How many Cowboys are in the top 5 in the game at their position?

[Baileyneverfailey]

Obviously it's impossible for fans of a team to be fully objective, but these are the guys I believe are one of the top 5 best players at their position, in all of Football.

QB: Tony Romo - This one is questionable if only because the level of QB talent in the game right now is obscene, but there aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him.

WR: Miles Austin - One season does not a career make, but the numbers don't lie.

TE: Jason Witten - No explanation required.

DT: Jay Ratliff - No explanation required.

OLB: Demarcus Ware - No explanation required.

CB: Mike Jenkins - There aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him. I'm not sure after what he's shown this year that there is a single guy I'd rather have at this position.

S: Gerald Sensabaugh - I know the stats don't point to any kind of dominance from Sensabaugh at the safety position, but I don't think it's a coincidence that his arrival marked the first time in years we basically haven't even had to think about getting beaten deep, and we suddenly started being able to blitz and play man outside more. Not a lot of picks, but that is probably due to the fact that teams couldn't throw it downfield on us, and he had a cast on that cost him a couple.

Other guys who I want to put on here but won't because I feel my homer goggles are influencing the decision and I don't know enough young O-Linemen across the league to judge them - Flozell, Gurode, Davis.

My point is, I just think this team is flat out more talented than most teams out there, and more importantly, unlike the 'super talented' 2007 team, they're playing as a team and we're seeing the results.

I'd love to hear some thoughts about other guys you fellow zoners feel are top 5 guys, or if you disagree with any of my picks.

 

[zrinkill]

Romo
Witten
Ware
Rat

Those who are close

Jenkins
Austin

 

[Khartun]

Romo
Witten
Ware
Rat

Those who are close

Jenkins
Austin

agreed plus McBriar.

 

[zrinkill]

agreed plus McBriar.

Yea ..... I always forget about the kickers.

 

[JBell]

Obviously it's impossible for fans of a team to be fully objective, but these are the guys I believe are one of the top 5 best players at their position, in all of Football.

QB: Tony Romo - This one is questionable if only because the level of QB talent in the game right now is obscene, but there aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him.

WR: Miles Austin - One season does not a career make, but the numbers don't lie.

TE: Jason Witten - No explanation required.

DT: Jay Ratliff - No explanation required.

OLB: Demarcus Ware - No explanation required.

CB: Mike Jenkins - There aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him. I'm not sure after what he's shown this year that there is a single guy I'd rather have at this position.

S: Gerald Sensabaugh - I know the stats don't point to any kind of dominance from Sensabaugh at the safety position, but I don't think it's a coincidence that his arrival marked the first time in years we basically haven't even had to think about getting beaten deep, and we suddenly started being able to blitz and play man outside more. Not a lot of picks, but that is probably due to the fact that teams couldn't throw it downfield on us, and he had a cast on that cost him a couple.

Other guys who I want to put on here but won't because I feel my homer goggles are influencing the decision and I don't know enough young O-Linemen across the league to judge them - Flozell, Gurode, Davis.

My point is, I just think this team is flat out more talented than most teams out there, and more importantly, unlike the 'super talented' 2007 team, they're playing as a team and we're seeing the results.

I'd love to hear some thoughts about other guys you fellow zoners feel are top 5 guys, or if you disagree with any of my picks.

I disagree on Sensabaugh.

Just off the top of my dome:

Polamalu
Edward Reed
Adrian Wilson
Nick Collins
Merriweather
Jairus Byrd
Otogwe
Sanders

...are all better.

But Sensabaugh has killed it this season. He's definitely a must-sign in the off-season.

And Andre Gurode is a top 5 center. The guy is dominant at times.

When's the last time he's had a bad snap (knocks on wood)? We know what 'Dre was working on this past off-season.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Obviously it's impossible for fans of a team to be fully objective, but these are the guys I believe are one of the top 5 best players at their position, in all of Football.

