How Dominant is the Cowboys Running Attack After 3 Weeks?

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How Dominant is the Cowboys Running Attack After 3 Weeks?
Currently leading the NFL in rushing........nuff said.
 

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Q_the_man;2985200 said:
just say we avg well over 6.5 yards a carry and other teams avg around 4 and 5 yards. Alot of the avg is due to Felix avg around 10 yards a carry, now take him out the equation we only avg 5 yards a carry.
Our we really that good or is Felix really that special?

The average for Barber and Choice is 5.6yds per carry right now.

Even at 5.0 though, thats still a number that most years is going to lead the league.

So your answer is its some of both. Jones is truly special, but the OL is still doing a tremendous job for the others too.
 

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dbair1967;2985213 said:
The average for Barber and Choice is 5.6yds per carry right now.

Even at 5.0 though, thats still a number that most years is going to lead the league.

So your answer is its some of both. Jones is truly special, but the OL is still doing a tremendous job for the others too.

That's what's bothered me most the past several years. Too many times the RB's were getting nailed as soon as the got the ball, even though the Cowboys have been predominantly a passing team.

As you said earlier, that has not been a problem so far this year.
 

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Hostile;2985038 said:
First of all let's be clear, it is just 3 weeks. It is highly unlikely this will continue at this pace and it would be a Ruthian jump to actually improve.

Right now, Dallas has carried the ball 85 times for 581 yards.

The 581 yards represents the most yardage gained on the ground in the NFL by 69 yards. Only 1 other team, New Orleans at 512 yards, is over 500 yards rushing. Dallas is 3 carries (at their current pace) from being over 600 yards on the season. The Saints have carried the ball 17 times more than Dallas and is still 69 yards behind.

Dallas is averaging 193.7 yards per game. If by some miracle Dallas kept up that pace they would finish with 3100 yards rushing for the season.

If Dallas only gained a measly 19 yards rushing this week against Denver they would still be averaging 150 yards per game. That would currently put them at 7th in the NFL, 1 yard per game behind Tennessee.

The 85 carries by Dallas is nowhere near the league lead of 106 carries by the Giants. If Dallas matched their current production and had 106 carries they would have 721 yards rushing. That would be 209 yards more than the next closest team.

721 yards in 3 games would equate to 240 yards per game average.

Dallas has no fumbles while carrying the ball so far this season.

Dallas is tied with 2 other teams for 2nd in the NFL with 5 rushing TDs this season. Only Jacksonville of those 4 teasm representing the top 2 in rushing TDs has fewer carries than the Cowboys. They trail by 6 carries. The other 2 teams tied with (Saints) or ahead of (Ravens) the Cowboys have 102 and 101 carries respectively.

Run the ball, and keep on running it.

Not to take anything away from the O-line's production or the quality of our backs, but these stats are an indicator that teams expect us to pass 1st. In essence, the pass is setting up the run. This is the new era of football we are witnessing today but it is still apparent that teams running the ball more vs those that pass more, are still winning the big games. This is not the rule because in order to be successful in football teams have to capitalize on what the other team is giving up. Sometimes it's the pass but more often than not it's the run that wins those important games.

The Colts dominated the league with their passing but could never get over the hump till they got Addai. Elway needed Davis to get over the hump, and the Patriots had a dominant year passing but lost in the Super Bowl because they couldn't get the run game going. The Giants pounded Brady into oblivion with the blitz and the rest is history.

Yes sir Hos, we need to keep on running the ball...
 

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CowboyFan74;2985228 said:
Not to take anything away from the O-line's production or the quality of our backs, but these stats are an indicator that teams expect us to pass 1st. In essence, the pass is setting up the run. This is the new era of football we are witnessing today but it is still apparent that teams running the ball more vs those that pass more, are still winning the big games. This is not the rule because in order to be successful in football teams have to capitalize on what the other team is giving up. Sometimes it's the pass but more often than not it's the run that wins those important games.

The Colts dominated the league with their passing but could never get over the hump till they got Addai. Elway needed Davis to get over the hump, and the Patriots had a dominant year passing but lost in the Super Bowl because they couldn't get the run game going. The Giants pounded Brady into oblivion with the blitz and the rest is history.

