How important is OC Kellen Moore

[quickccc]

Everyone knows that I am a big fan of Kellen Moore as a quarterback, and so I hope to see him succeed as a coach. And he will.
But Mike McCarthy is the most important coach on the team. He must set the tempo and instill a philosophy that allows his coordinators and assistants to succeed.
No more of "Let's try this".

Oh yes I do recall that you have always been a big kellen Moore supporter where the player or coach

I do believe McCarthy kept Moore on as not only a continuation to dak but also some elements Kellen does and offers maybe an expansion to McCarthy's own offenses.. such as occasional RPOs, route designs, advance spread formations etc.

McCarthy could have easily led his familiar assistant coach Joe Philbin onto to the OC role as he was involved in the offense in green bay, but the aforementioned elements may have been a big reason Moore continues as OC.

Though I very much the feeling Mcarthy's philosophy and how he wants the offense managed will be a great deal differently to how Moore was handled under the simplistic conservative Garrett.

 

[khiladi]

Moore is a disciple of Linehan. Linehan took him from Detroit. Linehan wanted to start him, before Garrett and crew went and got Matt Cassell.

Moore is here, because Jerry isn’t changing the offense.

Garrett didn’t touch the offense. Jerry didn’t let him since 2014. And Garrett was technically never conservative as a play-caller. His offense was Coryell, long-developing pass routes and downfield. Garrett just sucked at it and couldn’t field a running game at all to save his life.

By 2012, his last officials year as play-caller, when Jerry started pulling the reigns, his offense was throwing over 60% of the time and Dallas was only second to Cardinals in least amount of run attempts and bottom of the barrel in red-zone scoring and play-action passing.

We actually started running the when Romo started gaining control and Linehan came, utilizing Callahan’s blocking scheme.

 

[quickccc]

Right. When Garrett became more involved with more at the end of the 2018 season what happened? Our passing was more effective. Garrett involved with helping the game plan in 2019, results were career years for Dak in yards and passing TD's. Maybe it was garretts influence and system that made Dak what he is today.

From what I had heard it was when Moore and mussenmeir became more involved, dak began to click a whole lot better..particularly those last 3 games of the year.
But Garrett is the overseer (by title?) credit does go thru him for bringing on both Moore and mussenmeir to his staff.
Which the two still remain as a part of new McCarthy coaching staff.

 

[MikeB80]

Not Very.

They hired McCarthy to win. McCarthy's whole coaching life is offense. He hired all the assistants he wanted that used to be with him, mostly on offense.

McCarthy will be in charge of the offense. I have zero idea why Kellen Moore was kept on this staff or why he is calling plays. It feels very much like a Jerry/Stephen thing. McCarthy was on record in GB saying you do not give up play calling and he gave it up right away when coming here.

So again to me Kellen Moore is not important at all.

 

[charron]

From what I had heard it was when Moore and mussenmeir became more involved, dak began to click a whole lot better..particularly those last 3 games of the year.
But Garrett is the overseer (by title?) credit does go thru him for bringing on both Moore and mussenmeir to his staff.
Which the two still remain as a part of new McCarthy coaching staff.

It was garrett, neussmeir, Moore who collectively took the job from linehan. How much was each involved I dont know but we saw the difference then and it continued into 2019. Garrett always listened to his staff, sometimes too much, so he likely allowed them alot of freedom to implement what they wanted while using most of the same concepts.

 

[OmerV]

Right. When Garrett became more involved with more at the end of the 2018 season what happened? Our passing was more effective. Garrett involved with helping the game plan in 2019, results were career years for Dak in yards and passing TD's. Maybe it was garretts influence and system that made Dak what he is today.

You were complaining about the play calling in one post, and in this one are pumping it up as leading to a career year for Dak?

 

[Ranching]

Sorry?

You want my replies to be longer?



Say it ain't true, Holmes.

Call me John.....

 

[Redball Express]

Call me John.....

John..

Much more personal.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hope he gets better at calling the plays.

Duh...………...I hope he gets better at it.

 

[charron]

You were complaining about the play calling in one post, and in this one are pumping it up as leading to a career year for Dak?

Yea i can do both. FYI- Dak had career stats in an 8-8 year. The 2 games that immediately question the play calling are the buffalo and patriots games with Moore not adjusting his play calling to what was working being as big part of our losing those games. That doesn't mean he sucks just if MM can help guide him better when things get tough maybe we win those types of games.

