How do you guys feel about Louis Nix?

[Beats_By_Zeke]

so i was looking at online opinionated mock drafts, and saw one where they had Tennessee taking Donald at 11, chicago taking Jerrigan at 14 and the boys taking Nix at 16 for Dt.
I dont really know anything about him, any one know if the front office is high on him?
http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles-2/

 

[RS12]

How do you guys feel about Louis Nix?

Highly doubt they draft him.

 

[AsthmaField]

He does not fit Dallas' system nor is he what Marinelli wants in a DT.

 

[xwalker]

so i was looking at online opinionated mock drafts, and saw one where they had Tennessee taking Donald at 11, chicago taking Jerrigan at 14 and the boys taking Nix at 16 for Dt.
I dont really know anything about him, any one know if the front office is high on him?
http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles-2/

Marinelli DLinemen are usually the super quick types. Nix is very quick for his size, but at 330+ he is not quick compared to the guys that weight around 300.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Wouldn't like it. I think he could be a better fit for the system than some think, but too many red flags. Huge guy with knee issues doesn't make me want to spend a 1st on him. He's more of a two down player. If he fell to us in the 2nd I would be very tempted, but 1st round I want an impact player. Let a true 3-4 team take him round 1.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

Personally wouldn't dislike it. I think he's a uniquely valuable player. But he's not a fit for the reasons already mentioned, so won't happen.

 

[Hardline]

If the Cowboys still ran the 3_4 defense I would love drafting him. Prototype nose guard.

 

[starfrombirth]

so i was looking at online opinionated mock drafts, and saw one where they had Tennessee taking Donald at 11, chicago taking Jerrigan at 14 and the boys taking Nix at 16 for Dt.
I dont really know anything about him, any one know if the front office is high on him?
http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles-2/

I like Nix but everyone seems to think the 'boys won't take a 1 Tech in the 1st. I personally believe that if we try and get too cute we are going to screw ourselves.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He does not fit Dallas' system nor is he what Marinelli wants in a DT.

It is a mistake to think that Marinelli's system dictates only "Ultraquick" DTs. That's actually not the case at all. His system relies on players who are disruptive. Now, this can come in a few different forms. They can be exceptionally quick or they can be massively strong or they can be a combination of both. Nix is the latter. I would love to have Nix and I believe he is the best DT option in this draft but again, that is only my opinion.

I would be very happy to have in at 16. JMO

 

[Sydla]

so i was looking at online opinionated mock drafts, and saw one where they had Tennessee taking Donald at 11, chicago taking Jerrigan at 14 and the boys taking Nix at 16 for Dt.
I dont really know anything about him, any one know if the front office is high on him?
http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles-2/

Nix is likely a better fit as a NT in a 3-4 than a DT in a 4-3. If you want him, I'd rather see us move down a few spots, pick up a pick or two and then take him because he seems to now be trending in that 22-28 range in most realistic mocks.

 

[tm1119]

Not sure he's worthy of the #16 overall pick in this class, but if we were to trade back and land him I would be very happy. He's an extremely talented player who has a real shot to be the next Vince Wilfork in my opinion.

Big strong guys like Nix work just fine in the 4-3. Look at Carolina and what Rivera did with Star last year and what he did for that D. But I'm sure Star "wouldn't fit" Maranelli's system either according to this board

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Nix is likely a better fit as a NT in a 3-4 than a DT in a 4-3. If you want him, I'd rather see us move down a few spots, pick up a pick or two and then take him because he seems to now be trending in that 22-28 range in most realistic mocks.

Not really true, the 34 NT part. That's not Nix. It might be if he were taught to play with better leverage and use better technique in keeping guys out of his grill but that's not the player he's really ever been. He's a guy who relies on splitting the gap and playing football on the Offensive side of the line. He's not a guy who is going to anchor and just eat blocks. In a San Diego style 34 or in a Phillips style 34, he might work but not in a traditional 34 IMO. He's not that guy.

 

[visionary]

unless there is a player we really love on the board at 16, this is partly why my preference would be to try and trade down to 21-25 range because a lot of guys are likely to be there who suddenly become great value in that area like nix, jernigan, ealy, even hagemann

 

[Sydla]

Not really true, the 34 NT part. That's not Nix. It might be if he were taught to play with better leverage and use better technique in keeping guys out of his grill but that's not the player he's really ever been. He's a guy who relies on splitting the gap and playing football on the Offensive side of the line. He's not a guy who is going to anchor and just eat blocks. In a San Diego style 34 or in a Phillips style 34, he might work but not in a traditional 34 IMO. He's not that guy.

He played in a 3-4 at ND was very good at it and it certainly wasn't a Phillips style 3-4 defense.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He played in a 3-4 at ND was very good at it and it certainly wasn't a Phillips style 3-4 defense.

He played in both schemes and he also played DE there as well.

Watch him against Alabama. In that game, when Nix anchored, Alabama abused him and the rest of the Irish front seven. When he penetrated, he was able to make plays. That will give you an idea of what might happen if you play him in that role at the next level.

 

[Sydla]

He played in both schemes and he also played DE there as well.

Watch him against Alabama. In that game, when Nix anchored, Alabama abused him and the rest of the Irish front seven. When he penetrated, he was able to make plays. That will give you an idea of what might happen if you play him in that role at the next level.

When did he play DE at ND?

Also, he never played in a 4-3 at ND. His first year at ND, where he redshirted, was 2010 and that was Kelly's first year there. His first DC was Bob Diaco and they played a 3-4 every year under Diaco.

And the Bama game actually shows he did his job adequately. He ate up blockers but Teo had a horrific game as did the other ND LBers. He also was playing that game with a severely sore knee that he admitted to later.

 

[Sydla]

Not trying to be disrespectful ABQ, by the way.

 

[tm1119]

When did he play DE at ND?

Also, he never played in a 4-3 at ND. His first year at ND, where he redshirted, was 2010 and that was Kelly's first year there. His first DC was Bob Diaco and they played a 3-4 every year under Diaco.

Yes, ND played 3-4, but they also used plenty of 4-3 fronts. I encourage you to go back and watch Nix if you think he is just a space eating NT. I'm not even sure you can find a scouting report on him that doesn't commend his initial burst and how fluid and athletic he is.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When did he play DE at ND?

Also, he never played in a 4-3 at ND. His first year at ND, where he redshirted, was 2010 and that was Kelly's first year there. His first DC was Bob Diaco and they played a 3-4 every year under Diaco.

And the Bama game actually shows he did his job adequately. He ate up blockers but Teo had a horrific game as did the other ND LBers. He also was playing that game with a severely sore knee that he admitted to later.

Notre Dame does not play a straight 3-4. They play both schemes. The fact that Teo and all of the ND LBers got eat up is precisely why he does not project to a traditional 34 NT. The Job of the NT is to keep the LBers clean and able to flow. That obviously didn't happen and the game in the trenches was played on the Defensive side of the ball. Had Nix played a good game while anchoring, you would have seen Teo making all kinds of plays. That didn't happen. Nix only made plays when they used him to shoot the gap and influence defensively. That's where he made all of his tackles for loss and had impact. Just eating blocks, he got dominated IMO.

On the DE, I think you are right. I think it was Truitt who moved down and got snaps on the interior when Nix was injured and not the other way around. I just got the two of them mixed up in that regard. I had read an evaluation saying that Tuitt could play either position in the NFL but I mistakenly thought that it was Nix. My apology for that.

 

[KDM256]

I think Nix can help this team if drafted

I think New England/ San Fran will try to grab him inthe 1st and Nix will be great with either or if he's fully healthy.