How does Dak Prescott compare to other great QB’s of this era?

[G2]

Everyone ‘struggled’ because we had to run the offense through the middle of the field while defenses clogged the middle because Dak can’t throw to the sidelines 10-20 yards downfield.

That’s the big difference between year 1 and 2. Defenses started clogging the middle and begging us to attack the outside. Not only couldn’t we do it, we really didn’t try to do it because we knew Dak isn’t ready to make those throws.

So if you can’t attack the outside no reason to keep Dez and if we need to go to 10 personnel to compensate for the lack of an outside passing game no reason for Witten to stick around.

Will be interesting to see if Dak has improved throwing outside downfield or we try to scheme our way around his past limitations.

So you're suggesting Prescott can't throw to the sidelines 10-20 yards downfield, right?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

There have been a few, but what you're leaving out is a good defense. Prescott played plenty good enough in the playoffs to win offensively. That's not what lost us the game. So your Dak hatred point is really silly if you factor everything realistically.
Not just spouting off incorrect "facts" like he can't throw a back shoulder fade.......

Dak was not the reason we lost that playoff game. We'll see if he rebounds this year but that game told me he had leadership ability. Some have been waiting to pounce on him from year one.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Sweet
Yet another Dak thread

You would think they would slow down until the actual games start so we can see for ourselves how he's progressing. but no....

 

[erod]

You've posted a couple times that he can't throw it. Specifically, he can't throw it. If you would like to change your statement then that's cool.

And the team was different from 2016 to 2017. Everyone on offense struggled. Dak included. To ignore or refuse to admit that is ignorant.

You exaggerate a lot when it comes to Prescott.

The quarterback has the ball in his hand. Every single receiver had a down a year. Every one. He missed a lot of easy throws, and didn't try to make others.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Sweet
Yet another Dak thread

I'll make another by this evening bro. Don't you worry

 

[jrumann59]

Do not forget a lot of the throws where he was late that resulted in catch but zero yac. Dallas had a lot of receivers tackled as they caught the ball due to bad timing. Game of inches. He is young but he needs to continue to tweak his delivery and speed up his reads.

 

[G2]

The quarterback has the ball in his hand. Every single receiver had a down a year. Every one. He missed a lot of easy throws, and didn't try to make others.

You're the one that claimed he couldn't make the throw. Which is not true. You made it up. So when you make further claims it's really hard to subscribe to. I get that you hate Prescott but there are more realistic ways to be critical. Not making things up and then changing your statement.

 

[erod]

You're the one that claimed he couldn't make the throw. Which is not true. You made it up. So when you make further claims it's really hard to subscribe to. I get that you hate Prescott but there are more realistic ways to be critical. Not making things up and then changing your statement.

He can throw it. He just can't throw it where it's supposed to go.

 

[Flamma]

I might consider 4 on that list great. Most of them are good. Some, Like Goff, Wentz, even Dak, are not yet great QBs. As far as Dak is concerned, too small a sample size.

 

[Longboysfan]

Give him 5 years as a QB then come back to this.

 

[G2]

He can throw it. He just can't throw it where it's supposed to go.

You have derailed.....

 

[khiladi]

Well, he doesn't qualify as 'great'.. so there is that

 

[pansophy]

So you're suggesting Prescott can't throw to the sidelines 10-20 yards downfield, right?

Not consistently. Happy for someone to show me I'm wrong about it. I spent a lot of time last year looking for sideline throws that were not just go routes. Just didn't see them unless they were in the 5-7 yard range. Can't remember the last time one of our WR's had to work to keep his feet in bounds to catch a ball.

I'm sure someone can find a few plays last year where this kind of throw was made, but I'd watch other games and see those kinds of throws and catches 3-5 times a game. If defenses clog the middle of the field that is what is open and we still didn't see those passes.

 

[khiladi]

If you think Dak can effectively throw the back shoulder fade, then you've got more to learn about this game than I even imagined.

Dak was effective in 2016, not great, because he was an unknown commodity and he is incredibly poised for a young quarterback. Off the charts in that category. The run game was the best in football, and he supported it well by limiting his mistakes.

However, the book got out. Hold him in the pocket and make him work from there. He began to crater as the season went on. He played well against Green Bay, but they had an AWFUL defense that was missing 3 starters in the secondary and 2 linebackers. Green Bay was down, 31-0, the following week early in the second quarter. Just a dreadful defense, far worse than the Cowboys.

Against good defenses, Dak looks lost, dazed, and confused.

That has to change this year. Has to.

He can't throw the back shoulder fade and even Sanjay Lal said he can't do it.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/02/cowboys-take-another-dig-at-dez-bryant/

 

[panchucko]

Sweet
Yet another Dak thread

Not just a Dak thread, but a Dak is great and why can't you see it thread. I hope he does good this year since they will never give anyone else a shot at it.

 

[khiladi]

Not consistently. Happy for someone to show me I'm wrong about it. I spent a lot of time last year looking for sideline throws that were not just go routes. Just didn't see them unless they were in the 5-7 yard range. Can't remember the last time one of our WR's had to work to keep his feet in bounds to catch a ball.

I'm sure someone can find a few plays last year where this kind of throw was made, but I'd watch other games and see those kinds of throws and catches 3-5 times a game. If defenses clog the middle of the field that is what is open and we still didn't see those passes.

Plenty of his pick 6s were exactly because of his inability to. In fact, in the Denver game Talib was basically seeing it every time and Dez had to play DB multiple times before Talib finally got his last one returned for a TD.

Dak only throws it well when he's out of the pocket and it's in front of him. But that's not really throwing outside from the hashes.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

We will never win anything significant with Garrett and Dak. They just aren’t good enough. Prepare to be average for their tenure.

 

[JoeKing]

In his 3rd season, Dak is an MVP candidate. You can can just accept that fact now or have it rubbed in you face at the end of the season.

 

[JoeKing]

We will never win anything significant with Garrett and Dak. They just aren’t good enough. Prepare to be average for their tenure.

Noted and you will get those words rubbed in your face at the end of the season.

 

[Doomsday101]

We will never win anything significant with Garrett and Dak. They just aren’t good enough. Prepare to be average for their tenure.

OK , spoken like a true Pessimist lol