How many WRs will we keep on 53 roster?

[Stash]

We'll see who makes the team......

Again, that wasn't the point. I was simply questioning your rationale for calling a guy with 9 receptions in two years of his NFL career a "damn good possession receiver".

BTW...I said damn good "possession" receiver. I have no problem with you disagreeing at all. Let's move on....

OK.

 

[Whirlwin]

i'v been back and forth with Tavon Austin as I don't trust his durability and he has average hands as a receiver/punt returner, imo.
but if you saw a glimpse of the Seattle playoff game where he was huge in busting punt return plays wide open (one TD negated) and remember the huge kickoff run back
vs Cowboys in '17, and I still think they like him as a return, spot WR and gimmick guy to add to the roster.
and he's more experienced as a punt returner than Pollard is at the early stage. (pollard only 2 career punt returns)
Plus the emphasis still seems big on having even more speedy, big play guys.

I have no problem keeping him as a sixth receiver just for special teams. I just called him a special team specialist.

 

[Whirlwin]

Again, that wasn't the point. I was simply questioning your rationale for calling a guy with 9 receptions in two years of his NFL career a "damn good possession receiver".



OK.

I am thinking, by the time it's all said and done. We know we have Cooper gallop and Cobb. I expect everything else to fluctuate.

 

[MonsterD]

I believe it will be 6.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Now that Allen Hurns is off the team, how many WRs will we keep on the 53 roster ?
who benefits the most from Hurns departure ?

Me, I'm predicting SIX wide outs and the final WR unit to be like this :

WR (6)

1 cooper

2 gallup

3 cobb

4 wilson

5 JV Johnson

6) Austin

I don't think Austin makes the cut. Pollard can serve the same role for jet sweeps. Cobb is a better slot WR. pollard can return kicks. there is no upside to keeping Austin. he is not very good from the slot. he is not very good on the outside and his tricks are dego routes with his speed and jet sweeps at this point....I would rather keep Brown or another young WR for development. Brown, though not a great WR, given his blocking ability can be a hybrid TE/WR depending on the match ups. Given Moore's penchant to create mismatches and moving players around presnap, Brown can be moved to see if they will cover him with a TE or if they cover him with a CB/Saftey, and adjust the play call accordingly pre-snap....I am not saying this would be bread and butter, but plays in the play book that we can use and force defenses....

 

[Stash]

I am thinking, by the time it's all said and done. We know we have Cooper gallop and Cobb. I expect everything else to fluctuate.

I'd agree, there's a lot up for grabs after those three.

 

[Stash]

I don't think Austin makes the cut. Pollard can serve the same role for jet sweeps. Cobb is a better slot WR. pollard can return kicks. there is no upside to keeping Austin. he is not very good from the slot. he is not very good on the outside and his tricks are dego routes with his speed and jet sweeps at this point....I would rather keep Brown or another young WR for development. Brown, though not a great WR, given his blocking ability can be a hybrid TE/WR depending on the match ups. Given Moore's penchant to create mismatches and moving players around presnap, Brown can be moved to see if they will cover him with a TE or if they cover him with a CB/Saftey, and adjust the play call accordingly pre-snap....I am not saying this would be bread and butter, but plays in the play book that we can use and force defenses....

Or more of the same "flashing light" to defenses that says "Noah Brown's in the game, they're running the ball!"

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Or more of the same "flashing light" to defenses that says "Noah Brown's in the game, they're running the ball!"

but I think that was Linehan flashing the play on almost every play....Brown can be a mismatch against LBs...we really didn't explore that except once in Seattle game and if the ref's didn't miss the obvious interference call, it would have been a big play.....but match him up against CB/safety, if he is moving across the line...he can block them all day...at that point, you can flash and they can know all they want...brown can block them easily and comes down to execution..

really not a big deal. I just don't think Austin brings much to the table that we can't already do with other players.

 

[Stash]

but I think that was Linehan flashing the play on almost every play....Brown can be a mismatch against LBs...we really didn't explore that except once in Seattle game and if the ref's didn't miss the obvious interference call, it would have been a big play.....but match him up against CB/safety, if he is moving across the line...he can block them all day...at that point, you can flash and they can know all they want...brown can block them easily and comes down to execution..

really not a big deal. I just don't think Austin brings much to the table that we can't already do with other players.

I'll definitely agree with you on Linehan's predictable tendencies and lack of creativity. But I would also include his lack of use of Austin in there.

