How many WR's?

[fortdick]

If we were to pick up someone like Roy W. from Detriot in a trade, would WR still be a high priority for THIS YEAR'S draft? Possibly, we could wait a year or two to start looking for TO's replacement.

Jerry has to see what Stanback can do. There is still Crayton as a number three, and Hurd. I think Austin is out. If we find soemone to replace Glenn and give TO a three year extension, IMHO, WR would slip as a priority in the draft. That is unless a bluechip receiver dropped to us at #22.

I think we should get a legit #2 receiver in a trade of via FA and then concentrate on finding quality CB's, a back up RB and OL depth. I say OL because I really don't know if Free, Marten, or McQ can fill in for Flo. Proctor isn't going to dominate at either C or G.

I think our weak links are the secondary and #2 WR. It is a crap shoot hoping to find a starting WR in the draft.

JMO.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

If we got Roy Williams in a trade then, no, WR is no longer a priority of any kind. Roy is a mere 25 or 26 years old by the time this season ends (That being the 08 season) so you'd already have your #1 replacement, for Owens, in the fold. We could wait a few years to worry about WR then and see what Stanback brings to the table or draft WR's later in the round.

A trade for Roy would allow us to focus more on the secondary help we're in bad need of.

 

[dannyboy]

If we were to pick up someone like Roy W. from Detriot in a trade, would WR still be a high priority for THIS YEAR'S draft? Possibly, we could wait a year or two to start looking for TO's replacement.

Jerry has to see what Stanback can do. There is still Crayton as a number three, and Hurd. I think Austin is out. If we find soemone to replace Glenn and give TO a three year extension, IMHO, WR would slip as a priority in the draft. That is unless a bluechip receiver dropped to us at #22.

I think we should get a legit #2 receiver in a trade of via FA and then concentrate on finding quality CB's, a back up RB and OL depth. I say OL because I really don't know if Free, Marten, or McQ can fill in for Flo. Proctor isn't going to dominate at either C or G.

I think our weak links are the secondary and #2 WR. It is a crap shoot hoping to find a starting WR in the draft.

JMO.

If we get RW at WR, then are main focus should be CB, RB, CB at this time. We s. Should look at backup RB to replace Thompson and can be a returner(Alridge-Hou) as well as backup OL and LB. Maybe look for a Speed receiver next year and see what Stanback can do

 

[Doomsday101]

If Dallas were to pick up a FA WR then it would allow more options but would not rule out drafting a WR should one of the top WR fall to our spot in the draft.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ahhh the Thompson thing isn't as big a need though. We have guys on our practice squad who could take his place or you could look at the UDFA's for that. No need to waste a pick on a 3rd back.

Plus while Stanback continues to try and improve at WR he could already be out KR guy. He showed some promise in Philly (The first game with them) this year when he got to return kicks in his only actual action of the season.

 

[fortdick]

If we get RW at WR, then are main focus should be CB, RB, CB at this time. We s. Should look at backup RB to replace Thompson and can be a returner(Alridge-Hou) as well as backup OL and LB. Maybe look for a Speed receiver next year and see what Stanback can do

I read about Chris Johnson from ECU in another thread. This guy sound perfect for a change of pace RB. He also returns kicks. And as a projected 2nd round pick he could be the guy to go after. We could even get him with our 1st round pick if need be, letting us take CB with the Brown's pick. If JJ leaves, then RB becomes a huge priority and a 1st would not be out of the quesitons for a guy like this.

Reading that thread put me on the Chris Johnson bandwagon.

 

[dannyboy]

Ahhh the Thompson thing isn't as big a need though. We have guys on our practice squad who could take his place or you could look at the UDFA's for that. No need to waste a pick on a 3rd back.

Plus while Stanback continues to try and improve at WR he could already be out KR guy. He showed some promise in Philly (The first game with them) this year when he got to return kicks in his only actual action of the season.

good point

 

[Alexander]

I would approach this draft with this in mind:

1) Glenn is finished. That's one starter.

2) Owens could easily be gone within two seasons. Possibly as soon as 2009. That is another starter.

3) Crayton is a third WR not a starter. And if his performance against the Giants is what we can expect from him in big games, we made a mistake signing him long term and he needs to step up. That's one backup.

4) Stanback is nowhere near being ready to do more than function as a developmental player at this stage. This season was a washout.

5) Hurd and Austin are not future options as starters. I sincerely hope we don't have designs on them as such.

Within three seasons we could easily have 100% turnover at the position in terms of starters.

Outside of Roy Williams, there will not be the opportunity to add a starting talent in free agency. We will need to get young talent developed and soon. If we do not address it with at least one player capable of pushing our reserves, we will regret it very soon.

 

[ZeroClub]

I would approach this draft with this in mind:

1) Glenn is finished. That's one starter.

2) Owens could easily be gone within two seasons. Possibly as soon as 2009. That is another starter.

3) Crayton is a third WR not a starter. And if his performance against the Giants is what we can expect from him in big games, we made a mistake signing him long term and he needs to step up. That's one backup.

4) Stanback is nowhere near being ready to do more than function as a developmental player at this stage. This season was a washout.

5) Hurd and Austin are not future options as starters. I sincerely hope we don't have designs on them as such.

Within three seasons we could easily have 100% turnover at the position in terms of starters.

Outside of Roy Williams, there will not be the opportunity to add a starting talent in free agency. We will need to get young talent developed and soon. If we do not address it with at least one player capable of pushing our reserves, we will regret it very soon.

 

[DawnOfANewD]

And if his performance against the Giants is what we can expect from him in big games, we made a mistake signing him long term and he needs to step up.