QB: Tony Romo - This one is questionable if only because the level of QB talent in the game right now is obscene, but there aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him.

lets think....Manning, Rivers, Brees, Brady, warner, rodgers are the ones that come to mind. there is arguments to be made. for some reason romo has to prove more than brees or rivers or rodgers, which I don't understand.

WR: Miles Austin - One season does not a career make, but the numbers don't lie.

Fitzgerald, johnson, wayne, marshall, welker, rice, jackson, smith, but I think Austin is just a notch below the first 3 and arguments can be made against all the others.

TE: Jason Witten - No explanation required.

no arguments. probably the best combination of recieving and blocking.

DT: Jay Ratliff - No explanation required.

agree, right now he is playing lights out.

OLB: Demarcus Ware - No explanation required.

probably the number one guy.

CB: Mike Jenkins - There aren't 5 other guys I'd take over him. I'm not sure after what he's shown this year that there is a single guy I'd rather have at this position.

hmmm, interesting argument. Revis, Baily, Woodson, ashamouga, leon hall, cromartie...but other than woodson and revis, jenkins is right there with the rest.

S: Gerald Sensabaugh - I know the stats don't point to any kind of dominance from Sensabaugh at the safety position, but I don't think it's a coincidence that his arrival marked the first time in years we basically haven't even had to think about getting beaten deep, and we suddenly started being able to blitz and play man outside more. Not a lot of picks, but that is probably due to the fact that teams couldn't throw it downfield on us, and he had a cast on that cost him a couple.

he may have complemented the rest of the defense to allow them do what they do best, but he is not a difference maker like sharper, wilson, dawkins, reed, or polamalu. he is second tier type


Other guys who I want to put on here but won't because I feel my homer goggles are influencing the decision and I don't know enough young O-Linemen across the league to judge them - Flozell, Gurode, Davis.

I would put davis and groude on there. but not adams.

My point is, I just think this team is flat out more talented than most teams out there, and more importantly, unlike the 'super talented' 2007 team, they're playing as a team and we're seeing the results.

I'd love to hear some thoughts about other guys you fellow zoners feel are top 5 guys, or if you disagree with any of my picks.

I agree with most of your points. see responses in red

 

[Mexicanmarauder]

Top 5...wow

I think only Witten, Ratliff, Ware are top 5 players to be honest. Maybe Romo squeaks in there if he continues to play at this level but I can't make a case for anyone else.

 

[Number82]

Top 5 at their position:
QB- T. Romo -- Maybe I'm just a homer, but other than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, there's no current QB I'd take over Romo.
TE- J. Witten -- The best at his position.
LT- F. Adams -- Everyone gives him crap, myself included, for his false starts and unnecessary penalties, but you'd have a hard time finding 5 better OTs.
DT- J. Ratliff -- If he's not the best than he's 1b.
OLB- D. Ware -- The best at his position.

Top 10 at their position:
WR- M. Austin
CB- M. Jenkins
-- One year doesn't make either of these guys top 5, but I think they'll be top 5 soon and for a long time.

 

[casmith07]

I love how Roethlisberger was Elite to almost all on this board 3 months ago, and now he's not even mentioned among the top QBs in the NFL.

 

[jterrell]

All IMHO.

Ware #1 pass rusher without question
Ratliff #1 (3-4 NT)without question
Witten #1 though there could be debate

Romo 5-8 --- Warner is NOT better than him. One game doesn't surpass a season of work. Manning, Rivers, Brees, Favre were better this year. Brady wasn't but I wouldn't scream if folks still rated Brady higher. By the same token Brees/Favre have to win at least one playoff game this year or their stock plummets below Romo who would have beaten both head to head and had more playoff success thus year in that case.

Mike Jenkins probably 5-9: He can still be beaten so he isn't Revis and he hasn't had the previous seasons of a Nnamdi but he surpasses Corey Webster who killed it last year but was pedestrian this year. He was better than any Philly Cb when they matched up head to head 3x.

