How Chris Cooley could have actually been funny...

jday

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,321
Reaction score
13,284
dallasfaniac;2871628 said:
That's what often happens when you write a book; people read the first chapter then put it down.
I'm not a stranger to the phenomenon at all; I contribute to several blogs and typically anything I write is long-winded. But I've long recognized the cowboyzone as the one place I get the most feedback because people will read anything related to the Cowboy's here; even if it's a book.

Oh well. I guess I was wrong in my orginal assessment.
 

dallasfaniac

Active Member
Messages
4,198
Reaction score
1
jday;2871638 said:
I've long recognized the cowboyzone as the one place I get the most feedback because people will read anything related to the Cowboy's here; even if it's a book.

That was more about Cooley not being funny than the Cowboys IMO. I still read the whole thing though.
 

Four

New Member
Messages
2,601
Reaction score
1
DallasEast;2871613 said:
The one saving grace of Heath Ledger's career is that he played The Joker in The Dark Knight before he died. People will remember him much more for that movie than his role in Brokeback Mountain (thank goodness!).


meh, so he played a gay dude, he did a really good job of it too.

Pretty good acting if you ask me. Plus there were some pretty hot women in that movie. I give it two thumbs up, but I am not saying where.
 

Boyzmamacita

CowBabe Up!!!
Messages
29,047
Reaction score
64,100
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
DallasEast;2871613 said:
The one saving grace of Heath Ledger's career is that he played The Joker in The Dark Knight before he died. People will remember him much more for that movie than his role in Brokeback Mountain (thank goodness!).
All joking aside, Heath Ledger was EXCELLENT in Brokeback Mountain. So was Jake Gyllenhall (sp.). Try watching the movie, fellas. You'll enjoy it and it won't make you gay.

NTTAWWT.:)
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
Sonny#9;2871539 said:
Didn't Randy Galloway refer to some Cowboys fans as CowSheep? :D
Big damned deal. Can I tell you about the peanuts?

Oh hell, I'm going to anyway. While I acknowledge that there does exist the peanut, it is not the origin of your team name. That still remains utterly stupid.

When you are done reading this I have only one question for you. Do you still want to play? I got way more ammo than you could ever bring.

*****

Yesterday I asked several Commanders fans to tell us about the peanuts. They wouldn't, so I will. I have shared snippets of this story before, but never the whole story.

I used to work construction, and in the field I always wore a Dallas Cowboys ball cap. One day we were having a load of lumber delivered and the driver notices my cap and proceeds to dazzle me with his brilliance. You will soon discover I am being very sarcastic about his brilliance.

I am sorry to say he was the dumbest football fan I have ever met. It is a wide gap to the second dumbest. To this day I continue to hope that this man never has children. That would be cruel.

You see, he told me about the peanuts. I have never been quite the same.

As you have undoubtedly guessed he was a Commanders fan. I do not know why, but out of the clear blue after he made a remark about my cap he began to tell me that the mascot Commanders was not a slight of Native Americans. You see, the name actually comes from a brand of peanut that is indigenous (hell no he didn't use that word, he was an idiot) only to the area around Washington, DC.

Sadly, he wasn't kidding. He proceeded to describe for me the red skin of this particular peanut and even told me how I have probably eaten these peanuts and didn't know that they were Commander peanuts from that area.

I was fascinated. Not so much by his story as I was that he could actually form words into sentences. Quite a feat for someone of such low intelligence quotient. He ended by telling me that whenever he had the chance to do so, he told people the true meaning of the word Commanders that is the team mascot.

Then he did the dumbest thing of all. He asked me what I thought.

So, I told him.

The first thing I asked him was if he thought the Commanders had always been in the District of Columbia. I could tell by his blank expression that he had no idea where I was going. I honestly don't think he knew DC stood for District of Columbia.

The fact of the matter is, the team originated from Boston and their first year, 1932, they were the Boston Football Braves. The word Football was there to distinguish them from the baseball team of the same name.

I asked him if there was a Braves peanut indigenous to the Boston area. He stuttered and stammered a couple of guttural grunting noises, but it was clear immediately that he was completely unaware of this fact about his team.

