How many DL?

[xwalker]

Best to turn those picks into higher picks. Either buy extra picks or move up in a round. I wouldn't expect them to draft more than 7 or 8 players. They can do better with targeted UDFAs generally than they can picking at the bottom of the barrel although you can find gems in there.

My guess is we will end up with 5-7 players in the first six rounds. They will use up 4-6 picks moving around and possibly move some into next year if possible. There's only so much rookie money to play with. I'd expect 5-6 draft picks to make the roster and 1-2 UDFAs.

If you're referring to the rookie wage pool, that is determined based on the picks that the team owns. The fact that the Cowboys have 11 picks in part of the calculation of that number. The more picks they have the bigger pool they have to work with.

If you're referring to the salary cap, generally 5th round and later picks that make the team actually save money against the cap because they are less expensive than any 2nd year players.

 

[jobberone]

If you're referring to the rookie wage pool, that is determined based on the picks that the team owns. The fact that the Cowboys have 11 picks in part of the calculation of that number. The more picks they have the bigger pool they have to work with.

If you're referring to the salary cap, generally 5th round and later picks that make the team actually save money against the cap because they are less expensive than any 2nd year players.

Here's the salary cap estimates for 2014:

Initial 2014 NFL Rookie Pool Estimates

With the 2014 salary cap season less than a month away one of the big questions I get in regards to salary cap space is how much set aside do teams need for their rookies. So here are my first estimates for money that will be spent on rookies in 2014, under the assumption that the Ravens win the coin toss against the Cowboys. Currently there are no compensatory picks awarded or included in these estimates, but the estimates do include trades made over the last year

The chart gives four categories to view. The Year One Pool is the cap allocation given to the team in 2014. The Cap Space Required column shows you how much cap space a team needs to set aside for rookies assuming that the team has 51 players under contract and all bottom players count for $420,000 against the salary cap.These numbers are not accurate for the Dolphins, Ravens, and Bears, each of whom has less than 51 contracted players so they will require more cap room to sign their rookies than the cap space listed. .

Signing bonus allocations are the immediate cash that a team will likely need to use to sign their rookies. The total cap estimate is what it will cost the team in cap dollars to keep the players for four years not including the “proven performance escalator” that is available for rookies selected in rounds 3-7.

As of now the team that looks to have the largest rookie pool will be the Cleveland Browns with $9.6 million in expected charges. They are closely followed by the Rams whose rookie class should count for $9.48 million. The Rams will require the most cap space of any team in the NFL with $5.7 million in cap room being required to actually sign their rookies. The team with the most selections is the 49ers with 11 followed by the Browns and Jaguars with 10 each.

Because they traded their first round draft pick the Colts look to have the smallest pool for rookies at $2.549 million. Those five picks will only require $450,000 in cap room to be signed. The Ravens have the least amount of draft picks with 4, while the Colts and Buccaneers have 5.

I’ll link the charts on the right side features menu as a permanent feature through the summer. You can view either pick by pick for the entire draft or team breakdowns, like in the chart below. Clicking on a team in the chart will take you to that teams individual draft pick estimates.

http://overthecap.com/initial-nfl-rookie-pool-estimates/

 

[jobberone]

And yes some of the rookies over the life of a 4 year contract will save the club some money.

 

[xwalker]

They need one to two LBs. They need 2-4 DL with at least one DE. They need one decent prospect at CB and I'd say better than that. You can't win without pass defense just as you certainly can't without pressure. Add in a safety if a decent one falls to us. That's 6 picks. And nothing on offense which needs a #2 WR which is most likely coming in the first three rounds. Add in an interior guard, RB, and maybe OT and you get the picture. You can't fill all the holes. Someone will unexpectedly show up somewhere you need someone and someone will falter or get injured who you were depending on.

Here's the salary cap estimates for 2014:

Initial 2014 NFL Rookie Pool Estimates

With the 2014 salary cap season less than a month away one of the big questions I get in regards to salary cap space is how much set aside do teams need for their rookies. So here are my first estimates for money that will be spent on rookies in 2014, under the assumption that the Ravens win the coin toss against the Cowboys. Currently there are no compensatory picks awarded or included in these estimates, but the estimates do include trades made over the last year

The chart gives four categories to view. The Year One Pool is the cap allocation given to the team in 2014. The Cap Space Required column shows you how much cap space a team needs to set aside for rookies assuming that the team has 51 players under contract and all bottom players count for $420,000 against the salary cap.These numbers are not accurate for the Dolphins, Ravens, and Bears, each of whom has less than 51 contracted players so they will require more cap room to sign their rookies than the cap space listed. .

Signing bonus allocations are the immediate cash that a team will likely need to use to sign their rookies. The total cap estimate is what it will cost the team in cap dollars to keep the players for four years not including the “proven performance escalator” that is available for rookies selected in rounds 3-7.

As of now the team that looks to have the largest rookie pool will be the Cleveland Browns with $9.6 million in expected charges. They are closely followed by the Rams whose rookie class should count for $9.48 million. The Rams will require the most cap space of any team in the NFL with $5.7 million in cap room being required to actually sign their rookies. The team with the most selections is the 49ers with 11 followed by the Browns and Jaguars with 10 each.

Because they traded their first round draft pick the Colts look to have the smallest pool for rookies at $2.549 million. Those five picks will only require $450,000 in cap room to be signed. The Ravens have the least amount of draft picks with 4, while the Colts and Buccaneers have 5.

I’ll link the charts on the right side features menu as a permanent feature through the summer. You can view either pick by pick for the entire draft or team breakdowns, like in the chart below. Clicking on a team in the chart will take you to that teams individual draft pick estimates.

http://overthecap.com/initial-nfl-rookie-pool-estimates/

Here are the cap hits for the players drafted at the same positions of the draft picks the Cowboys own in 2014:

16 1,615,509
47 781,891
78 554,719
119 394,301
158 449,633
229 405,000
231 405,000
238 405,000
248 405,000
251 405,000
254 405,000

The total is 6,226,053.

The Cowboys rookie pool allocation is $6,809,286.

Assuming inflation from 2013, the 2014 equivalent of the 6,226,053 number should still be at or below the 6,809,286 limit.

 

[xwalker]

And yes some of the rookies over the life of a 4 year contract will save the club some money.

2012 Sixth round pick Hanna's 2nd year salary was 480k.

2013 Sixth round pick Holloman's 1st year salary was 405k.

Therefore, in that scenario, a late round rookie would have saved 75k if he bumped off a minimum wage 2nd year player.

If the late round rookie bumps a more expensive player then the savings is more. Ernie Sims made 840k in 2013. If Holloman had bumped him off the roster it would have saved 435k.

 

[waving monkey]

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[jobberone]

2012 Sixth round pick Hanna's 2nd year salary was 480k.

2013 Sixth round pick Holloman's 1st year salary was 405k.

Therefore, in that scenario, a late round rookie would have saved 75k if he bumped off a minimum wage 2nd year player.

If the late round rookie bumps a more expensive player then the savings is more. Ernie Sims made 840k in 2013. If Holloman had bumped him off the roster it would have saved 435k.

Yes most of the time the rule of 51 will be in affect for those players. There are still three parts to it and most people talk about the first year or part.

 

[waving monkey]

if your not making a habit of it sometimes need trumps value.
I think this year that's the case. we can't get caught short on the DL
in the Tampa 2