How much of the noise was the crowd vs the stadium?

[WV Cowboy]

I have nothing aginst being aggressive but over doing it to the point where you hurt the team more than help it is foolish. If I'm outside of FG range on 4th down then I want to pin the other team by their goal line and allow my defense to make the big play than to risk a 4th down and end up giving the ball up with great field position.

I think there are times to be aggressive and times you are better served by being smart and putting the pressure on the other team to overcome poor field position.

That's where coaching comes into play. The coach has to decide the odds of success, and if it is worth it to try and surprise the other team.

If you surprise the other team and succeed, you not only keep the ball, but you do something to their confidence, their swagger.

Plus you take the crowd out of the game, ... OH ! wouldn't that have been a good thing to happen.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Home Field advantage matters to a certain degree but I don't think a case can be made that the Cowboys lost to the Vikings because of the crowd.

There is too much evidence that supports that the Vikings (in particular the Defensive Line) simply were better prepared, wanted it more and were just plain better.

I don't know, I thought we came out focused, determined, .. we wanted it.

We moved the ball against them.

But falling behind, to that defense, in that environment, with that crowd, .. IMO did play a part in the outcome of the game.

Once we fell behind, they had us right where they wanted us. Our offense was at an extreme disadvantage because of the conditions that I described above.

They won all 9 games there this season for a reason.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's where coaching comes into play. The coach has to decide the odds of success, and if it is worth it to try and surprise the other team.

If you surprise the other team and succeed, you not only keep the ball, but you do something to their confidence, their swagger.

Plus you take the crowd out of the game, ... OH ! wouldn't that have been a good thing to happen.

Stop patting yourself on the back. :laugh2:

Yes going for it can be great and yet it can backfire I have seen great successful coaches loose because they took too many chances. If you do it all the time you are not surprising anyone.

Dallas attempting the FG in my view was not a bad call at that stage of the game. As I said had they choose to go for it make it or not I would not have argued the call but that call as well comes with a downside, you get stopped on 4th and 1 the swagger and confidence goes to the other team

 

[silverblue]

I thought the refs could give a penalty if the crowd was too loud and making communication impossible

 

[HanD]

I thought the refs could give a penalty if the crowd was too loud and making communication impossible

i remember refs used to do that...QBs would walk up to the line, not be able to hear and walk back to the ump. it's been a while since i've seen it happen like that again though. don't know what the official rule is.

 

[silverblue]

I would be willing to bet they were amplifying the crowd noise, too.

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought the refs could give a penalty if the crowd was too loud and making communication impossible

Much like many rules it seems they are put in place 1 year enforced for a couple then fade away. You are right they had a rule about excessive noise a while back yet I have not seen that enforced in years. Only think close to that is a team being flagged due to fans throwing things on the field and that is ever rare

 

[klee34]

That was always a stupid rule anyway. Fans pay astronomical prices for a ticket and playing at home is supposed to mean something. Too many pro crowds are too laid back to begin with. Fans should be able to get as loud as they want as long as the noise is coming from their own lungs. I tip my hat to the Vikings fans and I suspect the Saint fans will be loud this weekend.

I have complained the lack of noise when we were at Texas Stadium and now at the new stadium many times, to mixed responses. We simply need to be louder than we have been and make our stadium a difficult place for opposing teams to come. We have some great fans and a large fanbase but we just have never been that loud compared to other places. Actually the loudest the stadium was all season was when the roof was opened and we had over 100,000 fans. I wish the roof would remain home all the time and we would pack it in.

I think we need to work on setting some traditions at the new stadium, maybe a crowd cheer, or even a team band. I know some of you are going to complain that's college stuff, but they do a little bit of that with the Commanders and the Ravens. We need something unique and something to fire a crowd up. Heck, we need someone like Rowdy Ray used to provide for us, or the gentlemen at the Jets games (his name escapes me). One of the new things that is starting to happen at stadiums is the crowd to yell "first down" when their team makes a first down, we can't even seem to manage that. Don't get me wrong, I love the Cowboys and I am not trying to be overly critical, but I think we should commend the teams like the Vikings and Saints that actually seem to have a true homefield advantage. We don't have that.

It isn't just us, the Detriot Lions were always a heck of a lot tougher when they used to play outdoors many years ago and with the exception of a few seasons such as this one, the Vikings were extremely tough to beat when they played outdoors.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Falling behind, in that stadium, against that defense is why we looked like we did, and why they won 9 games there this season.

If we could have scored early and got ahead, it may have ended totally different. Like we did in N.O.

Romo said he couldn't audible the play, he couldn't alter the snap count, our own lineman had to wait for the ball to move because they couldn't hear.

That gave their defense a HUGE advantage. There were times they got off the ball quicker than our OL did.

I would have loved to play them in Dallas. Away from that dome, they were very beatable.

There is no MAY have ended differently. We temporarily took the crowd out of it early on after Dware's sack. We scored first in every game from NO up to the Minn game.

We then made mistakes and failed to execute resulting in the 4th and 1 and missed FG.

Ballgame.

 

[NextGenBoys]

One more thing.

All this Wade extension talk and no one has mentioned how the defense gave up consecutive TD's including a four play drive to put us down 7-0 early.

I havent said much regarding the playoff loss, but it just seems that with this team, when we lose, it's because every single unit of the team plays terribly. I think Minn was the better team anyway, but offense, defense, and special teams all played poorly.

Thats so frustrating. We can overcome days when we have one unit playing poorly. I dont know the equation but this team really needs to become more consistant. That should be their number one goal. Maintain consistancy.

Because when this team is on, we all saw what happened. However it doesnt mean anything if you can't continue your level of play.