 

[OmerV]

Yea i can do both. FYI- Dak had career stats in an 8-8 year. The 2 games that immediately question the play calling are the buffalo and patriots games with Moore not adjusting his play calling to what was working being as big part of our losing those games. That doesn't mean he sucks just if MM can help guide him better when things get tough maybe we win those types of games.

I had a bigger problem with the play calling in the Saints game. After 3 weeks of a hugely successful offense they went ultra conservative in that game. My guess is that with Brees out Garrett decided the only way they would lose to the Saints is if they made a lot of mistakes, so he dictated that the game plan would be conservative to avoid mistakes. The problem was that it also avoided scoring by taking the team out of the offensive rhythm it was in.

 

[Bullflop]

The most important coach will always be the HC.

I believe the correct name is Mike McCarthy!

 

[Doomsday101]

As OC clearly he is very important. I think he did a good job as a 1st year OC and I fully expect him to take the experience from year 1 and expand on it. I think McCarthy brings a more aggressive style to the table and feel Moore will benefit from this as well. I look forward to seeing him grow as an OC and this offense become one of the best in the NFL.

 

[GMO415]

Moore will have to implement MM's offense. Lets not overthink this. Moore's offense is a baby compared to MM's WCO.

 

[Whirlwin]

He's very important as he is the next scapegoat in a long line of coaches who preceded him and we're blamed when we kicked Field goal after field goal.....

And why do you think we kick so many field goals. Forget it I already know why LOL at least you’re consistent my cowboy brother I respect that

 

[PAPPYDOG]

And why do you think we kick so many field goals. Forget it I already know why LOL at least you’re consistent my cowboy brother I respect that

Ask the player who wants 35+ million a year for 4 years.....jeez he's only the QB like saying kick returner why should he be held responsible for our scoring woes????

 

[khiladi]

I had a bigger problem with the play calling in the Saints game. After 3 weeks of a hugely successful offense they went ultra conservative in that game. My guess is that with Brees out Garrett decided the only way they would lose to the Saints is if they made a lot of mistakes, so he dictated that the game plan would be conservative to avoid mistakes. The problem was that it also avoided scoring by taking the team out of the offensive rhythm it was in.

Probably had more to do with the Saints defense and their disguising coverages...

https://footballfilmroom.com/2019/10/03/saints-defense-stops-cowboys/

Despite Dak Prescott’s great start to the season, the Cowboys Offense is still based off of their running game. Take that away, and everything else becomes exceedingly more difficult.

 

[OmerV]

the biggest growth I want to see in this offense is KM using Pollard and Zeke HEAVILY in the pass game.. ridiculous we have those weapons' just sitting there idle in gams where we were within 10points and post with lack of scoring etc..

when you no longer have a HOF stud at TE you need the RBS in the pass game to make up for it and we have TWO Rbs that are weapons in pass game..unfired bullets in a lost war is a good reason we were 8-8 last season..

I'm not sure what you call heavily, but for me the key is to use them strategically in the passing game. There will only be so many balls to go around, and Cooper, Gallup and Lamb will likely get the majority of the targets, so there will be limits on just how heavy the usage can be for other players.

 

[Redball Express]

He's very important as he is the next scapegoat in a long line of coaches who preceded him and we're blamed when we kicked Field goal after field goal.....

That tongue-in-cheek stuff..

very becoming Dog breathe.

Think I am going to steal that.

No wait..no wait..

my HAL 2000 computer says..

"You have already stolen and used that, Dave"

My computer thinks my name is Dave. Cute ain't he?

But he is never wrong.

Except on that Mission to Jupiter in 2001:A Space Odyssey.

He ate the big Weiner.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm not sure what you call heavily, but for me the key is to use them strategically in the passing game. There will only be so many balls to go around, and Cooper, Gallup and Lamb will likely get the majority of the targets, so there will be limits on just how heavy the usage can be for other players.

a lot more often then the past targets..our RBs can be dangerous in the pass game and have been underutilized , when you see other Rbs being used like Cooks, Kamamra, and CM and praised because of their versality , yet zeke is every but the weapon and not used so now hes being downgraded by fans and that ridiculous..add Pollard now and we have been leaving many missed opportunity's on the field..