I don't know, but I don't think you should write him off after a bad game or two. I think he knows he needs to make amends and that he'll work hard this offseason to improve.

Outside of Roy Williams, there will not be the opportunity to add a starting talent in free agency.

What about Bryant Johnson? Circumstances and not talent dictated that he was a #3 WR in ARI. I think he burns for a chance to start after being stuck behind Boldin and Fitzgerald. He certainly seems to have the stuff to be a #2: big, decent if not spectacular speed, hard to bring down, decent blocker, etc.

Justin Gage had a breakout year for TEN. He doesn't have the greatest speed, but he's huge, has good hands, is athletic, strong, and a good blocker. He might make a nice #2.

 

[Alexander]

What about Bryant Johnson? Circumstances and not talent dictated that he was a #3 WR in ARI. I think he burns for a chance to start after being stuck behind Boldin and Fitzgerald. He certainly seems to have the stuff do be a #2: big, decent if not spectacular speed, hard to bring down, decent blocker, etc.

Justin Gage had a breakout year for TEN. He doesn't have the greatest speed, but he's huge, has good hands, athletic, strong, good blocker, he might make a nice #2.

Both had very average to nonexistent careers yet "suddenly" they "emerged" in what just happened to be their contract season. Amazing coincidence.

That should be a red flag to anyone with any common sense.

Free agency isn't going to bring us anyone better than what we have in Crayton if you are honest with the evaluation of the available talent.

 

[arglebargle]

Look to New England for what a good QB and pass blocking line combined with four high to good quality WRs can do. So adding a couple of guys could really help.

 

[DawnOfANewD]

Both had very average to nonexistent careers yet "suddenly" they "emerged" in what just happened to be their contract season.

Actually Johnson had a far better '06 than '07. Gage you're right about though.

 

[Woods]

I think DJ Hackett of Sea is another interesing prospect. He's been in the NFL for about 3 years, so he should now be ready to assert himself.

The knock on him has been his injuries this year. But the injuries haven't been significant as far as I know.

He's got good speed and he's young with upside.

 

[Alexander]

Look to New England for what a good QB and pass blocking line combined with four high to good quality WRs can do. So adding a couple of guys could really help.

I can think of something even easier. Look at our offense without a healthy Owens to see why we need new talent.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Yes.

If Roy is brought in to replace Glenn, what happens if TO gets hurt again?

 

[Vintage]

Yes.

If Roy is brought in to replace Glenn, what happens if TO gets hurt again?

Well, let's pretend by some miracle we landed Roy Williams....

And then your scenario plays out (Owens gets hurt).

We'd be left with Williams, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback.

Which would be pretty similar to what we had this year with Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback.

Obviously, you'd hope that Stanback could make some contribution next year..... but its not too different than what we had last year.

I'd still draft another WR (like Dexter Jackson, for example....a quick WR). But we'd be ok even if Owens got hurt.

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That being said, we should draft a WR early. Because Roy Williams won't be in Dallas next year. And we do need to groom someone in the near, near future....

 

[arglebargle]

I can think of something even easier. Look at our offense without a healthy Owens to see why we need new talent.

Of course if you have a gaggle of good WRs, losing one isn't so harmful. But TO was, by far, our best, as that injury just spotlighted. We'd already lost Glenn, and I agree that he can't be considered longterm. I was pretty sure that we weren't going to see much from him this year. Can't be counted on for anything there in the future either.

While Hurd and Austin can help on special teams and as backups, they would have to elevate their game to surprising levels to be starters. Stanback is an unknown. Thanks, coaches. But I agree that in two or three years, the Cowboys will be needing some serious WR starters. Makes the Roy Williams move sound more and more like a good deal.

 

[Alexander]

Well, let's pretend by some miracle we landed Roy Williams....

And then your scenario plays out (Owens gets hurt).

We'd be left with Williams, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback.

Which would be pretty similar to what we had this year with Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback.

Obviously, you'd hope that Stanback could make some contribution next year..... but its not too different than what we had last year.

I'd still draft another WR (like Dexter Jackson, for example....a quick WR). But we'd be ok even if Owens got hurt.

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That being said, we should draft a WR early. Because Roy Williams won't be in Dallas next year. And we do need to groom someone in the near, near future....

Mister arglebargle had a valid point.

This offense is capable of moving the chains with just average WRs because Romo is accurate enough when his head is right.

Much like Brady's Patriots in 2006, it could be okay with average talent. Add a talent like Moss along with Welker, it became unstoppable.

But you will not see Romo with gaudy numbers and the offense is not explosive without a big play receiver to open things up and above all, actually make a big play. That's where Owens comes in. We need an elite WR or we can spin our wheels. It is just that simple.

 

[Vintage]

Mister arglebargle had a valid point.

This offense is capable of moving the chains with just average WRs because Romo is accurate enough when his head is right.

Much like Brady's Patriots in 2006, it could be okay with average talent. Add a talent like Moss along with Welker, it became unstoppable.

But you will not see Romo with gaudy numbers and the offense is not explosive without a big play receiver to open things up and above all, actually make a big play. That's where Owens comes in. We need an elite WR or we can spin our wheels. It is just that simple.

I know. My post wasn't disagreeing with that. I was just stating that if we did land Roy Williams, we wouldn't necessarily have to draft another WR (although, I still would like to see us draft a small, quick type WR a la Dexter Jackson).

We put up pretty impressive numbers with Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin as our WRs.....

Even if Owens got hurt..... Roy Williams with that mix should be able to do similar things..... And a healthy Roy + Owens....I'd expect the stars and the moon....