How do we stop McCoy next time?

[Zman5]

Even with Lee playing, we had no answer for this guy.
Every time I thought they had him contained, he make our guys miss and get a huge gain. I knew he was good but I think he's better than Westbrook was in his prime.

 

[Hostile]

I hope we try tackling.

 

[lane]

Even with Lee playing, we had no answer for this guy.
Every time I thought they had him contained, he make our guys miss and get a huge gain. I knew he was good but I think he's better than Westbrook was in his prime.

i told my son last night how happy i was when westbrook the cowboy killer was no longer in philly...

what do they do?............get another westbrook...:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Anticipate that he is going to cut, and not be over agressive.

 

[jazzcat22]

Maybe he will have a bad game....

 

[JoeCorrado]

I hope we try tackling.

Amen. We sure had a lot of whiffs yesterday. I am sure some of those were McCoy, but some were just us missing.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

How about tackling right? That should help limit him. It's like the defense forgot to tackle over night.

 

[CATCH17]

I would start by activating Josh Brent instead of David Buehler.

 

[Eskimo]

We have to be much more disciplined in our gap control. That's most of the reason that he had a big night.

 

[Zman5]

The problem is that they were trying to tackle him but couldn't because he was so much quicker than our front 7. Even Sean Lee couldn't get a hold of him. Maybe next time around, Carter will be ready to play more on defense.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Play 8 men in the box with the SS and have the FS play very deep. CBs need to play aggressive bump and run coverage with Maclin and Jackson so they can't beat them with the intermediate routes. Don't be afraid to even get a penalty for illegal contact, as long as it's good, physical contact. You gotta be physical with their WRs and try to take them out of the game early. See the Pats vs. Colts in one of those old AFC Championship games, that's the prototypical game to show how to be physical with small, finesse receivers.

The main thing is to make sure the run is shutdown though. You make a team one dimensional, you'll usually be in good shape

 

[Shadowy329]

Not let 71 (peters?) clear the entire d-line over and over.

 

[Asklesko]

Dez simulated Vick in practice. He should have simulated McCoy.

 

[masomenos]

I'd probably start by telling our guys to let go of their ankles and pull up their up their pants.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Have the DL do their job and not get pushed and shoved around easily, especially "Big Dog" Coleman or Spears or Hatrcher etc. That was an putrid performance by DL , other than Rat and Ware.

 

[lane]

Not let 71 (peters?) clear the entire d-line over and over.

 

[lane]

I'd probably start by telling our guys to let go of their ankles and pull up their up their pants.

 

[casmith07]

You don't line up and have literally no pre-snap movement, I know that much.

 

[rathalarge]

Watch his waist... not his head and shoulders, wrap and tackle. Backyard type of things!

 

[sonnyboy]

Even with Lee playing, we had no answer for this guy.
Every time I thought they had him contained, he make our guys miss and get a huge gain. I knew he was good but I think he's better than Westbrook was in his prime.

Finally a constructive thread. That's what I do, look for solutions instead of giving up, finding a fall guy and doing all I can to insulate myself from further dissapointment.

It's week 9 and we have 9 games left in the season. Last thing I want to discuss is 2012, who we look to replace or what draft prospects look good.

So now we have an 800lb gorilla waiting for us in week 16 and believe me now, we're not winning the division or sniffing anything better than a 6th seed if we can't beat them.

So how do we do it? How do we play the run, rush Vic while limiting his running ops......all while we have enough people in coverage to limit the passing game.

Tough questions but I'll take a few swings.......

1st off, the best defense is a good offense. As bad as we were defensively last night, it was actually matched by the offense and why the game was over so quick.

The weak spot of the eagles is still the defense. LBs and Ss. We need a game plan that attcks that. Puts them in a position to have to make plays. And you start that with the running game. We did that last night so that's a positive. Problem was we couldn't convert the 3rd and mediums we had and that's a problem. We couldn't didn't string together drives.

I think Romo will be healthier and performing at a higher level in week 16 so trhat will help. But he must play better for sure in the rematch. If Dez doesn't know the playbook, he shouldn't be starting over Robinson.

Buttom line is we need to be aggressive and take a few more chances on 3rd down. If it leads to TOs and that costs us the game, so be it. But we can't get shut out over even 3 straight possesions, we'll lose.

Also think we'll need to work in more play action, screens and roll outs.


Defensively I think Ryan's gameplan was actually quite sound. I believe he took the talent and matchups into consideration and realized just how good this offense was. Cover 2 shell to minimize the big play and make them go the field in 6-8 plays. Force them to execute and stop them in the red zone.

Problem was, they executed! Better than may have ever in any game under Vic. Especially in the red zone which up to last night had been killing them.

I think Carter as a starter in week 16 could be the difference. Hopefully by then he has the playbook down and a few starts under his belt. I know I'm hanging my hope on a rookie, but it's probably needed. If we're going to play that cover 2 shell the MLBs are critical. They will be the focal point as they were most of last night and attacked. They will have to tackle McCoy in some space, shoot the gaps to get him in the backfield on occasion when the opportunity presents itself. On pass plays they will have to cover alot of space in zone and cover well in man. And of course come up and put the hurt on Vic when he scrambles.

The biggest key will be being less predictable. That has been Ryan hallmark before last night. We can't let them read or intentions or mail to steal Ryan's line. When we blitzed they killed us with the screen or a McCoy run right in the open gap. When we we're thinking pass the killed us with the run. When we were think run, Vic dropped back with too much time. And when his protection broke down he almost always successful scrambled on us.

I think we have to have a lot of bodies around the LOS fainting blitz most plays. Sometimes they come and sometimes they don't. But don't give him any obvious reads on it. This will limit the plays they call. They won't want to roll out and Vic will audble out of a lot of runs so they'll end up running less.

And we should blitz more. Way may get burned on it more than we can bare and we may lose because of that, but it beats the altrnative which is last night. We can still play off and avoid giving up the huge 50 yard scoring play. Just more likely to give up the 15-30 yard play and we can live with that. We'll just have to play better in the red zone.

But the benefit of more blizes are threefold.
1) More plays where Vic stays in the pocket and attemplts a pass downfiled.
2) Less opportunities for him to scramble.
3) And most importnantly....more opportuniteis to hit him in the pocket as he's passing. He hates that as much as any QB. Maybe more because he can run and feels like he shouldn't have to take those hits. And the more that scenario plays out, the less effective he'll be.