Austin had career highs last year with the few times Linehan actually used him, and I don't think his abilities are easily replaced, especially by a rookie who hasn't taken a snap yet. And specifically, I see no punt returner of his ability on this roster.

Unless he gets hurt, I'm keeping him.

 

[quickccc]

I don't think Austin makes the cut. Pollard can serve the same role for jet sweeps. Cobb is a better slot WR. pollard can return kicks. there is no upside to keeping Austin. he is not very good from the slot. he is not very good on the outside and his tricks are dego routes with his speed and jet sweeps at this point....I would rather keep Brown or another young WR for development. Brown, though not a great WR, given his blocking ability can be a hybrid TE/WR depending on the match ups. Given Moore's penchant to create mismatches and moving players around presnap, Brown can be moved to see if they will cover him with a TE or if they cover him with a CB/Saftey, and adjust the play call accordingly pre-snap....I am not saying this would be bread and butter, but plays in the play book that we can use and force defenses....

and as I made mentioned in a discussion in a different thread, since we would already be moving Pollard around in various formations, spots and packages, and we'd be using him in jet sweeps and flexing him backfield, decoys, etc. and RBs are asked to block on occasions, so he should be dependable enough in that capacity, .. why not have Pollard be your Noah Brown ?
and that saves a game day active role and a roster spot, and again it doesn't help that Noah is still so underdeveloped and limited as a receiver, so teams can easily beam in on him.

With Pollard constantly in the game and doing his motion- move around work with gimmicks, passing plays in slots, jets sweeps as well in RPO run plays, he would be a much harder target to predict what we will be doing than when Noah Brown enters the game.

 

[quickccc]

but I think that was Linehan flashing the play on almost every play....Brown can be a mismatch against LBs...we really didn't explore that except once in Seattle game and if the ref's didn't miss the obvious interference call, it would have been a big play.....but match him up against CB/safety, if he is moving across the line...he can block them all day...at that point, you can flash and they can know all they want...brown can block them easily and comes down to execution..

really not a big deal. I just don't think Austin brings much to the table that we can't already do with other players.

..and now 4.37 Pollard can be that mismatch vs LBs. and safeties.
Just like TWill, that's all fine and good with the blocking dirty work but as a wide receiver I need to see more of you separating from CBs and getting big chunk yards and challenging the entire field and getting vertically downfield, instead around the line.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I'll definitely agree with you on Linehan's predictable tendencies and lack of creativity. But I would also include his lack of use of Austin in there.

Austin had career highs last year with the few times Linehan actually used him, and I don't think his abilities are easily replaced, especially by a rookie who hasn't taken a snap yet. And specifically, I see no punt returner of his ability on this roster.

Unless he gets hurt, I'm keeping him.

what's his cap hit?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

and as I made mentioned in a discussion in a different thread, since we would already be moving Pollard around in various formations, spots and packages, and we'd be using him in jet sweeps and flexing him backfield, decoys, etc. and RBs are asked to block on occasions, so he should be dependable enough in that capacity, .. why not have Pollard be your Noah Brown ?
and that saves a game day active role and a roster spot, and again it doesn't help that Noah is still so underdeveloped and limited as a receiver, so teams can easily beam in on him.

With Pollard constantly in the game and doing his motion- move around work with gimmicks, passing plays in slots, jets sweeps as well in RPO run plays, he would be a much harder target to predict what we will be doing than when Noah Brown enters the game.

I don't there is a wrong way between Austin, brown. they will both have limited role

 

[quickccc]

what's his cap hit?

Austin's team cap hit is 1.3 million
His 1 year contract here is just 1.7 million

 

[Stash]

what's his cap hit?

I think it’s only like $1.5 million.

 

[408Cowboy]

Eleventy.

I was thinking twhundred

 

[Mr_437]

Cooper
Cobb
Gallup
Wilson Jr.
Brown
Johnson

PS: Davis n Guyton

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

I say 4 WRs, and 4 TEs .

Classic .

 

[BourbonBalz]

I think the number of receivers they keep depends on how many DL they keep. There’s going to be some tough decisions that have to be made. Where do we go long? If I had to guess, I’d say we keep enough DL that limits us to five receivers.

 

[lkelly]

Brown can be moved to see if they will cover him with a TE or if they cover him with a CB/Saftey...

This I can agree with. Teams can definitely cover Brown with a TE. Probably not a guard though. He’d be a mismatch there.