Yes sir Hos, we need to keep on running the ball...

You make great points, but I think that if they continue to have success running the ball, that will influence Garrett to utilize the run even more, at least in tough games or when Romo is struggling.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2985161 said:
What the Saints are doing on offense is crazzzzzzzy! How can you air out the ball so much and STILL have an amazing run game like that??? They will be tough to beat ALL year, and to think Dallas will have to go down there this year... :eek:

Make the opposing team fear your passing attack and you'll be able to run. People forget that the '07 Pats also had the best per-play rushing attack in the league that year. Not because they had great RBs or even a great run blocking O-line, but because they were constantly facing 6 and 7 DBs at a time in some games.

Similarly, those who think our running game would be as good with Jon Kitna at QB are sorely mistaken.
 

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Probably the best this year if our rbs can stay on the field -.-
 
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Hostile;2985103 said:
No good. According to the other poster you can't pass 2 times in a row and be a dominant run offense.

I think that was ridiculous, but what do I know?

Overreact much?

I believe the posters are trying to say is Garrett doesnt understand momentum and rhythm. Why start chucking the ball 3 times in a row successfully when weve been dominating on the ground. Let the defense stop you. Let them bring 8-9 men in the box and commit to stopping the run.

Then use the pass to exploit one on one coverage.

Then the 2nd and 3rd down fade routes last game.

In the Giants game, it was obvious to anyone with a brain Tony was struggling.

Is it asking too much for Garrett to understand and take the ball out of his hands and give extra work to our running game which was dominant.

Ivy league educations are apparently vastly over-rated.

Heck, look at out current and previous presidents for further validation
 

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Cheap Shot Artist;2985369 said:
Overreact much?

I believe the posters are trying to say is Garrett doesnt understand momentum and rhythm. Why start chucking the ball 3 times in a row successfully when weve been dominating on the ground. Let the defense stop you. Let them bring 8-9 men in the box and commit to stopping the run.

Then use the pass to exploit one on one coverage.

Then the 2nd and 3rd down fade routes last game.

In the Giants game, it was obvious to anyone with a brain Tony was struggling.

Is it asking too much for Garrett to understand and take the ball out of his hands and give extra work to our running game which was dominant.

Ivy league educations are apparently vastly over-rated.

Heck, look at out current and previous presidents for further validation
He makes a foolish comment, I lampoon it, and I over reacted?

Whatever. His 2 straight passes comment was brilliant. :rolleyes:
 
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Hostile;2985373 said:
He makes a foolish comment, I lampoon it, and I over reacted?

Whatever. His 2 straight passes comment was brilliant. :rolleyes:

The last time I made 2 straight passes, I got slapped across the face
 
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Other than the strange goal line play calling, Garrett is doing just fine with an equal amount of passing and running attempts,,, keep 'em guessing, right? And the double tight end sets is probably forcing the opposing defense to change who is on the field, giving the blockers one less big-boy run-stopper to contend with,,,, that's a "win" for our running game so far.
 

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Hostile;2985103 said:
No good. According to the other poster you can't pass 2 times in a row and be a dominant run offense.

I think that was ridiculous, but what do I know?


Dude, seriously.....

The guy was talking about the specific goal line situation when the Cowboys tired to get the 1 yard by passing twice in a row.

Not about never passing twice in a row.

geesh.
 

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As much as I loved and respected Tom Landry, there were times over the years when he got too cute and tried to keep tricking people instead of just lining up and going right at them. I see the same symptoms only worse with Garret.
 

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Hostile;2985103 said:
No good. According to the other poster you can't pass 2 times in a row and be a dominant run offense.

I think that was ridiculous, but what do I know?

That is kind of a ridiculous statement. Of coarse every team passes it 2 times in a row. To do so on the 1 yard line late in the game when you have a 4 point lead and have been great at pounding it in from there the last few seasons is another thing.

Even Jerry Jones said he didnt mind the first fade pass to RW but questioned the second one at that point in the game.

I know you love Garrett, but to stick up for him when he is clearly wrong is a bit much. He got too cute and made a mistake, it happens, Im sure he will learn from it and get better.
 