I then told him that after the inaugural year as the Braves they moved across Boston to Fenway Park and instead of calling themselves the Boston Football Red Sox, they went with Commanders. It was at this time that the theory began that the name Commanders was in honor of coach Sonny Dietz, a man who was part Sioux Indian. Quite a tribute given they fired the man right after the very next year. Two years before they moved to DC and kept the mascot name. I tend to doubt the name is really a tribute to Dietz.

How prescient of the team to know that four years before they would ever move to the area where this rare peanut is found and apparently revered enough to be anonymous to the rest of the thinking world, that the team would go ahead and honor this peanut with its own NFL mascot. That is the essence of omniscience.

You see, you did not know this yesterday but that logo on the sides of their helmets is actually a peanut. Chief Zee (whom I really respect by the way) is actually merely another variation of the Planters peanut man. It's just that instead of a top hat, tuxedo, cane, and monocle he has a headdress, buckskins, tomahawk, and glasses.

I believe this Forrest Gump-like Commanders fan wanted to leave right then and there, but I was not going to let that happen.

I asked him if he liked the song "Hail to the Commanders." Of course he did. The best damn fight song in the NFL. I briefly considered telling him that his precious fight song is directly responsible for the Dallas Cowboys landing a team, but I felt that might crush him. I love that story though. I did ask him to tell me about the peanut lines in the song. I figured since he knew it and loved it this would be an easy task.

He said that the words of the song didn't say anything about peanuts, but that the name Commanders still wasn't an insult.

Here are the original words to that song...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Hail to the Commanders![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Hail Victory![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Braves on the Warpath![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Fight for old Dixie![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Scalp 'em, swamp 'em -- We will take 'em big score[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Read 'em, weep 'em, touchdown - we want heap more[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Fight on, Fight on -- 'Till you have won[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah![/FONT]​

Yeah, those words were not meant to perpetrate a stereotype at all.

It was already clear to me that he had no idea of the study of etymology, which is the origin of words. If he had known of it he would have found that there was no such thing as a Commander peanut. I am sorry to tell you that. I know you were all adding it to your grocery lists. However, just like no California team has an avocado mascot, no Washington team has an apple mascot, no Florida team has a citrus mascot, the Commanders have nothing to do with peanuts.

You see, the word actually comes from the time of the trappers. They sold wolf skins, beaver skins, bearskins, and some sold Commanders. Those were Indian scalps. Of course the word is meant as a slight against Native Americans. Some will argue that the original intent of the word has evolved, and that is fine if they choose to believe that, but folks it never had anything to do with peanuts. I am sure you already knew that.

Delivery boy didn't. I asked him to tell me about George Preston Marshall. He said he didn't even know what position he played. So I told him he was the founder of the Washington Commanders. I also told him that GP Marshall was also the biggest racist in the History of the NFL. The Grand Wizard. He was directly responsible for the ostracism of Blacks from the NFL though they had originally been welcome to play and did play for a time until he intervened and used his incredible pressure to take those opportunities away.

You see, Marshall was by far the most powerful owner in the entire NFL. Even more powerful than the Papa Bear, George Halas. For a time, the NFL followed his lead. From 1933 to 1946 the NFL did not allow integration of Blacks in the NFL. After this teams began to integrate. Not the Commanders. GP Marshall did not integrate until pressure from the Kennedy Administration forced him to.

In 1962 the team drafted Syracuse RB, Ernie Davis in the first round. Davis was the first Black to win the Heisman Trophy. There is a new movie about him getting ready to hit theaters. He was not the first Black man to play for the Commanders. He said, "I will not play for that son of a *****." He meant George Preston Marshall.

Sadly, Ernie Davis never did play in the NFL at all. He got leukemia and died at the age of 23. His rights were traded o the Cleveland Browns for Bobby Mitchell. He would be the first Black man to play for the Commanders and he would go on to have a Hall of Fame career.

Ever since that day I have made sure one thing is on my game day menu. Peanuts. Get your fresh hot peanuts.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
jday;2871622 said:
Wow. Just wow.

If it was not already obvious, just so I'm clear, the whole reason the Brokeback Mountain joke was included was to refute any arguments suggesting that the reason I didn't find Cooley funny was because of a personal bias against jokes involving my beloved Cowboy's.