Austin top 5**: I was dogging this guy as an average Joe this time last year so I am not just being a homer. He can run all the routes and can break tackles OR run away from you. He's both a very scary deep threat and a guy who can run across the middle. He can run bubble screens or outs. He comes back to the ball. His hands aren't flawless but they make many world-class WRs hands look bad i.e. T.O., Calvin Johnson, Braylon Edwards....

Gurode top 5: Gurode is not a good line caller or a good blitz recognition guy but if he knows he needs to block you, consider yourself blocked. There isn't a single Center I'd rather have facing the Williams boys this weekend. If Gurode isn't the most powerful Center in the game I'd hate to see who is.

Flo: Top 10 yea, yea, yea. He gets penalties and gets owned about 2 games a year by a speed rusher. But that means 14 other games he protects Tony's backside without help and also mauls people in the run game. He basically bent over Trent Cole 2 straight weeks and Cole is the exact type guy who gives Flo troubles.

RW11: top 50
Sensa: top 20
Hamlin top 30
Davis top 10
Kozier top 40
Columbo top 20
Bradie: top 15
Brookings: top 15
Spencer: top 10 ---another guy I dogged as average or spare.... mea culpa mr. spencer sir.
TNew: top 20

 

[DIAF]

Ware, Ratliff, and Witten are the only sure-fire locks. The rest are debatable. Especially Miles Austin. Lots of great receivers in the league right now.

 

[utrunner07]

FLOZELL IS UNARGUABLY TOP 10, ARGUABLY ToP 5.

Put that in 3" headlines!

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I know his results are impacted by the overall improvement in special teams but going by the numbers, Crayton has a really good argument to be considered a top 5 punt returner.

 

[mmillman]

homer

 

[RainMan]

Gurode -- I think he came in second in all-pro voting.

 

[Dodger]

Top 5 in the NFL?

Witten
Ware
Ratliff
McBriar


Sorry, but that's it.

 

[RainMan]

FLOZELL IS UNARGUABLY TOP 10, ARGUABLY ToP 5.

Put that in 3" headlines!

Know what's funny? I was looking last week and, at least prior to the latest roster update, Madden has Flo ranked as the league's 23rd or 24th best left tackle (he's rated an 83). I know, I know. Cue the "This ain't Madden" pictures. I just think it epitomizes how underrated he's become.

 

[RainMan]

Top 5 in the NFL?

Witten
Ware
Ratliff
McBriar


Sorry, but that's it.

I'm really surprised Gurode isn't making more people's lists. He's made a ton of consecutive Pro Bowls and was the second-highest vote getter for the All-Pro team if I'm not mistaken.

Other than that, I agree with your list.

I'd argue that Austin, Romo and Jenkins are all on the cusp of breaking into this elite group. Spencer might not be far off, either.

Statistically, Austin is a top-five receiver this year, but he simply doesn't have the longevity to back it up. I think you could make an argument Romo sits around seventh or eighth right now -- Manning, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Favre, Rodgers and Warner are the only guys I'd consider definitively above Romo or, in some cases, on his level. And Jenkins and Spencer are downright dominant forces, they just need to keep it up another season or two to garner widespread notoriety.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Top 5 in the NFL?

Witten
Ware
Ratliff
McBriar


Sorry, but that's it.

Numbers don't lie, and for this regular season, only Andre Johnson had a better year than Miles. He's going to be top 5. And give me 5 QBs that you'd take over Romo. Peyton Manning is the only guy I'd take over him, and I probably wouldn't even do that just because I'm a homer and I love Romo's attitude.

 

[Clove]

I'd Put Romo up there based on his offensive pass protection.

I personally think that he has the worst pass protection of all the "so called" greats.

When things break down for those "other great" Quarterbacks, it's lights out for them. When they have pressure in their face, they are done.

Not the case for guys like John ElWay, Roger the Dodger, Montana. These guys didn't always put up the marvelous numbers as some others, but they could kill you whether they had a clean pocket or running for their lives.

This is why I consider Romo a top 1 or 2 QB in this league right now. Now wait until next year when Ogletree breaks out.