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Doomsday;2985553 said:
That is kind of a ridiculous statement. Of coarse every team passes it 2 times in a row. To do so on the 1 yard line late in the game when you have a 4 point lead and have been great at pounding it in from there the last few seasons is another thing.

Even Jerry Jones said he didnt mind the first fade pass to RW but questioned the second one at that point in the game.

I know you love Garrett, but to stick up for him when he is clearly wrong is a bit much. He got too cute and made a mistake, it happens, Im sure he will learn from it and get better.

I dont think they got cute, they went for the better matchup. RW and Martellus both ended up on islands with smaller guys on them 1 on 1. The first one should have been a TD. The 2nd one looked like a combination of poor throw and route. They (Carolina) had 10 guys at the LOS/in the box for the run, and one guy to defend the WR (or TE in MB's case)

Personally I wish they'd scrap going to the short yardage formation on the GL. Just run a normal set and then run up the middle. It takes guys out of the box when you do that. I also think not having MBIII in there had something do to with the calls. Choice had already been stopped once inside the 1.
 

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dbair1967;2985556 said:
I dont think they got cute, they went for the better matchup. RW and Martellus both ended up on islands with smaller guys on them1 on 1. The first one should have been a TD. The 2nd one looked like a combination of poor throw and route. They (Carolina) had 10 guys at the LOS/in the box for the run, and one guy to defend the WR (or TE in MB's case)

Personally I wish they'd scrap going to the short yardage formation on the GL. Just run a normal set and then run up the middle. It takes guys out of the box when you do that. I also think not having MBIII in there had something do to with the calls. Choice had already been stopped once inside the 1.

I agree, there was nothing wrong with the calls, just the execution. Bennett didn't run the route correctly and Roy didn't come down with the ball plus Romo could have thrown it a bit higher.

Personally, I think Romo throws the fade better to his right than to his left, not sure why we went that way though.
 

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THUMPER;2985561 said:
I agree, there was nothing wrong with the calls, just the execution. Bennett didn't run the route correctly and Roy didn't come down with the ball plus Romo could have thrown it a bit higher.

Personally, I think Romo throws the fade better to his right than to his left, not sure why we went that way though.

I don't think Romo throws the fade well at all
 

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DaBoys4Life;2985563 said:
I don't think Romo throws the fade well at all
Right now he doesn't because he has never had weapons to throw it to. He is accurate as a passer and can learn it. They are probably trying to teach him how. All it takes is confidence.
 

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Hostile;2985038 said:
First of all let's be clear, it is just 3 weeks. It is highly unlikely this will continue at this pace and it would be a Ruthian jump to actually improve.

Right now, Dallas has carried the ball 85 times for 581 yards.

The 581 yards represents the most yardage gained on the ground in the NFL by 69 yards. Only 1 other team, New Orleans at 512 yards, is over 500 yards rushing. Dallas is 3 carries (at their current pace) from being over 600 yards on the season. The Saints have carried the ball 17 times more than Dallas and is still 69 yards behind.

Dallas is averaging 193.7 yards per game. If by some miracle Dallas kept up that pace they would finish with 3100 yards rushing for the season.

If Dallas only gained a measly 19 yards rushing this week against Denver they would still be averaging 150 yards per game. That would currently put them at 7th in the NFL, 1 yard per game behind Tennessee.

The 85 carries by Dallas is nowhere near the league lead of 106 carries by the Giants. If Dallas matched their current production and had 106 carries they would have 721 yards rushing. That would be 209 yards more than the next closest team.

721 yards in 3 games would equate to 240 yards per game average.

Dallas has no fumbles while carrying the ball so far this season.

Dallas is tied with 2 other teams for 2nd in the NFL with 5 rushing TDs this season. Only Jacksonville of those 4 teasm representing the top 2 in rushing TDs has fewer carries than the Cowboys. They trail by 6 carries. The other 2 teams tied with (Saints) or ahead of (Ravens) the Cowboys have 102 and 101 carries respectively.

Run the ball, and keep on running it.

Solari or Houck?
 
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