How much dead cap money comes off the books next year?

FuzzyLumpkins

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Will it create enough cap space to be able to resign Murray, Ro McClain, Carter and Dez if the team wants to?

All of the dead money come off that year. That is how it works. The June cuts are not accounted until following year but they always fall off after next year.

So that $17m -or whatever it was that everyone was wringing their hands over and talking about cap problems in perpetuity- is completely gone.
 

Vinnie2u

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Jerry, please stop restructuring the contract of Tony Romo...
 

lostar2009

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@AbeBeta is correct in that a team is operating at a disadvantage if they don't push money forward.

If 2 competing businesses were basically equal, but one had access to bank loans and the other didn't, the one with access to the loans would have an advantage. Obviously that advantage could be negated if the business with access to loans had an incompetent management team, but if the management teams are similar, then the one with access to loans has an advantage.

You are right but we restructure guys every year, wat too many guys.
 

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The Brandon Weeden Era scares me.

Don't expect much from Weeden, when the Romo era stops, this team will focus on running the ball and having a stout defense. I'm not looking forward to the end of Romo, and I think he was wasted here, but this team will bounce back pretty quickly.
 

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You are right but we restructure guys every year, wat too many guys.

Most of those restructures are ones where we wrote the contract specifically to restructure in year 2 and 3 to allow us to spread money to year 6 and 7 of the deal
 

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Cowboys should give him 10-12 million and tell him to take or leave it. No one is going to give a 35 old QB with bad back anything close to that and Romo knows it and Cowboys know it.
 

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I will. Because I can tell you money isn't everything and there are some things it can't buy. If I've already earned as much as he has at this point in my career I would.

When I say reduce, I'm not saying eliminating the majority of that 27 mil, I would agree to reduce it down to 17-20 million dollar range. That 7-10 can give us two additions on defense.

I agree and if by doing this the miracle of all miracles occurred and this enabled the team to win a Super Bowl, his life time earning power going forward would exceed what he gave up because of the tremendous boost to his image and having a Super Bowl win on his resume.

Of course if it didn't work, he might look like a chump but after taxes, the net loss wouldn't effect his life in any significant way going forward. He'd still get an image boost for his selfless action despite it not working.

Of course this is all just my humble opinion for the sake of an interesting conversation
 

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yimyammer

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The franchise numbers for a running back this year is $9.54 million. Franchising Murrey next year would eat up a lot of cap.

I think if you're gonna franchise a player, Dez is your man. IIRC, the hit might be 12 million but would be less than having to pay him Megatron like numbers and give you flexibility going forward
 

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If that were the case, Romo would not have signed that future crippling contract. But he was more than happy to sign on the dotted line.

Unbelievable? Wait....maybe not, not in this place.

You would have signed that contract too and if you say you wouldn't you'd be a lier. Honest to God you and the other ten per centers deserve C.J. Manuel. First round pick that's going to save the franchise, the next Cam Newton, and he's terrible and he proved it again today and Kyle Orton, nothing more than a back up is going to replace him and Buffalo is doomed for another 3-5 years. He just doesn't have it, you can tell by watching him. He doesn't recognize coverages and he has terrible field awareness.

Well that's just the kind of draft pick we would've made too if we weren't in the Romo era and today you'd be clamoring for - wait of it - Brandon Weedon to replace him. Demarco Murray could be the next Emmitt Smith and it wouldn't matter. The defense could miraculously turnaround and it wouldn't matter. Dan Bailey wouldn't matter because like Manuel, if we had the ball with 1:45 to go and needed to go 45 yards to win we would have zero chance - none.

If you don't want to hang on to Romo for as long as you can than you and this franchise are just as doomed as Buffalo unless we get awful lucky.

I'd be for awful lucky but hope is not a strategy.
 

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Unbelievable? Wait....maybe not, not in this place.

You would have signed that contract too and if you say you wouldn't you'd be a lier. Honest to God you and the other ten per centers deserve C.J. Manuel. First round pick that's going to save the franchise, the next Cam Newton, and he's terrible and he proved it again today and Kyle Orton, nothing more than a back up is going to replace him and Buffalo is doomed for another 3-5 years. He just doesn't have it, you can tell by watching him. He doesn't recognize coverages and he has terrible field awareness.

Well that's just the kind of draft pick we would've made too if we weren't in the Romo era and today you'd be clamoring for - wait of it - Brandon Weedon to replace him. Demarco Murray could be the next Emmitt Smith and it wouldn't matter. The defense could miraculously turnaround and it wouldn't matter. Dan Bailey wouldn't matter because like Manuel, if we had the ball with 1:45 to go and needed to go 45 yards to win we would have zero chance - none.

If you don't want to hang on to Romo for as long as you can than you and this franchise are just as doomed as Buffalo unless we get awful lucky.

I'd be for awful lucky but hope is not a strategy.

My statement was in reply to someone saying that players should take less money "for the sake of the team". If that were the case, then Tony wouldn't have signed that contract.

Funny how we worry about being a doomed franchise like Buffalo ... not to wake you guys up, but we haven't been much better than Buffalo over the past 18 years.
 

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Unbelievable? Wait....maybe not, not in this place.

You would have signed that contract too and if you say you wouldn't you'd be a lier. Honest to God you and the other ten per centers deserve C.J. Manuel. First round pick that's going to save the franchise, the next Cam Newton, and he's terrible and he proved it again today and Kyle Orton, nothing more than a back up is going to replace him and Buffalo is doomed for another 3-5 years. He just doesn't have it, you can tell by watching him. He doesn't recognize coverages and he has terrible field awareness.

Well that's just the kind of draft pick we would've made too if we weren't in the Romo era and today you'd be clamoring for - wait of it - Brandon Weedon to replace him. Demarco Murray could be the next Emmitt Smith and it wouldn't matter. The defense could miraculously turnaround and it wouldn't matter. Dan Bailey wouldn't matter because like Manuel, if we had the ball with 1:45 to go and needed to go 45 yards to win we would have zero chance - none.

If you don't want to hang on to Romo for as long as you can than you and this franchise are just as doomed as Buffalo unless we get awful lucky.

I'd be for awful lucky but hope is not a strategy.

EJ Manuel in this offense would totally ball out, you have no clue about QB skill if that's your assessment. And his WR was mugged on that last pick, sometimes you get the flag, sometimes the refs want to go home, such is life...
 
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