I get the feeling several of you are reading the joke and commenting without reading the rest, but I could be wrong...
I did exactly that. I went from calm to blood boiling and didn't need to read the rest. As far as I am concerned the point is the joke. Too bad the joke's on them for not knowing any facts.
 

DallasEast

Cowboys 24/7/365
Staff member
Messages
62,320
Reaction score
64,017
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Four;2871647 said:
meh, so he played a gay dude, he did a really good job of it too.

Pretty good acting if you ask me. Plus there were some pretty hot women in that movie. I give it two thumbs up, but I am not saying where.
http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/Rebus08072009.jpg
 

DallasEast

Cowboys 24/7/365
Staff member
Messages
62,320
Reaction score
64,017
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Boyzmamacita;2871652 said:
All joking aside, Heath Ledger was EXCELLENT in Brokeback Mountain. So was Jake Gyllenhall (sp.). Try watching the movie, fellas. You'll enjoy it and it won't make you gay.

NTTAWWT.:)
It took some time before I actually sat down and watched Brokeback Mountain, but I finally did. My opinion remains unchanged. :)
 

vta

The Proletariat
Messages
8,753
Reaction score
11
Four;2871647 said:
I give it two thumbs up, but I am not saying where.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Dude, I spit a mouth full of French Fry crumbs at me keyboard.
 

dadymat

I'm kind of a Big Deal
Messages
6,023
Reaction score
1
no offense to anyone but....what made men decide to watch a movie about gay sheep herders ?......when i hear about a gay movie i know automatically that I will never watch it....
 

TellerMorrow34

BraveHeartFan
Messages
28,358
Reaction score
5,076
Wow. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone get as worked up as Hos over a freaking joke. The stories you shared were cool, as they were the first time around as well, but seriously man you went from calm to blood boiling over them calling the dudes in Brokeback Mountain Cowboys?

Who gives a flying crap what they call them? It doesn't matter. It's a movie. It's not important what anyone calls them. And even with there being coke heads, gays, and racists in the history of the Commanders franchise doesn't make some jokes anymore funny, or less funny, than they were.

The worst part of all that is, and it's probably where a lot of folks who don't know the history of the sheep herder/cowboy thing, is that when that movie came out they had a couple of news shows (20/20 I believe) about real life Cowboys who were praising the movie for helping them come out of the closet about their own personal lives. Even real life Cowboys didn't give a crap that the movie was about Sheep Herders.

So they said they both have Cowboys who suck. That's hilarious. It made me chuckle. Bravo. It's not a big deal cause it means absolutely nothing in the scheme of...well...anything.


But the great part about Hos getting worked up is that he posted those two stories again. Those are brilliant, no matter the reason they're being posted, and always a fun and educational read.
 

TellerMorrow34

BraveHeartFan
Messages
28,358
Reaction score
5,076
dadymat;2871751 said:
no offense to anyone but....what made men decide to watch a movie about gay sheep herders ?......when i hear about a gay movie i know automatically that I will never watch it....

Yep. Exactly. Doesn't matter if they were gay cowboys, gay sheep herders, gay hair dressers, gay dancers, gay football players. If the sole point of the movie is to show the struggles, or whatever, of a gay relationship I'm simply not interested. More power to those who are and watched the movie, and found it enjoyable, but that stuff just doesn't interest me at all.

That's why I've never seen Brokeback Mountain and I never will.
 

jday

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,321
Reaction score
13,284
BraveHeartFan;2871758 said:
Wow. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone get as worked up as Hos over a freaking joke. The stories you shared were cool, as they were the first time around as well, but seriously man you went from calm to blood boiling over them calling the dudes in Brokeback Mountain Cowboys?

Who gives a flying crap what they call them? It doesn't matter. It's a movie. It's not important what anyone calls them. And even with there being coke heads, gays, and racists in the history of the Commanders franchise doesn't make some jokes anymore funny, or less funny, than they were.

The worst part of all that is, and it's probably where a lot of folks who don't know the history of the sheep herder/cowboy thing, is that when that movie came out they had a couple of news shows (20/20 I believe) about real life Cowboys who were praising the movie for helping them come out of the closet about their own personal lives. Even real life Cowboys didn't give a crap that the movie was about Sheep Herders.

