campo years V2.
 
You let Wade finish now because we can't accurately judge a new HC with Tony out.
 
Cowher is my first choice as well; however, I doubt he would be willing to step into this mess halfway through the season. I propose the Cowboys fire Wade today, and promote Garrett. He has the remainder of the season to prove he can make the team respond to and play for him. In all likelihood, he probably won't be able to. And when he fails, Jerry can then hire Cowher in the offseason.
 
aikemirv;3650190 said:
I would just fire Wade and move on. Someone needs to change the mental state of this team now. This cannot continue! Who, I don't know.

I know it is not going to happen, but I don't know how you can let Wade finish off this season. You ought to bring someone in to start building toughness today because this group will quit if Wade lets them and continues to do the things he is doing like praising their "effort"

That statement right there should make Jerry get rid of him. Anybody can see they quit!

Cowher would be my first choice but I don't think he is coming here. Gruden would be #2 I think at this point.

The best thing for Jerry to do is fire Wade and promote from within and name an interim head coach. Once he names an interim he can start putting out feelers and evaluate who is or isn't interested in having a formal interview at the conclusion of the season. The main thing that needs to be done ASAP is too fire that Son of a Bum though.

Craig
 
SDCowboy85;3650213 said:
You let Wade finish now because we can't accurately judge a new HC with Tony out.


Yes you can. Its called effort and toughness. You don't have to win but you can see a change in mental makeup of a team. This is the time to see if the guy can lead or not.
 
..ain't gonna happen boys. Unless the stadium has 50k in it next home game. THEN it will happen.............
 
Wolfpack;3650206 said:
Wade should have never come back from Philly. That just allowed the culture of soft entitlement to breed. Now you have to clean the whole organization again, just like Campo years V2.

Wade should have never been hired in the first place.
 
I know there are a lot of reasons not to change a coach mid-season, but one significant benefit of doing so would be to begin changing the culture of the team. That takes time, and I'd rather it begin now than wait.
 
aikemirv;3650190 said:
I would just fire Wade and move on. Someone needs to change the mental state of this team now. This cannot continue! Who, I don't know.

I know it is not going to happen, but I don't know how you can let Wade finish off this season. You ought to bring someone in to start building toughness today because this group will quit if Wade lets them and continues to do the things he is doing like praising their "effort"

That statement right there should make Jerry get rid of him. Anybody can see they quit!

Cowher would be my first choice but I don't think he is coming here. Gruden would be #2 I think at this point.

jerry jones has never ever fired a head coach midseason

2nd you cant hire a top head coach now, because no top head coach wants to come in midstream

top head coaches want to strart fresh in offseason

and i dont want a rethread head coach, i want a head coach on up and coming, (example tomlin with steelers) or rex ryan, a coach with fire in his belly for his first super bowl
 
newlander;3650221 said:
..ain't gonna happen boys. Unless the stadium has 50k in it next home game. THEN it will happen.............


I'm pretty sure I've read where this season is basically sold out. Now whether the fans sell those tickets remains to be seen. We have no home field advantage anyway. They can't win at home. As badly as they've played this year they play better on the road for some strange reason.

Watching on TV the boos were very noticeable last night.
 
cowboyjoe;3650240 said:
jerry jones has never ever fired a head coach midseason

2nd you cant hire a top head coach now, because no top head coach wants to come in midstream

top head coaches want to strart fresh in offseason

and i dont want a rethread head coach, i want a head coach on up and coming, (example tomlin with steelers) or rex ryan, a coach with fire in his belly for his first super bowl

The only problem with that. I think Jerry will think he can control a younger coach without much experience. That's why you need someone that has skins on the wall.
 
anava;3650272 said:
The only problem with that. I think Jerry will think he can control a younger coach without much experience. That's why you need someone that has skins on the wall.

I agree.

And if you go with the coach who commands Jerry's respect, there's a good chance that 1) the game has passed that coach by (e.g., Parcells, Gibbs, etc.) and 2) Jerry will continue to meddle anyway.

The question of who should be the next coach may not have a correct answer, other than "Jerry, sell the team."
 
I would make the change now, not because of some "culture of the team" or any such sentimental claptrap, but because Wade's #1 priority will be to salvage his job/reptuation by trying to finish with the best record possible at the end of the year, while the organization's #1 priority should be to evaluate their players and get a grip on exactly what we have, what we have to work with heading into the offseason and what absolutely needs to be addressed.

I'm benching Marc Colombo and giving Sam Young a 10 week try out for the 2011 right tackle job. I'm benching Gurode and his reportedly degenerate knee and giving Costa an 10 game job interview for the 2011 starting center position. I'm benching Brookings for Sean Lee. The more of these young guys that step up to the plate and prove themselves, the less resources you have to move there. These are things that need to be done, that Wade is absolutely not going to do.
 
It's kind of like how civilizations throughout history have offered sacrifice to appease the gods. We need Wade offered up to appease the fans - hold SOMEONE accountable already.
 
anava;3650272 said:
The only problem with that. I think Jerry will think he can control a younger coach without much experience. That's why you need someone that has skins on the wall.

That and the fact that for every Sean Payton you have 15 Marty Morningwegs and Scott Linehans. And for every Mike Tomlin (who is more a product of the Steelers organization than a great HC) you have 15 Rod Marinellis and Jim Hasletts.

Mainly when people say they want a "young guy with something to prove" they want some unknown guy who hasn't been around long enough, proven enough or fought in enough wars to have any blemishes on his resume.
 
InmanRoshi;3650354 said:
I would make the change now, not because of some "culture of the team" or any such sentimental claptrap, but because Wade's #1 priority will be to salvage his job/reptuation by trying to finish with the best record possible at the end of the year, while the organization's #1 priority should be to evaluate their players and get a grip on exactly what we have, what we have to work with heading into the offseason and what absolutely needs to be addressed.

I'm benching Marc Colombo and giving Sam Young a 10 week try out for the 2011 right tackle job. I'm benching Gurode and his reportedly degenerate knee and giving Costa an 10 game job interview for the 2011 starting center position. I'm benching Brookings for Sean Lee. The more of these young guys that step up to the plate and prove themselves, the less resources you have to move there. These are things that need to be done, that Wade is absolutely not going to do.

I'm feeling the same way.

I also have McGee starting at some point (maybe not next week, but within the next 4).
 
SDCowboy85;3650213 said:
You let Wade finish now because we can't accurately judge a new HC with Tony out.

agreed. let wade take credit for the mess.
 
InmanRoshi;3650354 said:
I would make the change now, not because of some "culture of the team" or any such sentimental claptrap, but because Wade's #1 priority will be to salvage his job/reptuation by trying to finish with the best record possible at the end of the year, while the organization's #1 priority should be to evaluate their players and get a grip on exactly what we have, what we have to work with heading into the offseason and what absolutely needs to be addressed.

I'm benching Marc Colombo and giving Sam Young a 10 week try out for the 2011 right tackle job. I'm benching Gurode and his reportedly degenerate knee and giving Costa an 10 game job interview for the 2011 starting center position. I'm benching Brookings for Sean Lee. The more of these young guys that step up to the plate and prove themselves, the less resources you have to move there. These are things that need to be done, that Wade is absolutely not going to do.

In fairness, I don't think Jerry is going to let this happen anyway with an interim coach, especially since I'm assuming he hands the keys to RJ.

I don't think a Gruden comes in mid season, and only someone like him will have the skins to make Jerry go into evaluation mode.

Jerry's still got tickets and extra Brooking jerseys he needs to sell.
 

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