So they said they both have Cowboys who suck. That's hilarious. It made me chuckle. Bravo. It's not a big deal cause it means absolutely nothing in the scheme of...well...anything.


But the great part about Hos getting worked up is that he posted those two stories again. Those are brilliant, no matter the reason they're being posted, and always a fun and educational read.
See, I'm with you. Despite the historical inaccuracy of the joke, I still think it's funny. But I can appreciate Hostile's take on just about anything; even if it is to argue my contribution (sort of).
 

jday

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,321
Reaction score
13,284
Hostile;2871679 said:
I did exactly that. I went from calm to blood boiling and didn't need to read the rest. As far as I am concerned the point is the joke. Too bad the joke's on them for not knowing any facts.
Hostile, as always, you are the smack talk king in the blogging world. If I had to pick a tag team partner, out of all the bloggers I have encountered, I'd be looking for you.

That having been said, you seriously should give the rest a read...I swear, the joke was only told to offset any bias accusations, as far as my own sense of humor.
 

jday

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,321
Reaction score
13,284
Someone put another quarter in Hostile...otherwise I'm going to need change for a dollar!

:shoot4:
 

Four

New Member
Messages
2,601
Reaction score
1
dadymat;2871751 said:
no offense to anyone but....what made men decide to watch a movie about gay sheep herders ?......when i hear about a gay movie i know automatically that I will never watch it....

what does it matter if it's about gay dudes?

it's not gonna turn you gay, unless you already are and afraid you just need a little encouragement to make the change...

dudes are pretty dumb about the gay thing, I don't dig watching dudes make out or anything, but it's still just a movie. I was pretty indifferent to the gay stuff, well some of it was kinda gross, but it was a decent flick.

plus chicks dig dudes who are secure about that kinda stuff.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
BraveHeartFan;2871758 said:
Wow. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone get as worked up as Hos over a freaking joke. The stories you shared were cool, as they were the first time around as well, but seriously man you went from calm to blood boiling over them calling the dudes in Brokeback Mountain Cowboys?

Who gives a flying crap what they call them? It doesn't matter. It's a movie. It's not important what anyone calls them. And even with there being coke heads, gays, and racists in the history of the Commanders franchise doesn't make some jokes anymore funny, or less funny, than they were.

The worst part of all that is, and it's probably where a lot of folks who don't know the history of the sheep herder/cowboy thing, is that when that movie came out they had a couple of news shows (20/20 I believe) about real life Cowboys who were praising the movie for helping them come out of the closet about their own personal lives. Even real life Cowboys didn't give a crap that the movie was about Sheep Herders.

So they said they both have Cowboys who suck. That's hilarious. It made me chuckle. Bravo. It's not a big deal cause it means absolutely nothing in the scheme of...well...anything.


But the great part about Hos getting worked up is that he posted those two stories again. Those are brilliant, no matter the reason they're being posted, and always a fun and educational read.
Now you have an inkling about the nickname.

:grin:

Actually you can mention any Cowboys hating fan talking smack and it will probably get me amped for a scrap.

Not jday's fault at all, because I consider him a top poster. I will go back and read the original post at some point, but I may have to cover that joke first.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
jday;2871852 said:
Hostile, as always, you are the smack talk king in the blogging world. If I had to pick a tag team partner, out of all the bloggers I have encountered, I'd be looking for you.

That having been said, you seriously should give the rest a read...I swear, the joke was only told to offset any bias accusations, as far as my own sense of humor.
I promise I will. Have to get the blood pressure stabilized first.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
dadymat;2871751 said:
no offense to anyone but....what made men decide to watch a movie about gay sheep herders ?......when i hear about a gay movie i know automatically that I will never watch it....
No kidding.

Some will say it is because of being uncomfortable in your manhood or whatever. Not for me it isn't. I just know I will not be sympathetic to the characters and won't enjoy the movie. My next door neighbors for years were gay, and we got along great. I thought Philadelphia was a great movie. Last I checked that movie had a gay storyline.

I just don't like the premise of the movie and thus will never see it.
 
Top